UltimateGentleman

Here comes the infamous excuse...it's an alpha H1Z1 is built up from the core DayZ is essentially copying features from the mod in to the landscape that's why they've had so much trouble with the zombie path finding, H1Z1 buildings are designed with zombie path finding. You don't seem to understand how unfinished H1Z1 is or how development works they're tackling different issues at different times than DayZ. Driving physics won't be final, how are the driving physics in the SA? Oh, there are none. Case in point, each team does different things driving is a placeholder just like many things in DayZ What's wrong with glowing loot compared to the vicinity menu? I mean do you have a magic sense that lets you know things are on the ground behind you? Glowing just represents how real life senses would define things on the ground, it's easy to tell if something is laying on the floor to be used but in a game it's basically impossible to tell if it's a thing to be used or a static part of the landscape. It's not always clear if something is loot or an inanimate object, glowing and the vicinity menu are there to correct that. How is it going to be easier than DayZ? It has some more user friendly features but that's it. It looks cartoony because it's set in a nice colourful landscape compared to DayZ's dull dead looking area and palette. Just because there's a zombie apocalypse doesn't mean a place would suddenly get all dark and horrible, california for example would still be nice and sunny. There just might be a bit more blood on the streets.

If they left everything behind there wouldn't be just a few bits of clothing or are they all that poor that they can afford a single set of clothes? Clearly people had time to pack or weren't very well stocked and that kind of gear is expensive Chernaus isn't a place full of rich folk clearly. Anyone who goes to an airfield without any optics is an idiot anyway or taking a huge risk to run in and get some, that's a battle zone anyway. Less military and camo gear makes it a lot harder to snipe people around towns, if someone can spot you a mile away with a red shirt good luck shooting them and easy to get military gear makes it hilariously easy to be well equipped because they have the best pockets, military gear being everywhere just means people get everything they need in like an hour or less and can race back to a city to hide and kill people. You contradicted your own point about how this doesn't mirror what you would do in real life and you're now saying this is what people would do, people don't play this game the way it was meant to be played they treat it like CoD, sure seems like you do. The world is full of assholes but nobody would be like the players in this game in real life, they ruin the experience for many players(I don't really care just wish people would be more sociable) and all it does is harm the games future. How have I not comprehended your reply? You said shooting people for no reason is survival and it isn't, people wouldn't just shoot on sight in real life unless their IQ is like 5. There's just no reason for it and everyone needlessly killing fresh spawns just spoils the enjoyment for people, go play CoD or Battlefield if you want a shooting game and if you want a zombie game come back when DayZ is complete and cry over how you can't camp and shoot people any more.

Then don't call it "survival" that's being a douchebag as I said. Yes it is a game but it's supposed to be a survival game not a death match it's the people that play it that way who ruin it the zombies are supposed to be the enemy and right enough they are easy right now but in future people will still just kill each other and call themselves hardcore survivors, which is hilarious. How so? Explain what's wrong with how I described seeing survivors in real life, nobody with half a brain would just shoot them unless they knew they were coming to get them or that they were murderers. In real life you can't respawn in 30 seconds, taking on a bunch of guys with guns is the most stupid thing you could do in a post apocalyptic world. To bring that back to the topic if military gear was mostly done away with people couldn't camp so easily to just shoot people and overall it would be better for non asshole players, someone with an orange raincoat hiding in a bush is fairly easy to see. If they want to kill people they're going to have to come up close and personal, which they mostly won't.

Pretty sure it's mostly the connection that does it, lots of people have that happening. Couple of times now I've had people spawn in front of me and they're just standing lifeless for a few seconds.

Well, you can't burn concrete down can you :P if you have a base in a wooden hut you deserve it being burnt down a bunker or something is ideal. I never said anything about not liking the Alpha-Phase I know the game will get better but if they're not going to cater to the whole fanbase and just the "hardcore" players and ditch it with their money that doesn't make me have any faith in them for future titles, if they do that then they're just so obviously money hungry. Lol. Not really, if DayZ is painfully realistic then so is H1Z1 it has the exact same stuff but more on a better engine. Have you even looked at gameplay of it? Zombies can kill you in 3 hits, they won't be like that in DayZ ever because all the "hardcore" fans would bitch and cry about it, having to actually use bullets on zombies and not players is a travesty. Not even sure what you mean by the two click thing, spawn next to each other? Because it's so realistic in DayZ that you and your friend can spawn on opposite sides of the map then use Skype or a phone to find each other when that isn't in the game. When in reality it would take you days or maybe even weeks to find them. What unrealistic views of DayZ people have.

