Avant-Garde

Once I thought that having something like Silent Hill have, would be good for this game. Like when you encounter wierd shit in SH, the ambient sound changes to really scarry and disturbing "music" like this: Or sometimes like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4M0ujNfkJ8#t=11 In DayZ it could be used like when zombies start to attack you, or in moments of general "panic", a dynamic soundtrack to add in the atmosphere. Nothing loud that would bother gameplay, I think that it should be the optional "music" in the game. Silent Hill 1,2 and 3 were games that had great atmosphere (and creepy as hell) created by sound effects. It would be cool to get in a big city, close to the hospital at a rainy night, all steath because lots of zombies and something like this kicks in: (btw this whole ost is worth checking out, its this video link) The horror side of this game could drink on these sources maybe

I like your ways. You are a good man, don't worry.

So what is your guys opinion over all this? Do you think it would be nice or bad, or even do you think it is necessary an overhaul? I mean, this is a core gameplay mechanic and Imo it is really bad, let us discuss this further!

Oh I understand now, sorry. I thought we were going to start a discussion about which game is better or more complex lol. The blocking in Chivalry works the same way, you gotta look at the direction of the incoming attack and press rmb, so if its an overhead you gotta look up and parry. You can't hold your defense up unless with a shield, so you have to time your parries. I think that Chivalry's mechanic is closer to what we have in DayZ.

Let the images talk for themselfs: But this is getting off topic man, create a thread about it and we can discuss. Fact is, melee in DayZ is shit tier and we need something better imo.

I would love medieval gear, it would be my main mission in dayz to find them all and become a medieval bandit and say lines from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. TIS BUT A SCRATCH

Once I was fully geared, akm with drum mag and all that roaming through Berezino when a almost fresh-respawn gets me with my pants down and hits me in the leg with a Blaze rifle, I proceed to fix my broken leg and then charge in his direction unloading the akm and screaming like a crazy. Dude starts to say on mic "OH MAN PLEASE GO AWAY PLEASE IM SORRY". Yeah, I'm sorry too AHAHHAHAHhahHAhaH, I love drum mags

A big part of the fun is to fake being a hero and backstabbing people for their goods lol. The game would lose depth if something like this is added and the risk of forcing a gameplay style over another is kinda bad imo. I mean, I would not like to be a bandit if people would KoS me without thinking twice. And, if you could see your friends through walls it would be harder to ambush or outplay you and your friends since you would be far more coordinated and with almost zero risk of friendly fire.

Best multiplayer competitive experience I had since Quake 3 and CS 1.6 man, its a really inovative and funny game, totally worthy. I have now like more then 1000 hours in that shit, lol. Plus, its a really good example of a deep melee mechanics. DayZ already has that basic principle of the animation dealing the damage (diferent from TF2 melee, or the CS knife where it is like a zero range firearm with a knife/whatever skin). I belive its best to show you then try to explain with a bad writen text in broken english lol. Take a look man: At the end of the vid he talks a bit over the real time strike system. It is beautifull ingame man, it makes things a lot deeper and complex. This series of videos this dude makes is great to see this game's melee mechanics, I can only dream with such mechanics in DayZ lol.

Yes, what you said sounds like "go ahead and play like a noob if you want to". You are judging my ways man, that means somehow you think that what I do is wrong/stupid oposed to what you do. You sugest me to stop being a noob. Just read all your posts since the first one you've made in this thread. You think that people who tortures in DayZ have personality issues, whitch is really wrong and is why I am debating with you. it can be a funny experience for both players involved and the game would be even better if it allowed us more ways to torture, since this concept and mechanic is already ingame. I said you seems to be mad because your posts sounds a bit agressive man, thats it.

True that, and I notice that they go through walls more often then the normal zombies too. Theese dudes are really scarry lol. I would love a melee mechanics that would be something like a simplifield Chivalry: Medieval Warfare thing. I mean, it is really realistic and would add a lot of depth to this game

Hmm let me quote if for you Also I'm not ofended, but you seems to be mad and I don't know why. Anyways, you can have my beans sir.

Yes my friend, Chernarus needs a better kind of bandits than usual KoS snipers Yes but what is the point of this claim? Are you insinuating that someone here has pre-existing anti-social tendencies? How do you know that? If you just kill people without torturing them you could unleash the psycopath inside of you the same way. In the 90's people would say that Doom did this to people lol.

Great disembowel tool YESAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHhhah we need this

I would say it is quite broken. More than half of your hits will not register when you clearly hit, so it is a pretty artificial dificulty that we have now.

