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Don't buff this gun...it is good as it is. Fix the others first. Then add more, then fix each one everyone is going to be added. Too way m4 = OP, otherwise people won't server hopping to get it.

Right 20 mins ago my friend killed 3 people in Factory, near Berezino...with an m4...they had 2 simonov and 1 sporter Doing...and i also make feedback instead of whims

And there are 15 pages about this OP weapon while other broken weapons are REALLY NOT ACCURATELY PORTRAYED without the attention they must receive? And it's not because i think M4 is OP. The others aren't fixed....M4 is really fine as it is! It's the only weapon in this 160 hours that killed me along with the mosin. So that, if people think is not accurately portrayed then they won't loot it.

M4 is common...because it has been looted by everyone. Everyone goes to Military base during nighttime with high gamma or during the morning when nobody plays. Everyone goes there and get the backpack plus a M4. best choice in game are 2: M4 or Mosin......M4 actually gives you a great mid range shooting, and if you feel to lack on range, just wait some more metres before shooting! You are not forced to shoot at 300 metres at all costs! Plus the Acog zoom better than the 3.5 for SKS. What do you want more than this?!

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More? this so bastard spray and pray weapon everyone going to loot? I don't send you where i wish to or they going to report me, even if i'm angry because they killed me in a military base like 10 mins ago. Everyone has an M4, and you have the courage to complain?!? Everyone going on a fucking military base! Even me that i need a backup weapon as i have the Crossbow. Why? Because I want to pick a damn god handgun i can't find in any decent place because in THIS GAME ARE MORE COMMONS THE RIFLE THAN THE HANDGUNS! These are the things to discuss...not the bullshits. Now i understand while i use the vocal chat in game i hear people not above 15 years. ...m4 more powerful...the hell what i've got to read. I should scratch my testicles with the sandpaper

Well...Over 14 pages of maths, kinetics, physics and youporn, what people are asking with this post? Being able to kill with 2 bolts or make the M4 more OP than now?

As said by UltimateGentleman the gel test is not accurate test as human tissues and muscles are differents from the gel As Said by Gotrek during medioeval era the Crossbow were used to pierce iron plate armor which arrows can penetrate side by side. I gave you a video of a top high end crossbow that can grind your flesh with a single bolt....grinds that neither the arrows on FIRST BLOOD PART 2 were able to do. So if you want to cry more because you find outragious that a skilled player PWN you with a crossbow with a single bolt....then cry. But i wish to remind you how difficult is to kill someone with the blaze 95....now imagine that you are going to do the same with a weapon that must be one shoot one kill. If you fail you are dead. Doesn't it is correct to reward people that hit a guy in the chest with a kill?....As said above, a bolt with ancients crossbow were able to pierce side by side an iron plate armor. Nah uh? it should not be 1 shoot 1 kill for you? ....ahhhhw, what such a whims.

a simple formula: 5.56 > 7,62 when we talk about distance 7,62 > 5,56 when we talk about damage So that, Crossbow bolt > 7,62 when we talk about damage the projectile even if slower, it's also bigger, because of its size will inflict more damage. This is kinetics. No more or less! I was playing with the Bow when i was younger... When i was using it around 50 metres with medium-hard shafts the arrows pierced and quite came out from the other side, from 10 to 15 cm. so i know what i'm talking about. So definetively i agree Crossbow must kill with one hit...on some video i've also seen with 2....And the guy that is going to make that kill must be rewarded, Because this weapon has a slow reloading time. So the hunter must be rewarded for his score and cold blood. Stop continuing this post for 13 pages, there are more important things to balance....like shotguns, sporter and blaze. M4 for noobs. Enjoy this video

the problem is that even if we talk about 60-100 metres, that would be a miracle.....but the problem is that neither 100% sure to work properly within 30 metres.....as declared to be effective within 50....and all engagements i had were between 5 and 20 metres..... So sad... :(

ok, but despite the difference of opinions i hardly believe someone make his first post right here with less than an entire line about his feedback about a shotgun...

First post and right on this topic with such a stupid reply? A fake want to defend his business and not looking forward to the problem of the game

What the hell! 1 vote on the feedback? What's wrong with those guys that answered like something wrong about it. I don't trust any word to those I've killed a guys on close range and bla bla...all excuses to watch your business instead of a constructive idea. My mate used the sawn off version, me aswell and nobody has died close to 1 feet with both shoots. All your thoughts are fantasy! Hell no! I don't want to have new weapons, if first of all those are in the game have to be fixed

If some of us had that luck...was just about luck Me and my teammate we tryed both versions...he runs with mosin and sawed off for indoors....me Double Barrel as a main gun 2 days ago i've put both the barrells into the stomach of a military guy and shoot both sheels, right that enough to make blow out the beans on his stomach from lunch....he survived and killed me ....and i've did the ambush from inside an Hangar in the Airfield

Doesn't work properly even indoors...trust me....I've tested out this weapon on any kind of guys everyyyytime that now i realize a water gun is more effective. Maibe a sporter 22 aswell!

