Zombie Milkman

The thread title is satire, and I have no right as a newby noob to this game to weigh in on the hard work and suggestions of the gamers who have been providing feedback to help get this game off the ground, but after decades of playing countless fps titles, and having really been bitten by this game and its potential, I beg anyone in the community to resist turning this into BF4 zombie edition, or CODz, or any of the typical fps games out there with a zombie add on mod. IMO, to have a unique gem you have to set yourself apart, and in shooting for realism less is more in a world where everything is scavenged out before you even get there. I see many threads in here asking for so much that would steer this unique game towards the already done to death team deathmatch, with a zombie flavoring and piles of tech/weapons/etc., that even if you do get what you think you want, for the love of all that is holy please allow some of us the raw, poorly stocked, tiny variety hardcore survivalist game that this could be. I understand needing to cater to market demand (I want a .40 USP with laser sight, adjustable grips in 4 color choices, and an earth orbiting kinetic energy delivery system!!!!1!) but what are the odds you would find one, in good condition, in this area? .0001% Maybe? I hope I am not alone, and please don't take this as criticism of anyone wanting a mainstream fps like the rest of those other, similar, generic, dime a dozen games. I understand the alure. I'd just like an option that steers more towards realism.

Why get angry over any of it? I get a kick out of dieing in this game. In theory we are testing their product. I take liberties with that. I can honestly say I have thrown myself off all manner of peak, staris, window, rooftoop... just to see what would happen. I start again and see how long it takes me to reach certain milestones without heading immediately to the most obvious potential treasure caches. The cheaters will never get that joy. Instead when they get blown away by a better cheater (or some code) they get mad and frustrated that they have to spend 5 minutes cheating to get the batmobile with cruise missiles back. lol!

Man, you just made me smile. Less gear, more Zed. Please make this happen devs.

I agree, but what perks my interest more in hackers/cheaters of video games is it is just a game. Seriously, this is just a bunch of pixels activated eventually by code, some of it poorly written... And what do you get out of it? Enjoyment derived from cheating in a PC game, or any game that offers nothing in return... How low do you have to be to derive any form of pleasure from that? I wish I had a video of Will Farrel dressed like a ballerina skating around a half rink while holding a plastic cup from McDonalds wrapped in tinfoil over his head proclaiming himself the winner of the Stanley Cup. That is pretty much what every cheater in this alpha-test game is doing. How sad that they don't even realize it.

There is no reason why they can't cater to both. Uber Hardcore mode, and Monty Hall mode for the COD/BF4 crowd. It will be important though to make it impossible to hop between both kinds of servers. And I dare say anyone playing in Uber Hardcore mode who is cheating would stand out like a sore thumb. Our community would finger them quickly, but I doubt those who cheat would have any interest in a world that doesn't yield super munchkin hordes to begin with. For that reason alone I hope the devs have a choice between uber goody and uber hardcore modes.

When we log off, does our character remain where they are, accessible by everyone else on the server (or wandering zeds?) Thanks.

You two need to play a few games together. "Now go take his gear, I did the hard part." "I'm not lifting a finger. He was only saying high." "Yeah, I always say high with a .45." "It was only a .22, and it was pointed over your shoulder." "That happens to be where my head is located." "I'm too tired from lugging around all this food/water/medicine/pots/wrench/little chefs oven." "Well I'm too tired from lugging around the guns, blades, 22/45/357/9 and buck ammo." "How about we go hunt zombies?" "That's just crazy talk. We killed the last one on this server a month ago." "Go hunt bandits?" "Agreed."

In the same apt I fell through the last set of stairs on the first floor and wound up in a room that is normally inaccessible. My fix - laying flat and crawling through an impassible glass wall I can't escape through if crouched or standing. The second issue was descending the ladder from the roof. At the point you transition out of the elevator shaft I could not get out. I tried stepping over, toggling up down, crawling didn't work, etc. My fix - I turned around and backed out. It worked, but then the server crashed or whatever.

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+1. I've seen long term DZ players and noobs like me saying the same thing. This game needs a bunch more zombies. I ran through like 2 miles of fields by the coast and only 1 zombie chased me (the one I was running from, lol.) No other zombies joined her. It SHOULD have been a scene from the Benny Hill Show, Benny running at 5x film speed being chased by an ever growing number of angry people as he runs by them. In fact, I would love to see someone throw a clip like that together with the kazoo music, but you can't because this never happens for the obvious reason. All I can guess is that whetever engine they have for the zombies would kill the servers. 40 Players + 10,000 zombies + physics = 100 ping of disconnection.