Yeah I understand it as a move but it's a dick move to fans, removes a little faith in them actually wanting to give us good products and is stupid because if they kept it so more people would want to play it they'd get more money, add a few guns in now and then people would go crazy. Instead of just leaving it for a slowly diminishing minority, they gain way less money that way and any future games "made by the team who created DayZ" have far less weight. I look forward to having a squad in H1Z1 I don't like talking to people so I wouldn't have to to co-ordinate and say who I am all the time it would be great for raiding people's bases for supplies in a melee battle. And since guns and ammo are way more scarce, less chance of accidentally shooting a team mate because they look like an enemy is great.

How are they hardcore in a game that isn't? And that's kind of a dick move if anything how much money did they make from this game again? With just the alpha release, it hit like 30 million right(and counting) so it's set up in such a way that not many people like it in the end but maybe millions of people pay for it so the dev team can bathe in dollars? Sounds like bullshit to me. Especially since they probably will try work some DLC in to keep the money flowing, that's how business works.

No it isn't... That's PVP/KOS douchebaggery in a game. In real life you'd be an absolute retard to shoot anyone who could be one of the last people alive, or just anyway unless you're some badass sharpshooter the person probably has friends that will destroy you and even they were good people you just shot one of them like a fool. An intelligent and logical person would observe them and see what they're all about, if they find someone and shoot them ok they're bad dudes, avoid. Yeah as you wouldn't know any callsigns either so in your confusion it would be obvious you've just stole the stuff maybe even killed for it. And it still does encourage people in to making it a PVP war game camo enables people to snipe each other which is completely unnecessary, why would anyone do that in an apocalypse unless they were crazy or were already in some kind of battle? Nobody in their right mind would sit on top of a hill and just shoot any living people they saw. But that's what people do in this game and camo lets them do it since they might as well be invisible.

I mean the stuff that's not locked up, it would get put on in those barracks there wouldn't be any clothing besides any civ stuff the soldier had. Unless the zombies simultaneously attacked every base in the dead of night undetected every uniform not in storage except maybe a couple would just be used, not left in obvious places anyway. Or actually there could be a laundry room full of stuff depending on the size of the base but the actual military bases look like they were put up quick. It would be stupid to have laundry rooms full of gear for sure but they'd probably be there in real life, so going for authenticity it'd be ridiculously easy to get that gear and take any challenge out of it. If military zombies come in hordes and were way harder to kill than normal ones then I wouldn't mind it, at least if someone was geared up with it I know they probably had to work for it. And it does make it a war game because camo has no use other than for PVP and that's what people get it for, to be camouflaged(who would have thought) Zombies see you no matter what you wear so it's only purpose is to hide from players, if civilian gear is 99% of what you'd find people would be forced to be obvious targets and maybe think twice about sitting sniping innocents.

But think of the issues the game has how long do you think it would take for that kind of system to work? They'd have to map every spawn location outside every building and there would just be tons of issues with people spawning in the ground or if they log out 2 stories up spawning outside 2 stories up then falling and dying/breaking legs. What sense does it make to not be able to log in or out of them really? However, I do agree with it in certain buildings/places, like hangars or military bases so that people can't server hop for gear, they have to run somewhere suitable and have to run to the hangers and possibly get sniped in the process. That would be fine. Like the whole area around airfields should be a no spawn no log out zone, they're practically the dedicated battle zones anyway so where combat logging is going to be worst. Everyone who thinks this is a PVP game can just go there instead of harassing noobs and fresh spawns and ruining it for them. Unless they're too pussy and can't handle not being able to combat log themselves when someone is kicking their ass.

No it's not, what kind of a reply is that? Can you not look past your want for this and think of how annoying it would be for other people? People killing each other for no reason is annoying enough then there'd practically be no escape for Bambi's in say Berenzino the only thing to do is hide in buildings. Who wants to have to do that for ages just so they can stand outside and log out? It would just be stupid. Logging in and out of buildings isn't a problem anyway when someone logs in they're standing defenceless for ages you have plenty of time to shoot them so it's not like you can be surprised, unless you suck.

Yeah but not military gear it would all get used. Unless the military somehow didn't know the zombies were around and got attacked in their sleep which would be ridiculous, most of it would be locked up or on dead soldiers. Military gear is just too easy to get and is the best stuff to wear, it should be difficult to get not standard as I said plus more military gear just puts emphasis on making it a war game. Why not hiking gear? You get the backpack and boots and that's it hiking sets would be cool.

How would that improve the gameplay? That would just mean bandits have an easier job killing bambis because they have to come out and get shot. It's just stupid. I doubt they could ever fix it so that you log out in a building and spawn outside either you'd probably spawn in walls or in the ground all the time. And not being able to spawn in to places with barricades...what if you log out in a building that has none then you try to join a server where it just so happens there is a barricade? Can't see how they'd make it so complex that it wouldn't let you it'd probably just kill your character. It's just not necessary at all combat logging will always happen, running in to a building sure does make it easier but running round a wall is just as easy. This would just make the game more annoying not better.

Why would hunters just leave it around? They're most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse without military help they'd just go away in to the wild and live.

