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I know you don't believe this....but: This game is about killing people, it just has a post apocalyptic backdrop. I mean FFS he made the mod because he bought a shooter game. The original game he played before making the mod was a group orientated tactical shooter. The company that built the original game, and the company he now works for, makes simulations and TACTICAL SHOOTERS. Why do people think it will stop being a shooter? Get some friends, get a TS channel, and by all means INTERACT. Looking for friends in this game is why you get shot in the face so much.

I love server hoppers. They spawn in at NEAF N. Prison second floor, nice clean shot thru the window. Most of em are greeted with a immediate "You are dead" before they even fully spawn in. Go confirm the kill, "Unknown Entity has no pulse, but is warm to the touch". Guess they hopped to a different server :)

Heres the thing that bothers me. Even us "FPS" types are interacting in game, we just aren't interacting with you in a way you want us to. So those 6 guys I have with me in TS do not count as players in the game? We are playing, we are interacting, we are working together for the benefit of the group. We gear up to the 9's, and if you kill one of us, your taking that guy out of the game for hours, so we tend not to be the most trusting group. And I do take what we do I a somewhat realistic outlook on the game. We are the preppers, we have everything we need to survive, we took over a military base, and we defend it from any that would come to take our supplies. We don't need any more mouths to feed. Maybe it will have more impact once the game becomes more persistent, and we can actually claim territories, but for right now we work with what the game gives us.

Who says my family is gone? You once again writing everybody elses story? You are soo god damned arrogant.

I don't think Ken has seen much of the world, and I am doubtful if he has children of his own. Would you risk the lives of your family on the hopes the people you run across wont slit their throats in their sleep? The only people who will be this naive are the ones who simply couldn't survive without the help of others anyway, and at best they will be flipping a coin. Desperation is the only thing that will force strangers to work together. Those who have the skills and the group already wont need , nor will they want, another mouth to feed.

Yah, apparently people believe that somehow society will rebuild itself amongst the chaos of a ongoing and long lasting apocolypse, yet history has shown that even in the midst of a "minor catastrophe", rape and murder and general lawlessness happen, oh and war is strictly conventional. These people will be the first to die.

Um I am playing a zombie survival game, just currently its a very bad one. I don't have to worry about zombies, even as a fresh spawn, the only thing I have to worry about are OTHER PLAYERS. Again, if it would make you feel better, I could bury my bullshit in roleplaying terms, but that would be that, bullshit. Sorry I kinda grew out of role playing a long time ago. Fact is tho I fill a very valid role in a survival horror game. Consider us the militant survivors. The airbase is ours, and we will kill anybody who dares trespass. Oh I might add we usually play o clan servers or anybody who puts BANDITS WILL BE KOS on thier host name. Sad thing is I know that my version of a zombie survival game is far more realistic then yours. Besides you should be thanking us, as you know as well as I do why people goto the airbases.

My point is, while LA and Katrina were devastating, they are minor compared to the hell Dayz would be, and look what happened. They were temporary problems in a civilized world, in dayz, assuming they ever get to 200 players per server, that would still be less then 1 person per square kilometer. I don't know you, I don't know what you have seen, but I do know what I have seen, and I promise you I have seen atrocities that would wake you in the night, and it wasn't a worldwide pandemic that caused them. Rape, murder, genocide, cant really put those aspects into a video game. So yah, I don't really have much faith in society when the "shit" truly hits the "fan". Romero had it right. Anyways, bedtime, Hasta.

See, its YOUR game, only YOUR rules apply, and you cant stand anyone playing the same game you are playing it differently then you The ultimate in internet snobbery. How am I ruining your game again? You actually believe that if a pandemic happened, that everybody would play nice? LA Riots, Katrina ring any bells for you? Now tell me you would let random strangers into your group, into the same group with your wife, your children. Trusting fools are dead fools, even worse, they end up killing others. So sorry if I don't put a "roleplaying" spin on it. But if I was to, we would be those guys who protect what they got. The militants who are smart enough to know better. We take care of our own. But you dont care, its not YOUR playstyle, so you talk down to it. And once again you resort to a personal insult. So are you going to tell me you would talk to me like that in real life, or are you talking like that because its the internet, and you don't have to worry about a poke in the nose? I thought you did not separate internet from reality?

