UltimateGentleman

As if, geared players get shot at but people there are there to shoot anyone and given that there are a few spawn points around there, it's mostly bambi's. Target practice is no way to justify bambi killing, there are plenty of zombies and signs etc to shoot. It's a stupid thing to do because people will get fed up and not buy the full game, in doing that you're reducing the overall profit of a game you enjoy for purely selfish reasons. Target practice is stupid right now anyway since guns are constantly being tweaked and there's lag etc, if you're good at aiming with an SKS now you won't be in the full release because it's aim will be totally different. So that really is no legitimate excuse, the only excuse is when there are several running at your to punch you to death or they don't leave you alone. Not "Oh look he's innocently exploring the game picking up jackets and hats I don't need...." *BANG* Legit? No.

Yeah I would like something along the lines of that but I'm not sure what it could be, maybe you could start going crazy if you don't kill people often enough :lol: kidding. Anyway that's another topic I guess. I imagine they will add a stamina system sooner or later, running 20 miles non stop with 100 pounds of gear after eating a tin of beans is rather ridiculous. If your stamina incorporated your diet and overall health that covers most of what I want in the game as far as status effects go, maybe when you get shot at your heart races so you get tired quicker or something. Getting shot at should have some sort of effect on your avatar anyway not many people are so hardcore that in real life they wouldn't crap themselves.

Again not all of us the only company I require is like a dog, I could easily live by myself as a hermit so why should I be forced to talk to people? Player interaction should definitely be encouraged but forcing it like that is not the way, I don't want to have to run up to people and talk to them to have my character not go crazy when they're probably going to shoot me. Unless they also happened to be going crazy, they probably would. Not entirely. Losing psyche for killing people is the only thing really wrong with it, not sure if you read my above post but if it was like that or similar it could work, being a status that revolves around how you look after your avatar. If you only have sugary drinks and spaghetti all the time you're going to be pretty shaky and unhealthy in real life, so in this game if you don't eat the right foods or drink enough you should have worse aim since you can't hold anything steady. And if you've been running around for hours you should be fatigued and have slow reaction speeds etc psyche should be an all in one status determined by many factors.

I was going to make a topic about where you find AKM's but figured this could be a useful one to have pinned if people use it enough. So whenever weapon drops are changed, post where you managed to find one basically so people looking to try out new ones have an idea of where to go. But yeah use this topic to find where weapons spawn if people are kind enough to list. Have a map ready to reference town names, there is a decent one here http://www.dayztv.com/map/#2.070.073 adjustable legend to find what you need. Weapons and their spawn locations as of version 0.45/46 all of these locations are subject to change if the version listed here isn't the current one it may or may not be accurate: High end and/or rare weapons AKM's (assault rifle) M4's (assault rifle) Average or common weapons SKS (semi-auto rifle) Mosin Nagant (bolt action rifle) Double Barrel Shotgun(I'll look up the name later there's only one shotgun right now anyway) Crossbow (...crossbow) MP5K Pistols/Handguns M1911 FNX45 Magnum Longhorn Other/craftable Bow You don't find these as far as I know, except dropped ones they don't spawn you have to make them. Anything that isn't here, post about it and I'll at some point add it to the list when I notice. Try to keep it simple so I can post it in to a spoiler like I've been writing, for quickness.

Hmm, I'm not sure how it's an office either... I see why you would call it a hospital though it's just one is next to a hospital so it would need a different name. It seems like it could be some kind of pharmacy? All those shelves could be for pills and stuff...although why does a gun spawn in the top room, very confusing. It does seem like a pharmacy or hospital waiting room kind of place. I guess someone should make a gallery of all the buildings with decent loot and their colloquial names so if we say "piano house" they can look that up in the gallery and know what the heck we mean... That would be good I could link the OP to that for quickness. If anyone has the free time and/or would consider it, it would be much appreciated.