Why? Guns are scarce in this game, camo won't mean shit and zombies are way tougher. Wasting bullets on PVP would be completely retarded. It might be a bit easier to make bases and stuff in H1Z1 but it's a much harder game to survive in, already.

Yeah...if you could find it. In reality military bases would be locked up or still guarded because zombies wouldn't just kill the armies if some random guy with a machete can take on 4 at once so could the army... In any case though they wouldn't just leave weapon storage places wide open nor places with their gear. And random survivors couldn't just effectively wear military gear like they do in the game, assault vests especially are pretty damn heavy. What you would find in reality is normal clothes but in DayZ military shit is everywhere. I'd like to see the clothes being badly damaged when you find them, to the point where like a whole arm or leg is missing from them. Then you could find similar clothing and swap the leg over with a sewing kit, that would be cool at least getting geared up would be somewhat challenging. Pristine military gear should be like the holy grail not standard.

0 because I haven't been with team mates yet, like partly because of that. But every group I see has almost exactly the same outfit on and another than new spawns so does every other person. Most people probably manage to not shoot team mates because all they do is camp around and snipe people not roam around and find a challenge. H1Z1 seems way better for this as you can buy vanity items so you and your buddies could buy a hat of some sort that you don't find on the ground ever and wear similar clothes otherwise, or just go for unique kind of looks not many people will have.

But pristine? No, if military guys all got killed their stuff would be ripped apart other than guns.

Yeah military clothing should be as rare as the M4's are now in experimental, why would it all be laying around anyway? Fair enough some guns maybe a soldier died and dropped it but what zombies strip people naked before eating them? They'd never leave all their clothes in the barracks either they'd be mobilized right away with all their gear barely anything useful would be left except personal items, so it doesn't make much sense. As long as it's not like all brightly coloured stuff more civilian clothing should definitely be added, less emphasis should be put on it being a war game zombies don't give a damn about camo they see you from miles away no matter what you wear, so it should matter less whether or not you have camo stuff.

Yeah zombies can kill you in 3 hits in H1Z1, I bet those kind of players will play it and be all "H1Z1 sukz" because they can't handle zombies being hard and can't just have a deathmatch all the time but still claim DayZ is the hardcore one. Diehard fans are so ignorant and annoying.

Yeah this is what I mean. It would be fine I guess if the "story" was that you're a soldier that washed up on the beach. But that's boring, I'd rather be put to basics and have to learn everything from scratch not everyone just knows how to survive much less how to shoot so it would be great if you just had a select profession(or none if you want to be truly basic) meaning something you're decent at, like fixing stuff and then the rest like medical treatment you build up over time and repeated use. The more you survive the better you are at surviving, it would be great.

Exactly, it's stupid to not wear the camo stuff because you can't hide for shit. There might be a lot of clothing options but the camo stuff is what you need and there's only one decent set of it so everyone gets that. The camera doesn't mimic human eyesight either you don't get the kind of definition you have in real life, you can tell your friends face from like 100m away easy in real life but in the game if they're 100m away you can't see their face unless you use a scope. So a HUD and a name system is fine. Character models in H1Z1 seem a lot better too not sure what sort of variation they're going to add but you can see each body part very clearly and it doesn't seem like they'll have much military gear in the game, not as much as DayZ anyway, lord knows why it's all laying around anyway.

What people actually wear is barely different have you never had a look at bandits and other geared up people? They like all wear exactly the same stuff because tactically it's the best option, everyone has the same idea and to wear other things you expose yourself with bright colours. So say your team decided to wear the brown TKSO pants(or whatever they're called) as a way to identify each other then the standard set, there is a damn high chance you'll encounter people with them and the other gear you have so you'll all look the same. Just go look at the thread where people post their characters unless they're deliberately trying to be different or weird they all wear pretty much the same stuff. And it's stupid not to wear most of it because they have the most pockets so that's not an efficient option.

Yeah you have all those clothing items. But most of them are worthless as camoflague and the ones that aren't look the same so go figure. Plus people types make no difference if someone has loads of gear on you can't tell if they're black, white or asian heck it's hard to tell if they're male or female half the time.(maybe that's just me only encountered like 4 females) But ask yourself, when? Everything they plan to add H1Z1 could just add and much faster or if there's any other similar games I don't know about. Their next project will be great but DayZ is just lagging behind at the moment. Since H1Z1 is going to PS4 maybe Microsoft will hire the team and give them more money than necessary so they can make a game for Xbox/PC? I can see that happening. Or they'll just get them to give some ideas and steal them :D

Well if she's in the air force she'd have been trained to use weapons already right? It's pretty easy to learn if you've used guns before unless you're picking up a 50.cal or something :P The stress of having to shoot at real people should make your character shaky too so if you want to be a KoS bandit you have to work for it. I can't see what would be bad about that, everyone screams about how this game should be realistic then they say no to realistic features...