UltimateGentleman

What the hell does sleeping have to do with Rust? Fallout has sleeping, I guess Rust is a carbon copy of Fallout? Harvest Moon also has sleeping...they're all the same game! Why should sleeping be omitted but not infection, blood transfusions, blood types, food poisoning, knockout damage, freezing to death and every other madly specific feature? Sleeping is a fairly mundane thing why not have that but something so advanced as blood transfusions?

I don't even understand what you're talking about, why wouldn't you see the animation of laying down? Should be laying down then 30 seconds or so before sleep is initiated. Since time will be going faster sooner or later it would equate to a good few minutes, obviously no normal person falls asleep in 30 seconds. You shouldn't be able to log out, be gone and then the animation happens that would be dumb zombies could come out of nowhere and attack you while your robotic avatar casually goes to sleep un-fazed. Have you ever been tired? Like really tired, it makes a huge difference in how well you can do just about anything, complex tasks become impossible, you have no energy, your reaction speeds suffer greatly etc etc Lack of sleep makes a lot of sense as a negative status, slower to take out weapons and ready them, slower melee attacks, slower to start running as fast as possible(though adrenaline could play a part there) AKA no turbo mode.

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I feel your pain. Why can't we just go in a cupboard or something and try warm up a bit at least... Either they need to tone it down a lot or increase spawn rates of everything related to warmth, it should be a lot easier to make a fire. Fire should be easy and raincoats etc should be Jesus tier items and then one of those shitty plastic coats you can put over any clothing pretty much, God tier. Holy shit night time I didn't even think of that how do we even live, I think they do plan to speed it up anyway but night should be at best 3 hours or it'd be ridiculously hard to survive, virtually no point playing at night unless you want the challenge for whatever strange reason. Night needs changed a lot, especially the brightness.

Yeah it's just placeholder. But the animation isn't the problem...it's the frequency, how does a zombie slapping you make your arm burst open they're not Wolverine... And like almost every hit sometimes, think the most I've been hit without bleeding, regardless of gear is 5 times before starting to bleed. Currently that it just spurts out like a fountain reduces how annoying it is by being hilarious so I'd hope they fix how often you bleed first :lol:

It hardly needs that many most of them can be done by holding one button and pressing another. Like instead of num pad 7, 9, 1, 3 for looking around, R1 + analog or maybe even click analog for free head movement. The only thing I'm not sure about is adjusting the range for guns, touchpad I guess. It can work as multiple buttons.

Would this be too much? Should wells always be a source of fresh clean water? I don't think so, given that the rest of the game is so harsh why leave them safe? I think it should be possible to poison them with something, those blue berries, some kind of poisonous herb like nightshade, maybe even part of a zombie. It'd be a great thing to be able to do, being hunted by a group of dudes, head to a town with a well, poison it and hide. They're going to have to leave to find some charcoal pills or they'll be delayed while taking them and getting healthy again. It could save your life in many situations. Or could be used to ruin the lives of other people... However. Were this an added feature I think the poison should only work for an hour or so, just so it's not possible for all water sources to be poisoned constantly because people definitely would go round doing that all the time.

I have not once been captured by anyone, nobody has even attempted it... It's so boring just oh there's a dude BANG why not have some creativity and food poison me what's the goal in just shooting someone dead they respawn in 30 seconds anyway, possibly near you, possibly near you until you have no ammo from killing the same dude 30 times. Why not poison people so they have to struggle for half an hour while they die? Is it so much to ask that people be assholes in an interesting way? KOS is just the dullest playstyle, have some fun with people at least. If you go round killing people all the time and have never taken someone hostage, consider it today! Or am I the only one who actually wants put in that situation? Over just being straight up killed by someone you never even noticed.

How is it stupid? This is a game that's attempting to as best as it can imitate what it'd be like to survive in a zombie apocalypse(except that everyone wouldn't be killing each other) why should it give benefits but lack of it no negatives? That doesn't make sense. No matter how much you eat or drink running 30 miles will still fuck you up unless you're Captain America or something, sustenance isn't a magic cure. What you describe there is what I meant by resting, resting should be when you're still in game just for a few minutes to keep you fresh if you plan on having a prolonged session. Sleeping is the magically disappearing power we currently have with logging off. Combat logging shouldn't just be left as it is it should be made almost impossible unless you're lucky enough to get the time to finish the animation.

