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Part of the problem here is UltimateGentleman thinking he speaks for silent majority. Another part of the problem is, he has zero knowledge of Mod. That mod that made DayZ huge success and paved road for Standalone to be success as well. When we count in that he is young player (20) and probably did not have chance to play anything then casual games, it is not hard to see, why veteran players can have problems with his reasoning. But I agree that debate should be more civil. Still I can understand that many Jimmies were rustled by his clueless opinions. It reminds me of some of my discussions with my 3 year old son. Those also often do not lead to conclusion based on reason. That made me seriously laugh. It somehow reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmDr54sfO8I

I think some of these dudes are just lost. It might be first time they play a game, which does not strive to hold their hand all the time. For those, the very idea of having like 10 different calibers in total, is simply too much. I guess I can understand them. What I don't, is when Devs are trying to appease them, more so, when they already sold over 2 mil copies and the number is still rising.

I have to thank you, this is very nice present for my today's birthday. I've though that this fine hunting rifle needs to be first added in surely more common 7.62x39 then 5.56, which feeds helicrash M4. Also very nice change. Maybe pistol ammo, specificaly 9mm, will get it's damage slightly buffed? If average survivor can keep on living even after getting shot to the body more then 10 times, it is making some pistols kinda meh. Overal it is nice to see you guys reconsider some stuff. Maybe, one day, you will give us AK74 in 5,45x39 ^_^

True and true. We now have folks that will argue to death, that SA does have nothing in common with Mod, which is pure madness. Plus it would be tremendous pitty and wasted chance, if SA sunk into mediocrity and catering to mythical casual Joe. It was also mentioend several times, that many casuals enjoyed mod, they have been able to adjust and in the end enjoy more demanding game. And why not? Whoever wants to play casual game, they can play WarZ (infestation stories), Nether, they will soon get H1Z1 and tons more. I know that even DayZ mod did "casual" stuff like carrying motors in backpack and stuff like that. Still, there is no need to introduce more of such "crutches". I'd say that Devs should even remove some from Standalone, certainly not add new ones. WHY, I ask, should DayZ Standalone waste the chance to be unique, same as mod was, and steer closer to above mentioned casual friendly games?

I guess that we can agree atleast to certain degree. Few more calibers would not hurt the game, would be realistic and would allow for certain calibers to be more rare. But please no blasphemy like AK in 5.56 caliber. I might be overemotive on this, but I would hate that to happen. I know it exists but come on...in post soviet country (even if fictional) ? Unless you provide some hard number, you seem to be member of even smaller minority. If you dislike realistic games I assure you, you can have your fun elsewhere. DayZ SA does not need to be ruined nor needlessly streamlined to be success! Which it already kinda has been btw.

I don't see how rare occurance of say Cz 527 or Mosin in deer stand, would be a bad thing. Not saying you should get it from there all the time, I'd like crossbows and arrows more often, but every now and then finding hunting rifle on deer stand would be a good thing (imo).

I think that most people would not be against attachments affecting recoil and sway. What is troublesome is random dispersion, that has to be tamed by MP handguard or such.

Really? With team that has supposedly over 160 memebers now, you would advocate saving some time on this particular issue? Also you must know, that lots of stuff is a placeholder, so they could polish it later without problems. Lastly, if the time was the only issue, they could have stated this! But have they? Nope, they just mentioned something about casual players possibly being confused or something like that. Antigame much? But no worries, I understand you don't care about realistic calibers, I really get it. Thing is that I, and obviously some others too, care.

That extra work of creating 2-3 new ammo boxes and bullet models is what? An hour or two? And yes, current loot system is broken, loot appears only at server restart, but that is to be changed in nearish future. I mean I would be all happy, if devs said something like "no new calibers, until loot spawning is fixed". Have they said anything like that? Nope, they advocate caliber streamlining instead, which is making some folks unhappy, hence they voice their concerns on forums. I might have misunderstood something in your post, but it appears to me, that you are contradicting yourself. You do not want more calibers, you are for streamlining of it, yet you want sniper ammo to be more rare. Why not make 7.62x54 for common guns (Mosin for example) and keep 7.62x51 for those sniper rifles and higher tier loot? It would be both realistic in terms what gun uses what and also allow for rare weapon to have rare ammo. You can read what Katana67 wrote several times. He is far from fan of absolute realism, but he sees, that alteast from gameplay perspective, more calibers are good thing as they help to make usage or rare guns harder. What is the point of making certain gun rare, when the ammo for it is everywhere?