That's fine. I agree that people shouldn't be allowed to kill themselves 100 times an hour or anything it's probably taxing for the server to have so many bodies and spawn people so often which would ruin it for everyone else playing, especially if multiple people were going crazy with suicides. But I don't think they should make it impossible, if they made it like the 2 deaths you suggested you still have a chance of meeting up with your buddies quicker and after that well your risk was for nothing. Another thing they could do is make you start of starving to death or dying of thirst if you keep killing yourself seemingly for that reason like if you done it 3 times and are trying to get to a specific place you start spawning half dead. And if you still keep killing yourself you just get kicked for putting pressure on the server.

If I get banned for my opinions that are in no way horrible or anything I wouldn't want to come back, I like to think the mods and admins aren't so petty as to ban me or anyone else because they disagree with something someone said ever. Ok so even if they did somehow stop server hopping(doubt it, they might limit it) there's still nothing stopping a clan of like 10 people running through the map, collecting all the ammo and hogging it then killing everyone. And if it gets like that, they most definitely will since that's the only way they can efficiently KOS. The game shouldn't be made easier for people with that kind of playstyle or mentality a group with a mission like that would just dominate the map and it would suck for everyone who just wants to enjoy the game and since they can't leave the server or whatever they're stuck playing with these a-holes with nought but melee weapons to defend themselves and hunt with. No point responding to the rest of what you said as it's irrelevant. That is what the game would turn in to you would never see the ammo for the best guns anywhere. No, I didn't play the mod so I just don't care standalone > mod as far as I'm concerned, oh my god I said it, a crime against your people. Seriously the Standalone aims to be different if the mod is DayZ then this Standalone might as well be considered a mod or a spin-off which means they can do whatever they want with it and the mod will always be there. "sacrilege" that's kind of hilarious, you act as though they should copy the mod as if it's some kind of religiously incredible game. And it isn't, in your and the people who played it's opinions perhaps but you are outshined by the people who didn't, none of us care if you played the mod we don't care how you want the game to be and it doesn't have to be how you want it to be. This game is easy anyway so I don't know what you're talking about if nobody kills me on the way it takes me like 10-20 minutes to get fully geared depending on where I spawn. It's only hard when you don't know what you're doing. Oh I get it, you're one of these people who think it's the hardest and most complex game ever. Similar to people who think Dark Souls is when it's just not really. It's not the worst game ever of course but it's an extremely minor title compared to most which are of course "casual" games. Lol. Really though explain how I want this game to be "easy" when it already is the only time it gets hard is when the FPS suddenly drops or you rubberband back in to the corner of a building with a zombie right behind you.

Ohhhh, I'd love a lever action Winchester, beyond revolvers they're my favourite type of gun it would be so awesome to be able to run around with one, even if they sucked and had no attachments who gives a damn they're badass. Would have to name my character Quartermaine or Tom Sawyer every time I got one... I really hope they do add one I prefer going to the awkward weapons you need to struggle with largely because I value looks over functionality I don't care if something is the best weapon in a game if it doesn't look cool it gets left on the ground.

That takes like literally no more effort than it does to find a high place and jump off. In fact, it can be easier you can't climb up every building but if you're near any building zombies tend to spawn. I don't see how this is a problem really...what is the issue? If it's such a problem they shouldn't add railings everywhere that's a waste of time, just make deaths by failing have a 5 minute spawn timer or something since when people don't lag out and slide off buildings any more it was most likely intentional. Still though I don't see the problem does people killing themselves impede your session...at all? I'd love to know how, don't give me that "immersion" crap. If people want to kill themselves they damn well should be able to there are no magical railings you can't climb over in real life to kill yourself from. Sure, you don't respawn so far as we know...but this is a game. If people want to play with friends what's fun about spawning an hour of running time away from them? It's either leave it alone, make it annoying or let people spawn in groups, what would you prefer? Because I'd rather a group spawning thing not happen I don't want to spawn and suddenly have a clan of 10 guys spawn behind me and destroy me. Although perhaps I could mix in with them and escape which would be funny since I'm bound to have the same clothes and character model as at least one of them...