Because sleep is needed, why shouldn't it be? Why not just eliminate the need to eat and drink too, it's survival of course sleep should be important. Sleep should be required but only after like 10+ hours depending on how much you've been running around and how healthy you are if anyone is playing the game longer than that they need to log off and go outside or get some sleep themselves anyway, it's a system that would work with peoples life styles and stop them from binging themselves in to an early grave. They are going to do that stamina is an upcoming feature as is the weight of gear which will obviously make you get tired faster. When that's a thing resting will be vital, sleeping being the best way to rest.

Yeah they definitely need to do something about how you can heat yourself up...

I think it would be a great addition but not as the OP said you shouldn't just be there the whole time for anyone to kill, what if you don't play it for months did your guy just hibernate...? Logging off should just be sleeping, complete with animation to eliminate combat logging, unless you have 30 seconds to a minute when people are after you there is no cowardly escape. Don't play the game for 8 hours, next time you play whatever fatigue your guy had is gone and he perhaps feels fresh. It should definitely be needed at some point, if you didn't sleep for days in this world you would go completely insane or just collapse. I think there should be a logging off sleep option and a general sleep/rest option so you can still play the game but have a 5 minute rest and restore some stamina when that's a thing.

Yeah lethal poisons should be a chore to make and in water supplies as said only work for an hour or so. Along with them could come some advanced medicine making, just so it's not a random thing to murder people with, healings powders and whatnot. Or itching powders so people can't shoot you effectively. Paralysis would be great, it's much more fun to take from people and keep them alive especially if it was someone following you. With that perhaps you could even have a trap set up so some paralyzing chemical drops on someone if they trigger a trip wire. To balance it plants with ingredients like that should be either rare or in dangerous areas like near airfields. It'd also be great for base building, you could set up in a fairly innocent looking house, nobody is gonna go there first they'll hit the well then loot the area. Incognito base defence.

How would hygiene work for smelling people? I smell someone The smell is gone I smell someone Oh fuck some stinky bastard is nearby Oh it's just a zombie No wait it wasn't! The smell is gone "You are dead" Anyway I'd like the feature to turn off seeing who is on but not to know who's nearby everyone would just use that to hunt players, walk one direction with the player menu up, soon as someone pops up you're heading their way all you need to do is stand on a hill and watch. I would rather the audio worked so I could just hear people walking around at a reasonable distance.

Would it be possible for the devs to create a testing area with a shooting range, all featured weapons and animals running around? Like in it's own "world" so it's not added to the Chernaus map. That would be great for testing new weapons, instead of everyone trying to find them and half of them getting killed while looking. Or not having enough ammo to use them for very long. Not sure if PVP could be disabled or if it could just be an offline thing anyone can use at any time, the latter would no doubt be better. I know it would take some time and effort which would then not be focused on the game but I don't mean anything fancy, just a quick barely designed area that functions. Perhaps even just a copy and paste area from Chernaus if that could be done. I think it'd be a great addition, I bet a lot of complaints about how inaccurate guns are actually revolve around issues like lag and connection so if it was an offline area people would see the true dispersion etc guns have.

Like 99% of the players give that impression anyway, at least with that new players could be like "Well okay, I can expect some PVP for sure" Perhaps add in some spawn commands then so there's not weapons everywhere, spawn AKM, spawn deer, test. But if you're going anywhere where newer weapons are going to spawn, most likely airfields and other military areas...that's just where those people will be. The people in low pop servers are pretty much all always there for loot/an easy ride so it's still very risky. Plus you'd be using up all your ammo, or you might only find a box of the right ammo for the gun, 20 rounds isn't enough to get a good feel for the weapon or see how well it performs. It'd be a great way to divide the attention going on new updates, people in multiplayer can go see what the spawn rates are like, and probably get killed by other people looking. While people in a test area can see how well they shoot, reload etc since in a server if a bullet misses you can't really tell if the gun is just shitty or if one of the players was lagging or if your aim was just off. I'm sure there's probably been a ton of complaints about how inaccurate some guns are when their lagging worse than 90's internet would. It would also give people something to do when servers are broken or updating, spawn AKM and drum mag, turn god mode off, spawn 50 zombies. Maybe friends could even join and you could duke it out and have fun while the game is developed since in it's current state it might not be satisfying to some.

Yeah but having 2 canteens also fills up 4 slots. I've never found myself needing more than one, even a water bottle is fine there are so many wells around you need only fill up every so often. In my experience hydration lasts a hell of a lot longer than energized, plus you get a lot of water out of cans of food. I'm not sure how ground water is going to have a random chance to make you ill, it should be obvious if the water is stagnant or not I don't think it should be ALL ponds have a chance to make you ill, unless there's a dead person in them that would be a cool feature.