Even if the SKS has higher damage and more accuracy than the M4, The second one is domining over all weapon on the game exept the Mosin in very long range situations. Acog sights has longer view than 3.5 zoom of the SKS, allowing you to take better the aim and focusing better over the distance. Plus, you can spray and pray on close range. The problem is not about SKS and M4....but fixing the other weapons, making them more populars among players. Game is all based on: Let's go to a military base and take an OD backpack and an M4. I want military nuts being knock down by shotgun with one shot if hit on the body at 5 metres.....I can't see people dieing at the third shoot. There's no comparision about the amout of damage inflicted on real life by a single shoot 5.56 on close range, to a shotgun when hit a poor without a kevlar.

NOPE....OP! One thing might be appreciated instead it's a tag that records the longest time you survived and total hours played. It saves your top records kills, handcuffs etc.... So that a screen about that can be taken and put on our signature... and....why not, after that with some roleplay we place some bountyes above our heads to make some roleplay :)

As much I play, as much i realize that actually whole game is based on "i go to military base and loot something, then i'm good to go". When this happens? on low population server, by hopping server by server to try to find out something. After that, most of the players have these 2 weapons: -M4 -Mosin Mosin require some skill to use it, because it's a bolt action rifle that is very limited on close quarter battles. And sometime you have to hit twice to kill someone....sometime more, but its LRS justify all its disadvantages. M4....M4 is pretty annoying and frustrating. Most of the people i've got to deal with on firefights are military with M4. It's the only weapon that you can "SPRAY AND PRAY" This is not problem of the weapon itself....probably by adding in a near future more weapons, the magazines or tools you need will be more rare to loot but... The problem about this weapon is OP, it's because the others can't deal with it. People lean out from a wall and shoot you an entire magazine, while you do hit him twice with a "BOOMSTICK" and he's still alive! Using a weapon that require more determination and cold blood can't stand a SPRAY AND PRAY weapon if the DAMAGE CHARTS aren't properly done. Double Barrell Shotgun, Double barrel Sawed off version, the Blaze 95, Sporter 22 shall be revisited on Damage Charts - Double barrell, the weapon i like, i've realized after killing around 30 people with it, that is not a guarranty even on close range. Sometime i've killed one with 1 hit but naked.....but some with few dress needed 2-3 shoots on a range of 5 metres. -Sawed Off version: 2 Days ago i've used it on the night in a military base, inside the prison. A guy came nearby the bed and it was dark...i've shoot him all 2 shots from 0,001 metres and he was still alive but crawling, broken leg -Blaze, without a LRS it is needed a little bit more skill as you do only have 2 shoots. A week ago i've shoot a guy at 100 metres. 1 hit, broken leg...2 hit, still alive but hit....a couple more of miss the the third hit and he was dead. And close range? Pray you won't need to reload! -Sporter 22. ....My god, i understand it's a .22 but right yesterday i've got killed by 2 military with M4 and....Alone with my efforts i killed one of them by shooting some hits on the body and the remaining on the leg...I've shoot around 30 hit on that guy, plus other 10-15 missing hits. The second one killed me, but i've broken him bleeding before going in hell. Simonov is ok, as its magazine is 10 and it's semi-auto Damage of the pellets on the shotgun, the blaze and sporter 22 damage must be increased, to make these weapons more popular among users and being able to counter guys that spends their time only on "Go to military base, then KOS". I would like to stay on the gates of a base and selling tickets for all the people are going to! -.-

-Now shotgun is made only for breaking legs, and the neither 2 shots from 10 metres it is sure to kill. -Sporter nearly not doing damage And i'm surprised we've got a guy comparing this game with BF4.....Ok: Opinions are like balls, everyone has theirs. But excluding people having a mosin, i'm sure 80% people have an M4 because of reiability, versatility.....20-30 bullets per magazine at least, accuracy till mid range, automatic fire and moderate damage. Who can deal with it if other weapons are broken? Hell no! If you spend hours to get an m4 by going to a military base it is your business....If i have a shotgun i kill you in less than a second right when you cross the corner. This as in any game, this as in real life. M4 is OP not because of its damage, range, or else....but the other weapons aren't well fixed. Maibe most of the people here don't know a thing about the .22 on real life. The 22 lr caliber can cause fatal damage because of it relatively low velocity it does not have the power to pierce or lodge into bone, so it bounces around doing extensive damage to soft tissue, at point blank range can be lethal. Despite of other calibers superior to 9mm and they all exit from the body....the .22 stays inside your body and it's gonna be real troubles Bobby kennedy has been killed by a .22