Again I don't even PvP if you've seen me around the forum you'll have seen me complaining about all the KOS bullshit, we still need guns to be able to defend ourselves against them and hunt. I mean have you tried taking a deer down with a melee weapon? It takes perfect timing and only an axe does it quick, I sliced a deer like 6 times with a kitchen knife and it was still running. I can make a statement about 75 because that's barely anybody, every time we post this is on the homepage if people cared the poll would have tons more votes by now it's actually 79 people, is that supposed to be a blip on the devs radar? If like a million people said they wanted authentic calibres then they'd probably consider it but currently the majority hasn't said anything about it and it's almost exclusively people who played the mod or spoiled people with unrealistic expectations of how far a game can go who have said anything. Forgetting that this isn't the mod and the mod still exists. Also it does increase gun variety but if there's say 50 guns in the game do you want 20 different ammo types? I mean seriously. It's that or put variations of weapons already in the game like say a Mosin Nagant 2 which uses different ammo, people don't want guns that look the same and function slightly different they want a large variety of different guns not the same "Russian crap" (that's what people label it, I'm not judging) But yeah keep saying I care about PvP all you want you're just going to be wrong every time. The only PvP I care about is being able to defend myself against bandits without having to run away like a pussy because the right ammo is nowhere and they got theirs from 20 different servers.

I don't, I like to leave them open so people freak out and think someone is in the town when I'm loooong gone. Or just close the doors of like one place so they think I'm hiding in there. Potentially stupid question. Do bows spawn anywhere? Or are they only craftable weapons? I suppose people will probably find dropped ones but I wonder if they spawn at all. Guess I should add them to the OP to save endless "how do I make a bow" topics :lol:

And let us teach them to whine for perfect authenticity instead of accepting what they get graciously. And 18k is nothing compared to 2 million so that's still irrelevant. You basically are, it is not hard to shoot someone who is zig zagging with an automatic weapon nor is it hard to catch up to them not that running speed is basically the same with a weapon out, the only defence is running in a building and combat logging. What if you don't have a decent melee weapon? This isn't real life where you could ambush the guy and break his neck or something he walks in to a room and you're there you're dead. Running in to a building prolongs your death unless you manage to run past them and get out. Maybe you were out in the street because that's what exploring is or should we all play the game crawling about like it's fucking Splinter Cell or something? Anyone can turn a corner at any moment it doesn't matter how careful you are if you're near buildings you have every chance to encounter people and if you happen to not have any ammo because it's rare and they've spent hours server hopping, you are screwed. The only reason zig zagging works currently is because of lag and the inaccuracy of guns and it only really works at close or long ranges once you hit medium all they have to do is spray and you're dead. Well I can tell you that the majority of people aren't on this forum or elsehwere on the internet complaining about the ammo types, what does that tell you? Probably that they don't give a shit or don't care enough to moan. No it won't. If they made it easy like having health packs you automatically pick up and shit like that maybe but things like streamlining ammo in favour of gun variety are going to increase sales. Have you ever played an FPS where people didn't want more guns than the base game has? Part of why there are so many DLC's is because people want more of everything and guns are a big part of that. So why will the devs care about these few people who want total authenticity over the millions who want streamlined? If more people will buy the streamlined version they're going to make it streamlined or do they not want money...