Karma :D But yeah it is annoying especially when you just die suddenly, I'd like to hear what killed me. My last life or second last life a guy with a sawn off shotgun killed me from 30+ meters away. Was just instant you are dead, no noise. He could have already shot at me by that point, who knows I only noticed him randomly then tried to escape and thought fuck it, straight line because shotguns can't shoot that fa-...must have been one of they magic shotguns. Anyway yeah it's really annoying, and why I have no issue with third person you should be able to hear someone on the other side of a wall running around easily, third person makes up for the lack of sound in the game. Otherwise it's almost like playing the game with a sound blocking helmet on that restricts you vision.

Yes because just being killed is dull as shit, I can see the appeal to killing a geared up player somewhat, might be fun to destroy their hard earned gear and waste their time but someone who's best item is a stick... Being tortured would be a lot more interesting than oh hey YOU ARE DEAD. I'd love to get caught, get food poisoned and then somehow escape and survive, it would make that particular life a lot more interesting. In all the times I've been killed by other players I have never remotely been a threat to them, besides a few YOLO moments at airfields. People say they need to shoot to be safe...what sense does that make when you're gunning down fresh spawns with a 75 round drum mag? If they were dangerous to you why play the game... Show fresh spawns how mean the post apocalyptic world of Chernaus is, they don't learn anything if they're dead.

So after dying of starvation like 3 times in a row, dying from losing a bathtub full of blood after a player and like 10 zombies attacked me while I defended myself with a pitchfork that didn't hit anything, I then spawn here. Where once again INSTANTLY a zombie sees me, from that shore over there(and promptly runs in the water to do lord knows what) Then I see a player who leads a zombie away, which means FINALLY I get peace from zombies for 5 seconds to search for food! Of which there was none, naturally. Found a pickaxe though. Then I had to join another server, instantly a zombie attacks again while I'm checking an apple tree. Swung the pickaxe at it like 10 times, 2 hits... Then some douchebag with a shotgun comes out of nowhere and kills me from like 30m away. The game seems so much more of a hellzone than ever before and it fucking sucks you have to be extremely lucky to get anywhere now it seems. If you want to look in literally any building you have to somehow survive many zombies with no weapons and it's just ridiculous, even if you manage to lure them away or kill them without losing all your blood you're not likely to find anything useful anyway. Just wtf has happened since I last played the game a couple of months ago? It's just insane now. Last time it was at least survivable now you spawn hungry and more often than not get cold within seconds.

There's one at one of the airfields...but good luck testing guns there without people coming and killing you :P That's basically the problem, you can't really test how good a gun is if someone kills you first with better skills or a more accurate gun and you can't shoot at trees to check aiming because someone will hear the shots and find you before you get enough data to contribute to testing. And it's not like you can just say "plz don't shoot me" you'd be dead before finishing the sentence. So an offline testing area would be great it would save so much time and would give people who can't get in to any experimental servers something to do.

I'd love a Winchester or just any kind of cool lever action rifle, modified to use the same ammo as the Mosin maybe not sure what'd be the best fit. It'd just be great fun to wander around with a kind of novelty weapon like that, cowboy hat, Clint Eastwood set. Even if they were really shitty weapons the challenge would be welcomed. A bullet belt too, that would be great and it wouldn't be that overpowered it'd only be useful for weapons like that with no clip to load in.

The other day I spawned near some tiny coast town, so I go to check it and find a bandanna in a shed(yay...) Then some zombie bitch starts chasing me while I'm looking for something useful. And then some random slightly more fresh spawn shows up... I wave, as always. We're both in the shed so I take my fists out and figure this bitch is blocking the entrance lets take her out! I start hitting her, dude starts hitting me...then we're both circling round the zombie trying to "aim" it at the other guy so we have a boxing partner. Eventually we punched our way out the shed and I got knocked out... But I waited and woke up, to find the guy getting attacked by two zombies so I try to run and get knocked out...then I got up again. Guy was dead, he must not have had the patience to wait :D Then I died from a combo of starvation, blood loss and zombie attacks because there was just no food to be found. Moral of the story, don't seriously fight as a fresh spawn because even if you survive, you will die later from the injuries and/or time you wasted not looking for food and clothes.

It's a lot more of an interesting thing to experience in the game than "You are dead" though and it'd be nice to get to know the people who may eventually kill you instead of walk in to a room "You are dead" I just find it really dull, if you're killing a fresh spawn who literally has only the torch and battery you're hardly doing any major damage to them like wow I have to respawn somewhere else where I might actually find some unlooted area. Given the lack of direction in the game it'd be nice to be challenged by captors instead of shot by random douchebags who play too much CoD.

Sounds like a hacker stole from your inventory? Too perfect timing for you to have accidentally dropped it.