No see apparently there is no room in this game for any playstyle but yours, like some little snob. For me there is room for your playstyle. But go ahead, keep it up hotshot! Stupidity eh? See those are internet words, you wouldnt say that in real life to me now would ya :)

You just argue for the sake of arguing, nothing but YOUR play style will do, and nothing else will please you. Your like a impetuous 14 year old. If you rather my squad camp a respawn point and kill bambi's, we could do that if you would prefer. Or we could just run up and down the coast on your server, and just RUIN your game. You wont be happy untill we are gone, which will never happen, because there are more of us, and we are stronger then your type. And you wonder why people deliberately do things to piss you off.

Ok did you ever watch the original Dawn of the Dead? The "survivors" took only those they needed, they didn't take everyone. Remember when they got attacked by the mauraders? Both were doing "the right thing" Both suffered for their decisions. I have all of my mates, we have all we need, we don't need you. We mostly camp Airbases, not like we are attacking those who obviously don't know what they are doing. We just do it better then anyone else. That being said, we also realize that the vast majority of this game are a bunch of moronic tweens, that even if you do attempt to hold them up, they just shit talk and try and knock you out for your gear. So you say we aren't playing right, I disagree. We have absolutely no reason to be "social", as we already have our own social structure. Survival in this game is a joke, if it wasn't for the pvp I would quit this game, because as far as survival goes, we already beat it.

That's just it. In this game you can be the paragon of virtue if you want. You can stand and fight, and don't have to worry about the hospital bills. You can also be a evil bastard, and again you don't have to worry about the hospital bills. I would love to see a bunch of you "paragons" take a city like story sobor, and make it a bandit free zone. You cant tho, because you know as well as I do, it would be like putting a big ol bullseye on your forehead. And that's the whole point. Your welcome to play the game any old way you want, just dont be surprised when the vast majority don't play along.

Do you give a shit about my playstyle? Why is your playstyle more important then mine? That's what this is really about. People thinking that its their game, when its not. Its not your game to dictate to anyone else how to play, and its not mine. I'm not trying to dictate your gameplay, your trying to dictate mine. Seems rather easy to play the game you want, go west my friend, go west. Don't wanna play my game? Stay away from the hotspots. If you choose to play in the hotspots, then you choose the risk, and I don't want to hear any crying about it. Its a big map if ya didn't notice.

Look, you still don't get it. I have been playing sandbox games since they were invented. Your side of the argument has for the last 20 years been the same old sorry song and dance. "Oh you kill in a video game something must be wrong with you IRL." It was old then, and its old now. It has to be the weakest argument in the history of internet arguments. We are no different then you, hence why you need to get off your "high horse". I equate this game to poker. Cod/BF4 those are like poker games where no money is at stake. People play like idiots in those games. Dayz is like a poker game with money at stake. It tends to make people play a little better, play with a bit more strategy and tactics. Those who don't, well they just sit in Berenzino playing noob wars. You really need to keep psychology and morality out of it, it just makes you look like a higher then thou ass. You may of come here looking for Ultima 4, I didn't, I already played it.

SGT. Kalme: Instead of a giant wall of text against your psycho babble hyperbole let me just state it simply. Have you ever played, oh I dont know, Tekken, or Battlefield, or any other game where you either beat or shoot people? Did you shed tears every time you won a match or shot someone? No? This game is no different for me. Just because YOU want to make it more then that, doesn't mean the rest of us do, or that there's something morally wrong with us because we don't see the game the same as you do.. ITS JUST A GAME! You seem to be a intelligent person, why is that so difficult for you to grasp? It doesnt go any deeper then that, no matter how much you want it to be. To me its just a high stakes FPS game, and that's what draws this game to me, and I meet far more people who play the game like I do then YOU do. Even if I could prove to you that 75% of the people playing this game play it like me, you would I bet still say there's something wrong with all of us, instead of you. Oh one last thing: "For your actions to help homeless, I salute. But it was just a series of examples not directed to you personally" Yes it was too directed at me personally, so if you example was flawed, I would say its your thinking that's flawed, as I have proved I can be sympathetic to the homeless, and yet be a brutal heartless killer in the game. The whole point of video games is entertainment and fantasy, you, sir, seem to have forgotten that.

