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What should be rare, instead, is fuel. Player should forage for fuel and defend fuel source more than anything if they want to use their vehicles. No, Im not trying to turn DAYZ into madmax, far from it, Im just trying to promote another kind of attitude toward vehicules. Instead of hoarding and hidding them in the most unreachable place, I want the players to make their camp somewhat close to gas source. Also, it would create conflict and player interactions. I just want to keep the experiment going, and be as close as reality as possible. As a bonus suggestion, there could even be some military vehicules laying around requiring diesel and helicopter should require jet fuel which would be even more rare. Now, not only do you need to repair the vehicules, but you need to hunt and fight for fuel. EDIT as of 5 august 2012. So far from the majority of people in thread we agree on; 1: Fuel sources should be fewer. 2: Jerry cans should be more rare. 3: Jerry cans should be empty when first picked up. 4: Vehicules need to be more comun. 5: Vehicules need to be tougher. 6: Vehicules shouldn't explode unless explosive are used on them. 7: Vehicules should have less storing space. 8: Parts should be more rare.

Valid point, but its completly subjective. From a role play point of view we could find many reasons as to why cars are that rare and vice versa. Just look at the amount of wrecks for exemple. But anyway, concerning gameplay, I believe it would improve it and change the bad rhythm that we have right now. The game is getting stale. The experiment is not going foward, rocket add trivial stuff that doesn't change much or doesn't bring much to the game. I know cheaters are ramptant, and that need fixing, but the game itself needs something more.

What about some of you dont just read the original post but the rest as well? thank you.

It never occured to you guys that before repairing said vehicule another player dropped his gear in it to make space so he could go find vehicules parts? If he left his stuff there, died trying to get parts or simply logged off forgeting he left his stuff in that wreck is still unknown.

Why do you think they stash them? Because they are rare indeed. How can you say that the civilian ural is not rare, when there is only one on the entire map? How can you say that atvs aren't rare when they are at most 6 of them on the whole map at any time? The most helicopter I have seen at any given time on a single server is 2. Of course people hide them, they have tons of inventory space and they are not many of them. If cars were all over the place, people would still hid their car, but other people without car wouldn't have to go look in the wilderness to look for them, it is completly counter-intuitive. Now, those people who hid their car, they would still use others cars that are all over the place for transportation, as long as they have fuel, people will use them, they wont be scared of losing them, because they will be plentiful, unlike now. As of now, my group hide their vehicules in trees deep in the wilderness, we only take them out when we have enough people to watch over them or return fire incase we get attacked. How is that productive? Hell, today I found a civilian ural(guess where?) and after carefully hidding it, I just blew up all of his six tires and the engine after emptying the fuel tank. Now its one big container and nobody else will get to drive it, super fun, isn't it? (answer is no) Same reason why people steal your vehicule, because they are rare, and you use them as container.

Please dont share more videos, that was terrible, and you abused the grenade glitch. Just stop.

Definition of ambush? OP doesn't know it. But still, it wasn't THAT bad as a video. It was a chase, by the way.

I work during the week, sorry, could have helped today, tomorrow wont be possible for me. Good luck buddy!

I could help you, we got an atv which is pretty fast off road and if you give me your coordinate I can come to your position pretty fast.

I updated the OP with all the suggestion that improve that idea. 28 beans so far supporting that idea, keep them coming, we need this change. Thanks everybody for the support.

Rocket, see this thread concerning vehicules please. http://dayzmod.com/f...nu/page__st__40 Also, vehicules should never explode, this is not a Michel Bay movie, unless of course explosive are used. PS: Underground base are a shit idea, let us build surface base that actually make sense, such as barricading the warehouse with the blue doors or build wodden camps // sandbags camps. Anyway who in their right mind would dig underground in a zombie apocalypse will all the problem that building underground involve both engine wise and from a realistic stand point.

ALPHA, kid.