Ah compensator...kinda did not expect that one. If only those attachments did not do that much, it would be lot better. I hope, that devs already got the message, that attachments with +30 accuracy are not praised by whole dayz community.

Found mine in police station, luckily enough 15rnd mag was in next room :-). I guess the 30rnd mags will be more rare, not sure if spawning only in tents. Anyway it is nice to see that police loot is slowly being build. I already consider CZ75 as fitting into police loot, now we have MP5, I guess tha RAK smg will also fit there and pump action shotgun should be also on its way and might fit police loot as well. Now plase move Sporter exlusively into civilian loot table and also it's mags as well! I can't wait for the time, when loot tables will be properly "fat" and more distinctive between each other (so no Sporters in jail buildings, no sporter mags in tents etc).

What attachment did you mean? I did not except cz 527 to have many attachments except optics, magazine and bipod.

Dude you played the game as it should be! No crazy running while rumaging through backpack! I wish only stuff in jacket,tac vest and pants could be put on hotbar and accessed while running. Stuff in backpack should be accessible only via inventory screen (tab), but that should make your dude crouch and stop.

I hope they up the damage of certain calibers. It is crazy, if we need to dump 1-2 9mm mags into someone to waste him. Pistols shouldnt be crazy weak, their main issue should be just low range. I hate back in the mod, when I had Bison, that thing needed like 30 hits to kill anybody, so I hope SMG's in SA arent that bad.

I was hoping there is. There could be also double magazine, although it should only allow for faster reload and not count as 60 bullet mag. I would be happy with 2x3 (horizontaly placed ofc).

Yeah damn, 4x3 :). Luckily picture tells that good enough. I found one 15rnd one.

Ok just found this little baby on exp minute ago, luckily with 15round mag as well. I think MP5 fits greatly into police loot along with CZ75. Hopefully we will get AK74 and that pump action shotgun, all of these would imo fit into police loot greatly. MP5 http://i.imgur.com/BWkKNdM.jpg down the sights http://i.imgur.com/YWkxJpF.jpg It fits the backpack! 3x3 spaces http://i.imgur.com/lygPUXS.png Will have to search NWA for some red dot for this baby, hopefully I can also find bigger mag then 15rnd one I have. If only 9mm would not be so weak, this could be perfect backup for Mosin "snipers".

I wonder how rare MP5 mags are gonna be and if you can stash it in backpack (I hope so). Also hoping that it does not take whole mp5 mag into body, to kill a person.

Wonder why there is no Kobra sights for AK's? Granted it was used more on AK74, which we still don't have, but still....

Why not search for sticks/kindling in forests? All you need to do is just look at the forest floor and you should get the option. Or chop down bush, yields sticks as well.

New island would be cool. What would be the best location though? Somewhere south-west and far away from coast? Hope devs add rowboats or some fishing boats etc. I would not say Devs destroyed north at all. Having said that, it is true that we might already have enough town and villages there as it is. Still I wish they could expand the map further north and make it bigger. Maybe make it so it's heavily forested, with some valleys, with small villages or bases now and then, but not close to each other. Regarding military installations, I just don't want to see any new added anywhere near spawning areas. I also think, that we already have kinda too many barracks as it is, but maybe they will introduce some unique NATO base, only one on the whole map, that will be the place to go for the best gear, same as barracks were in the mod.

Well if all you need to do, after you find M4, is to make 1 trip to barracks to get magazine and then you are free to roam anywhere while getting ammo restocked from civilian buildings, that does not seem right to me. If 5,45x39 was introduced, that would be the round + 7,62x39, that I would expect to be more common in civilian buildings. 5,56 I feel should be rare in civilian areas, but I guess Devs don't want this, when they are adding CZ rifle in 5.56 caliber. So yeah, I guess it will be more like you say, still I don't like that idea much.

I get it, every place with barracks and jailbuilding is dangerous. Even places around police stations tend to be risky. I'm just saying that it's been quite some time, since I roamed south-west for some reason. Will have to rectify that :).

Well you just mentioned two places I try to steer clear off :). I roam anywhere between Novodmitrovsk and North West Airfield. Haven't ventured to Zelenogorsk or those South-western parts of map for quite some time though.

That would make 5.56 civilian weapons feasible. On the other hand, it would allow for frequent usage of NATO weapons, which I am not sure I like. I mean, from gameplay perspective, I'm more confident with 5.56 spawning in barracks and helicrashes, than in civilian loot spawns. Maybe if it was more rare, it would be ok, we'll see.