And you know what they're job is? To make even more money. How old are you? Because I'm only 20 and even I understand that it all comes down to money in the end, business is business if more people want streamlined ammo that's the way it's going to be, they're not going to waste time catering to the minority it would be like if world leaders listened to the small percentage of people who think a rollercoaster should be built through their house. I don't want it because there's shit loads of guns to be added to limit them to say 8 calibres means that only guns with those calibres can be added, I want a variety to guns. That or they add many guns with different calibres and have all the different calibres in the game, what would be enjoyable about that? And FYI I don't even bother with PvP only when people take me on or they might be trouble, I still need ammo for hunting. If I find rifle A that needs rifle ammo A and I only find rifle ammo B and no rifle B for hours and hours well that's fucking annoying. If there were shit tons of calibres then it would all need to be balanced out and it would be pointlessly difficult to deal with non PvP aspects and even harder to deal with PvP aspects. Picture this, you play legit, no server hopping you've been looking for rifle ammo A for hours now and have found no other guns with matching ammo because there are fuck loads of calibres and not what you want because you have the most common rifle and all the ammo for it is pretty much gone or rare as fuck. And then asshole number 1 strolls down the street, he's server hopped like a bitch and has an M4 with a full inventory of mags, morphine and bandages. You're totally fucking helpless and why? Because authenticity that's why! It being authentically difficult gives people who bullshit the system with server hopping a phenomenally huge advantage over everyone who's legitimately struggling to find the right ammo or gun they need. So yeah explain the high points to making a small amount of guns in the game with different calibres or a large amount of guns with different calibres, a small amount would have too little variety while a large amount would be ridiculous. Streamlining fixes this issue, we can have as many guns as we want in the game and that variety is what people mostly want, not ammo.

I shall just clear this up. They aren't playing the game, they're playing the alpha of the game. If the game is riddled with douchebags that treat the spawn points like the beaches of Normandy and mow everything down they're probably not going to buy the full game. They supported the development by getting the standalone and immediately are thrown in to a world where pretty much all people do is shoot each other rather than enjoy what the alpha has to offer beyond that. Why try out all the cool hunting and whatnot if everyone you meet is just going to shoot at you anyway. Just because you have the freedom to do whatever you want doesn't mean you can do it people will get in the way and spoil the hunting you want to enjoy. I'm sure you can understand that much.

Meaning they don't have to cater to the people who want authentically varied ammo i.e. you. They should be doing whatever gets them the most money, that's how business works this isn't some romantically put together game for the sake of the die hard fans it's a game put together for profit, like...pretty much all games today. What is DayZ supposed to be? It's never supposed to be 100% realistic and they never said it would be. Plus things change, a promise was broken? Boo hoo.

I'm part of your problem perhaps. And that's not my problem. Lol PC gaming is hardcore? Whatever bro. It's not hard to buy or play PC games at all you must be part of the "elites" ha ha ha... You can play PC and be casual, it's possible, there are casual games on PC. Battlefield and CoD are still on PC and guess what, people play them! More people have bought the Standalone than have ever played the mod. If we assume every person who got the mod bought the Standalone then yes the "casuals" who never played the mod are in the majority and the majority takes the priority(unintentional rhyme I promise) DayZ is a product they cater to who gives them the most money, if you think DayZ is different from any other game you're wrong at the end of the day the goal is still money. We're helping testing the alpha? You must be confused, most people just want to play DayZ. Have you ever seen how many people complain about the game being broken on this very forum? Evidence enough that people probably don't even understand what early access entails. You're lying if you say you haven't seen people say shit like "I can't believe they call this a game what a rip-off it's not even finished!" You mod players need to realize you're outnumbered by people who didn't play the mod. And they play DayZ because 1 it has zombies and zombies are popular 2 it's supposed to be realistic and better than other shooters.

Maybe because it is fact that more deemed "casual" players have the game than "hardcore" players who played the mod. The people who played the mod are pretty much the only people who give a damn that's why Rocket or whoever it was says most people don't, the "casual" people don't, "casual" = majority so yeah not hard to work out. DayZ is a common game now, it may have a more than casual variety but it's not for some elite sect of "hardcore" gamers. It's up to the fans whether or not they want to stick with the more casual experience or go back to the mod. You care we don't.