As it is, if a player want to use a car, he wont go look in a city, in a village, in a garage or even a barn. He will go look into the far edge of the map, in the north and the north west in the least plausible location for a vehicule to be. He wont wont have to repair it nor refuel it, it will be there, lying around some tents fully repaired and ready to go. That's in most case. Rocket want a good mix between reality and gameplay. From a realistic stand point, cars should be plentiful, thus making cars less precious and thus promoting player to use them. From a gameplay stand point, cars should be used instead of hidden and cars should be looked for in the revelant areas. In my scenario, players wouldn't mind losing the car, they would mind losing the fuel and their gear. The only reason they would go back into their hidding spot in the north with their vehicule is to go drop their gear into their tents. But you wouldn't care about their vehicule(of course you would care, but not about the vehicule itself, more about the gear lying around and in it) because you can find them all over the place, what you would care for, is the fuel, because that's what is hard to find. You would still get the same feeling when a car goes by you, you would still be in awe, because these guys driving that car actually managed to fully repair it and find enough fuel for it which would be pretty hard to do, unlike now. Why would you want to go hike in the woods for hours to find that one UAZ when there is one right there in the same city as you, and you have one full jerry can with you? I drove almost every vehicules in DAYZ, I dont have difficulty finding them, and thats completly irrevelant. What revelant is where I find them, and going into the deep wilderness to find a vehicule is just as dumb as hunting a deer in a city(this is not ''Im legend''). It doesn't make any sense, its counter intuitive, it transform an item that should be used as something that must be hidden. Instead, we get many cars but fewer replacement parts and rare fuel. If you want a vehicule, both the lonewolf and the organised group will actually hunt in the right places, for the right thing, and eventually achieve their goal. (For the record, me and my group drove; the ATV, bicycle, bus, gaz, van, skoda, tractor, UAZ, ural, V3S, huey, fishing boat, small boat, PBX.) As a bonus suggestion; Cars should NEVER explode, this is not a Michel Bay movie. I have no idea why BIS decided it was realistic for cars to explode because it is completly retarded and unrealistic. Cars could be broken beyond repair yes, but explode, never. Of course, if players use explosive on them thats completly different, but otherwise they should NEVER EVER explode for any reasons. That on guy with an anti-material rifle shouldn't blow up a car by shooting at the engine, it would simply stop working and slow down.

Indeed, both the sources and the jerry cans need to be cut down a lot for this to work. Of course, there should be more vehicules available all over the map following this change. Near roads, in parking lots,in cities, in traffic jam, in the wilderness and etc. Fixed, my bad. (speaking french and all)

ALPHA

Hello, my members are getting followed by hacker that they wasted on another server. We killed them as they drove their bus around, then teleported to us, killed us all with some kind of aimbot and left with the bus as soon as they respawned. That was on US 486 (quebec). Then we moved to US 106 and they followed us, they know the exact position of our camps for some reasons, and we have many camps. The name of one of them is ''Gwyvern''. He deserve some attention I believe. That being said, I will ask my members to post more informations and perhaps proofs of them hacking. Thank you. (I believe he is on US 106 right now)

Gwyvern is on US106 right now, could someone investigate please? thanks!

So, is it good enough or still ironing out major bugs?

Notice how that server is ''ALL FRIENDLY'' and then you said you shoot at people and stole their bus. Im not surprised that they did that after the event. What kind of moron make this kind of server anyway, 3/4 of the game is killing players and fearing players. Take that away and you have nothing but loot stock pilling and driving the shitiest of vehicules around for no particular reasons since players dont shoot each others. This kind of server shouldn't be allowed anyway, and that admin is pretty dumb indeed.

Its a huge ball of gray triangles isnt it? I dont know what to think of it either, I have seen it in place where it doesn't provide anything to anyone who would want to use it. Im more enclined to think its a glitch.

Bump for retaliation. >:(

Apreciate the tips Barron, but we figured the marker part a while ago. Still, thanks for trying to help. :3

Good tip I will tell my members to change their names. Thanks!

You can't as far as I know, so use the thermal during day time. Obviously a bug, nothing you can do about it, try another server. May be a hacker or a glitch involving damage coming from god knows where. Sorry about that.

Aldy, you might want to consider joining our group, we are like minded. Very nice pro play right there, I gave you my beans. Great fight all around and very good use of tactics such as supressing fire before heading out. See my signature and try to contact GDougie44, he will hook you up. Good luck!