That's fair, as long as the scarcity is kept up as well. What I find humorous is the number of people I bump into with all the best gear. Did you see the movie The Road? The dude had a fairly crappy revolver with 2 bullets left. At every second during the last half of the film you knew, you thought about how many bullets he had. If the hottest women in the world jumped out of the screen you would have been like, "Hey, that chick is smoking hot, and Viggo has exactly two bullets left in his rusty revolver that may not even work!" Even a rusty sharpened spoon becomes an ever present item in your very limited equipment bag in an environment like that. I am old school. I played Dungeons and Dragons, like 1981 advanced version, and there was a saying that came from that entire genre called "Monty Haul Treasure." You kill something, you get ten jazillion gold, guantlets of planet destruction, etc. After a while you begin to miss that first moment when you got your very first silver piece. It just meant more. In this game if they go for the uber hordes or even 4 items in every house thing I see a lot of these days if you are the first one through an area it gets boring. Things lose luster/value. I played a game yesterday, one of several respawns where I travelled more than people in Lord of the Rings. Every frickin town was looted, every zombie was triggered... I ran from a zombie only to lose him behind a cow, then watched from a tower as the zombie chased the cow through a town. It was a beautiful moment to savor. Anyway, I kept striking out town after house after police station after grocery store... empty, empty, empty... I went all the way to dieing from starvation. Then when I spotted food through a window of a house by the coast of all places I was set upon by a zombie who chased me for like 5 miles. I would have sworn the zombie was the first instance of an AI hacking a player because when I lost her by a good mile I would stop and look, and she would break from standing to chase me again. Anyway, on death's door from starvation I made it into an area that yes, WAS LOOTED OUT, but I managed to out think the previous looters and find a place easily overlooked and fed myself and got some items. I killed no one. I got no MP5 w/ silence, folding stock, lazer sight, or mini nukes I found no jackets, pants, or backpacks. Luckily no one can steal water pumps. The fresh orange I found was like a mountain of gold. I just don't want this game to lose that kind of value system. I would like very much for the devs to keep a toggle under options to totally dumb the resources down no matter what the final version of this game is, and would very much like to see Uber-hardcore servers where a scarcity of items is a given no matter who server-hops in. That's where I am going with this.

I get both angles on this. If the game was reality I think things would go down this way too. Some encounters friendly, some disappointing, a many more end in ruin. Civilization would likely yield more cooperation at first, but as food and other things got more scarce people would get more desperate... IDK, I think the high % bandit encounter route is the most likely end game if we were in a post apocalypse environment. But then you realize you are playing a pc game with real people while being based in a non-disaster life and you have to weigh the existential fantasy aspect vs. the real time "Don't be a Rick, it is just a game" aspect... I get both camps, I choose to be friendly because it makes me enjoy the game. If someone shoots me in the face I could care less. In a few days I will likely die from a server burp anyway, or a ladder, or a firefly, or a piece if code I never saw coming...

What do I want to see when I die? My ex-wife being crammed into the business end of an elephant by Satan. When I die in this game? Well.... How I died. Who killed me. And I would like to come back as a semi-conscious zombie for 10 minutes with a chance to go get the friendly-killer who put me down. I think that just might be a suggestion for the devs.

Cheaters punish themselves, and are blind to the concept. I feel sad for them actually. They don't play with "the fear" and it is "the fear" that makes this game savory. Really, I pity them.

Basically, please avoid too much variety of weapons, vehicles if any would even be viable, or loot quantity. I've seen posts more of everything, and for me and hopefully a few others, scarcity enhances the experience. Some on here would like fully stocked arsenals that look like a sporting goods catelog. I shop those in real life and would like to see it avoided in an apacolyptic fps. I hope that clarifies things a bit, and sorry for the bad editing in the opening post.

I ran into that same guy or someone like him camping in that same building. I'm a noob just experimenting, so I climbed to the roof of the tower and he runs in below me. As I descebded the ladder I spotted him and ran back up. Missing a point blank kill he starts trying to talk to me - I would have given him all my loot to work with him for a while to LEARN, so I descended with my gun away. My mic was off at the time so I tried hand signals but wouldn't you know, I hit the FU finger by accident. lolz., bang I was dead. I think he would have killed me anyway, but the finger likely sealed the deal. I like dieing in this game for some reason, and starting from scratch. I can't explain it.

I am grateful for the chance to participate in an alpha. Everyone should remember that it still is an alpha. What do you expect, BF4? Did you see what I did there? :)

the answer for me was to use morphine. it fixes breaks in this game.

I just started playing three days ago. Despite the bugs, the servers that don't sync, the physics model that defies explanation at times, the zombies that can't see my writing kick me on their buts, the zeds that see me from 5 miles away through near solid concrete, the guides out there that aren't updated to wean out now-bad advice, coming back from a brief ctrl-esc out only to see the message "my leg hurts" and "You are dead," and despite all the posters in here I lurked on telling the rest of us everything works great for them so therefore it is impossible we have had any problems... despite all of that I find this game addicting. My first PC game was on an Apple IIE. If you think you will outgrow PC gaming, hahaha, think again.