You understood me wrong my friend, I don't torture for the fun of simply torturing. During the process you talk to your victim, make jokes and whatnot. Have you watched the video I posted? It's a fine example. My life is pretty good, thanks. Wow you are such a DayZ pro man 10/10 would totally KoS you too. I don't want their gear, I don't even want them dead. What I want is to create possible funny moments like that vid I posted up there. This game is great because the relations you can create betwen players. So you enjoy killing and getting their gear, cool. I like to break their legs, knock them unconscious and say wierd shit while they have a burlap sac in their head. I don't even have to kill the man, just steal his things and leave them with a wierd taste in their mouth lol. Why are your playstile superior then mine? You say you don't want people to play like you, but in fact you do man. I choose to go diferent and you rotulate me as a noob lol. "If you're the victor in a hostile situation then you win. You get their gear. They get to die. Anything else is pointless beyond that." YEAH no fun allowed, again.

... Dude, it's just fun you know. Interact with other people and "role play", but I understand, you want your good old cowadoody relations. Id rather that this: Happens to me then a KoS. Btw, I belive this dude is NUTS isn't he? Omg he might just get a gun and go on a killing spree because he role plays a psycopath in VIDEOGAMES. Oh and also, who am I hurting when I torture someone in DayZ? Ok then we should all play the way YOU like it, I understood. I like to create a relationship with the person I'm killing in this game you know, it is usually much more fun then snipe people from miles away and leave them clueless about wtf just happened. Torture in this game is for FUN, didn't you know that killing virtual shit is fun? Just look at videogames, the great majority is about killing something. So I bet you are a bullyed sociopath too, right, since you've been "killing" and giving a painfull death to a lot of things during your lifetime right. Thats like heavy duty hypocrisy. Seriously, drop this pseudo-psychology bullshit because you are doing it really wrong.

Dude you are my hero. This topic should get more attention Imo, since melee in this game is so bad. The Elder Scrolls melee sucks just like DayZ's, Chivalry its the best example there is about melee, seriously, if you guys don't know it go look for it. It is really worthy

If inside somewere, I would get the halberd in my hands. In a corridor I have the advantage because of the long range stab, just poke them in the brain lol. I mean, I would avoid at all costs geting closer to something that might infect me with its touch, a katana would be shit in this sense because you are at facehug range, there would be zombie blood all over you and the risk of contamination would be high! Plus, if a horde is running after you, chances are you are dead either with a katana, halberd or even with a firearm. So I still prefer the halberd due its long range, even better for steath killing zombies and it would be scarry to be chased by a crazy man with a huge polearm, so bonus points for that.

A Halberd weights 2-3 kilograms, has that badass axe-hook-spear thing and you could keep them zombies far away due its lovely range! Its a win-win maine, halberd in dayz is a must"!!1 lol EDIT: oh man I had the wrong links in my first post, now it is corrected

Katana? Such a pansie weapon. I'd rather have this http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/15911/15828518_1.jpg?v=8CFF42A9710E580 or even this http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/images/Product/large/XD637.png As a rare item and best melee weapon. But craftable spears would also be nice.

I desagree, I belive there is still A LOT of work to do in this game melee mechanics. Like the only "good" (that means not total shit) animations are the axes swings, that is what makes them good to use since this game has sort of a dynamic attacks in melee (you hit with the weapon animation, not your crosshair). They NEED to improve every melee animation to be at least as usefull as the axes are. Have you tried the Pitchfork? It has the worse animations I have seen in a game, you simply have no clue over when or where that shit will hit, its guesswork and lmb spam at its best. Its so bad its not even funny man. And if you think about it, a pitchfork would be far better than an axe, due its stabbing range but not in DayZ because shit animations. Also it lacks depth. Compare the melee mechanics with the shooting mechanics. Then look at what games like Chivalry: Medieval Warfare are doing about melee. At the moment, it looks like a placeholder, really. It can improve so much and has a lot of potential.

Well imo they should refine the animations and invest in real time swings. The only weapons that doesn't have shit animations are the axes, thats why people prefer them. Have you tryed the pitchfork? Idk why they even added that weapon, never seen such a bad animation that leaves you clueless about where and when it will hit the target. It should just give a long stab, but it has that wierd as hell animation that sucks so hard. Same with bats, knifes, fists (its just easy to land hits because its like a machine gun, you just aim at your target's general direction lol) and everything that doesn't have that axe swing animation. They need to be MUCH more fluid. Then, I belive it would be nice to be able to block or parry incoming melee strikes. I mean, the ranged combat is really deep and complex, they should invest in melee to. Would be really fun to have a simplifield Chivalry: Medieval Warfare mechanics.

Melee in this game indeed sucks very much. Need TONS of work to be even just bad, now I prefer to think it doesn't even exist and what we have is just a placeholder. Look at Chivalry:Medieval Warfare melee mechanics, we need a tracer system in this game.

AHahahhahah drugs in this game would be epic, the possibilities are incommensurable