Wasn't directed at you, but I will say this, you are terribly wrong on the morals side. You cannot put video game playing in the same category as morality in real life, the two are completely separate, period, and I question your mental stability if you confuse the two. You WANT this game to be something complex, you have some need for it to be. See your type simply cannot distinguish real life from the games you live in heres proof: Be it saying rude word to homeless, acting douche in forum or playing game as one - it is related to morale in your person. You have to interject a real life scenario into it, every single time. Would it surprise you to know, speaking of the homeless, that I give to my local shelter, and even donate my time there when I can. That I help out at the local Catholic food bank, yet I am not religious? So how does that work out in your mind? Apparently I say rude things to the homeless, but I bet I have done more for the homeless then you ever have? You sir, have not a grasp of reality. Its a game, get over yourself and that high horse you PRETEND to ride. Excuse me if I treat it as such.

Makes no difference, took most of us 5 minutes to adjust to the new zeds, they are back to being nothing more then a nuisance again.

See right here is the problem. People always trying to bring real life morality and consciousness into a frickin video game. The only conclusion I have ever been able to come up with about this type of person is that they spend so much time in a video game, that it becomes their life, and they can no longer distinguish between the 2. Hey if you wanna roleplay the hero, knock your socks off. I wont stop you. But you best wake up and realize that out of the 2 million other players who have bought this game, your gonna be in the low minority, and most of the 2 million people are just gonna see you as something to shoot at. Its not because they are immoral, or have some low value on life, its because to them its simply a game. I also find it ironic that its these solo players complaining about other people being anti social. So let me get this straight, your the ones running about ALONE, while the rest of us have friends we been gaming with for years that bought the game because we did, and we are the ones who are anti social......go figure the logic. I dont talk to you because I dont need to, I got a dozen other guys in TS for company. I dont shoot you for your gear, I garantee I got better anyway, I shoot you because I want to. I shoot you because thats pretty much the point of this game, to get the best gear ya can and not lose it. Having something to lose makes for a more exiting game.

There is no paradox, the points you pointed out could be for ANY sandbox game where there is PvP. 1. I don't want to, nor do I need to be nice to random tweens, let alone roleplay with them. 2. Its a game, most of us dont take it seriously enough to put a value on ayone elses life but our won and our mates. 3. Wish PvP was more abundant. 4. This is as it should be. The guys in my teamspeak are my "social group" in Dayz, and if you ain't one of us, then your toast. Look, been playing MMO type games since what m59 and UO, and the same things your stating today are the same things people were complaining about then. This game will appeal to different people for different reasons, but I garantee you will not be able to force others into your niche of playstyle. There will always be guys like us shooting people like you without a second thought, and to us that's as it should be.

You can still play. You wont be able to see the master server list but your history and your favorites will load still.

We used to. Got tired of all the shit talking tweens, so now I prefer to shoot em before they can get into mic range.

Might hit ya up on that, just don't be another hold up in a house 3rd personing the doorways.

You do realize we do the EXACT same thing in Solnichny, sitting around waiting for movers to come on thru, because house camping in Berenzino is stupid. While waiting for a real challenge, we pop off the spawning bambi's, hoping they will tell all these supposed "Hero's" where we are. I know for a fact we have killed over 30+ in a sitting, so really getting to 300 aint no feat. Problem I guess is your all trying to find friends, well I already got mine, and we are waiting for these "heroes" to come give us some justice. In the meantime, bambis zigzagging down the road make for good target practice.

Hope you brought lots of friends when ya do find us :)