Not the red underlined I. You want both, the majority doesn't so it doesn't need to be in the game for most people who play it to enjoy the game. I'm not sure why you think ammo variety would make the game suddenly more popular. DayZ already offers a very different experience from the typical casual games, if people play it they're going to enjoy what it has already not be like "Oh my god this gun doesn't even use the right type of ammo, LAWL that is hilarious" since they're going to be used to all assault rifle ammo being "assault rifle ammo" not 5.56mm or whatever, name a casual game that differentiates. Fact is, most of the player base casual, DayZ offers a variety like no other game they've played already one or two unrealistic features are hardly going to turn them off when they've been playing CoD or Battlefield with it's magical regeneration and whatnot. Making sense yet? I don't mean to put you down by saying you or anyone else is in the minority but well...you are. As soon as DayZ hit Steam it opened up to a much larger community than those who played the mod which was in a sense more of an "underground" title or niche as you said, it's not any more I'm pretty sure it's even advertised on Steam it's not something people have to hear about from friends it's common knowledge in the gamer community.

Can anyone offer more locations for the MP5K and the Longhorn? I don't think you mean a hospital but I'm not sure what else they'd be called, there's one right across from a hospital in Berenzino. I call the blue buildings with medical supplies clinics. Perhaps the building in question could be dubbed a health centre or clinic? Sorry if this seems trivial just I think it's important we have a solid description for places else their locations in this thread mean nothing :P If any mod/admin sees this and deems it worthy could you perhaps pin this topic? Maybe move it to a better location if necessary, if people are helpful enough it could be a very useful topic. I see the wisdom to waiting and seeing if it holds out first though.

No I'm not, I could possibly be but I'm not unless the over 2 million people that have the game except me and the others in this thread who don't care speak out and say it does matter then I am not in the minority. I'm in the minority of the people that voted but given that it's not even hit 100 yet and there are like 200k members on this forum(depending on duplicates and spam accounts) who gives a shit. You played the mod, good for you. If it had more ammo types then WONDERFUL...the mod still exists you know, if that has the variety you want...go play that. More calibres is not the only way to make the game hard it just makes one aspect of an already easy game more complicated than the other aspects, what's the point. Make every ammo type rarer than it is currently, that's the way. I looked round a whole airfield earlier today and I seriously found like 40 boxes of ammo, it should be like half that, at least. And then it would be somewhat difficult. Ammo types won't at all make this game challenging get your head out your ass. That's not the only way to make the game difficult and it's not the way it should be made difficult, you act as though that's the ultimate answer. It doesn't matter if it's not about realism, why do you even want more ammo types if you don't care about realism? Making ammo scarce does EXACTLY THE SAME THING if you don't give a shit about realism then what does it matter? Also what the fuck is the difference between realism and authenticity? Seriously. All you people who talk about realism =/= authenticity please consult a dictionary they are basically the same thing. Did I say that? No. Maybe you should try reading, the 75 people who voted yes on this forum do not matter at all they will not change the game, if this was an issue you'd see it all over the internet, more than 75 people would have voted yes if this was considered a serious problem. Do you want to know why the devs said people generally don't care? . . . . . Because they don't :lol: sorry if I blew your mind and sorry if you do care but you're not making the game and it doesn't revolve around what you want, if the majority of players don't give a damn then it's probably going to stay the way it is :thumbsup: As the saying goes "Don't fix what ain't broken"

Considering the devs don't really care about this forum and post on Reddit yes this forum has barely any influence. There is more than one play style but by far the most common one is KOS denying that is idiocy. You realize they're practically the same things? An authentic/realistic survival game needs to rely on it's players acting in a realistic manner to create an authentic survival apocalypse experience "Oh no there isn't an SKS in this town let me jump off the roof and respawn in another town" authentic. They're even added a railing to the police station roof where people do that because clearly they don't want people to do that. The aim is for your life to be something you care about in game as you would real life, explain what kind of idiot would care so little about his life in this situation that he would just sit in a bush and shoot people. It has nothing to do with GTA? Explain this, because people rampage around like it is GTA the only differences are there are no missions, shops or NPC's the way it's generally played it might as well be a third person action crime game... And what a fantastic story the players have created "basically everyone kills each other in a scumbag wasteland of wannabe hardcore killers" Yeah dude sandbox just means freedom to roam around most have actual objectives and such so not sure what you're getting at there the only thing close to an objective in DayZ would be "survive" So explain how camping outside good loot spawns and shooting anyone who goes in is survival. Explain how the KOS playstyle isn't an asshole playstyle are war lords and whatnot who kill and rape whoever they want not assholes because they have the freedom to do so? Just because DayZ is a game doesn't mean there's no asshole way to play it. Taking any kind of fun out of it for newcomers is asshole behavior, deny that if you want. If KOS's kill someone over and over as they spawn and they decide fuck it I'm not even going to buy this game the players are dicks then they've directly harmed the games future but yeah, that's a good thing! Anyway bored of this now I doubt you'll agree with any of that and I probably won't agree with you either so it's pointless to keep going, farewell. May we somehow reach a magical middleground of understanding.