Without mention the sporter...trying to kill someone on military loot it's nearly impossible...around 30 hits? i'm rushing with an axe :P Blazer, and shotguns as i said need more determination and cold blood before shooting, like Mosin on long rage. Same thing....with the difference that if you miss a shot a mosin....before the guy understands where at you will probably die....While with close range weapons, the choices aren't that much. And we aren't talking about "missing the target"....we are talking about damage inflict :(

www.vg247.com/2014/01/25/steam-users-can-now-cancel-pre-ordered-titles-refund-will-be-deposited-into-steam-wallet/ Will dayz devs will do the same if project will stop? let's say the gameWILL NOT STOP developing but...imagine that, try to imagine that, or let's suppose that game won't come out. People will be refund? Or partially refund? If YES why? if NOT why?

The point is, before that we will play other survival games, even those that still have to be announced! Those games that will blow out our heads... and we will migrate to them. If this happens they will be happy, because they will stop the project for sure. Many money have been already earned, and they justify themselves by the announce "I DON'T SUGGEST TO BUY IT" As i already said to another guy: If they developed their efforts through the money got from DAYZ Mod i do hardly beleive that for over 2 years those founds where enough to came at this status. Off course: If they never had pre-sold the actually status of the game they would never came at this point. I'm cynical, and my cynisism never failed to judge. My opinion is: "Business are business. Even if we are talking about a game, an entertainment. A project can be stop anytime. Without any morality or obligation...Business are business"

Another thing to fixing? The game is whole festival of M4 Mosin is pretty common aswell but need a little more skill and suffer on close range. But M4 is Spray and pray....everyone lean out and spamm with it....And dozens of time i've placed all my 2 hits with double barrel shotgun within 5 metres and didn't killed the target made me angry Weapons' damage charts must be fixed! -Blaze shall inflict more damage than a mosin to balance it and let people choose by his playstile and role It has ammo and require a little bit more skill to use it! -IZH 43 damage for each pellet is tremendously low. This is justified by the fact of the many times i've hit someone on close range and didn't killed with both shoots! running with the fists is more effective then! - .22 weapons does not inflict enough damage: Today, alone i've killed 2 military with a Sporter, I quite did it alone even if they had M4s....I killed the first with around 20 hits, plus around other 30 missed hits. Most of the shoot have been made to the legs, to trying to stop him at least. But i've killed him before breaking a leg. The second one got me but before die i've made him bleed. it's frustrating. Quite everyone military Quite everyone M4 and helmet. Spray and Pray....bha, annoying! Go to play Arma2 or arma 3 instead! WTF?!

In a potential apocalipse we are living/playing i pretty find unbeleivable that any survivor has a rifle on his back. Seems handguns have a limited use on the game. Bacause within 10-15 mins you start a new game and a new char, you do already know where to go and one of the first thing you are going to loot it's gonna be a rifle. Even if it is a shotgun, an m4 or a mosin. I would suggest to reduce all rifles loot and increase a little bit magazines and pistol loots. everyone has a rifle on his back. Any videogame you start to play you don't start with the rifle or the shotgun (exept Quake 1 LOL ? ) . Most of the game you do start with your own fists or an handgun. If more weapons will be implemented, probably someone will start with a bazooka within 10 mins -.-

If you think my thread is funny, then explain me the logic to find nowhere a handgun and, as someone happens, you go inside a Fire Station and there's 3 handguns none with magazines. Or a Military DPM Jacket inside a Fire station.....Or you do go inside a School and you find an M4. Otherwise An Epinephrine inside a restaurant. What's the sense of find these things on these place I really don't know. Spawn are random but BADLY made! As said from a guy above: 90% of times Piano House has a "Rifle" inside. Why never an Handgun? Give me it also without magazine i don't care! For me will means hardly to survive and to search my stuff... Right now everyone has a rifle and ready to go within 15 mins! Because exept M4 all rifle don't need magazines and don't take space from you inventory, you do just put your bullets inside! Explain me how it is possible otherwise I'll say an "AH-AH" to you....