What are you even talking about? Do you think 91 people is a lot compared to how many people have the game? It's nothing, not even 1% of the players. There have been over 2 million copies of the game sold so far and at the time I said that 91 had voted now 98 have. Please tell me how I'm in the minority, the fact that only 75 of that 98 voted for it also points to it being not that many else people would flock to this forum and that number would be hitting the thousands. I still find it hilarious how people treat this as an ultra realistic hardcore game. It is a game, there aren't realistic calibres in it, get over it. There are more than most games anyway, typically in like an FPS you just get "assault rifle ammo" or "shotgun ammo" that fits in every one of those types. You get more than that so you have to right to complain that it's "casual" compared to games like that because you want 100% realism when it's impossible with the current technology. There's a simulator where you can be a goat, and even one where you're a rock I'm very confident there'll be a gun simulator with all the calibres you can imagine, go play that or shoot real guns, whatever. I'm sure the people who don't really give a shit would appreciate it if the others didn't annoy the devs about it all the time, they have the power here. As I said before you get what you get, if they don't add any more calibres in then boo hoo the game is ruined for you.

All the best stuff in the game is military gear or in military zones, high capacity vests, mountain backpacks, combat knives, AKM's etc. I think there should be better gear elsewhere these places are cluttered enough with everyone scrambling for the best stuff. Why not a filleting/skinning knife in some kind of hunting or fishing location? Why should a combat knife be the best for skinning animals when there are knives specifically made for that job? They could also spawn the better hunting snipers/rifles When the inventory/backpack system is a bit more complex military zones should have military backpacks with many slots for mags and mountain backpacks should be moved elsewhere as they're not really what the military use anyway, military should have the best combat gear, hunting areas the best hunting and survival gear. Instead of the best melee knife, the combat knife being the best for skinning animals and everything else knives are used for, it shouldn't be useless for skinning but not the best. Thoughts? I think it would be great, people would almost be split in to factions, you'd see someone with military gear and know that they're probably looking for a fight since they're geared up to have the most ammo or people with hunter gear and know that they might be a bit more welcoming towards some co-operative hunting/trading. Better way to tell the kind of person apart since currently everyone just goes for military gear since it's the best in all categories.

Exactly what I want. Right now for the best stuff you have to either be a PvP orientated player or risk getting killed at them because they all gather round the same areas. It feels cheap to server hop or go on low pop ones just to get a backpack that shouldn't only spawn in a military area to begin with. The game is way too geared towards military gear, PvP and fighting right now there should be two sides to the coin not one greater than the other. I'd love craftable coats from deer, wolves, bears etc it would look so badass. See a dude with a bear coat and perhaps a bear helmet and you know he probably killed a bear... It would be great for people who just want to survive not fight each other, you could be somewhat comfortable in the knowledge that a person you see in the forest is a fellow hunter not someone who will shoot you instantly. Of course trust nobody but at least lone wolf type players would have people to meet and exchange items with, with less fear of betrayal.

Thanks for the info so far guys, I'll polish up the OP as time goes on to look a bit more...official I guess but for now it gives you a general idea of where to look if you're clueless. By the way, I have no idea what to call a certain building, they have 3 floors on the top in a small room they typically have various guns. There's one across from the hospital in Berenzino, what do people call them here? They have a lot of shelving units and many open rooms.