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MetalSpoon
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If you are still reading this, one final (pro***ly) question. Would this setup be able to run BF4 or crysis 3? Even on low?
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Emm i'd be looking at a minimum of 250 GB
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So my plan in general sounds solid?
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Beautiful isn't it but at the end you said APU did you mean GPU as in a dedicated video card like the 650Ti? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133473 < that's the one I have it's Lifetime warranty. I think i linked the Canadian priced eariler or maybe the Ti Boost but i don't have the Boost just the 650Ti 1GB you might want a 2GB model but i suggest PNY for lifetime warranties.
I guess we'll see. If the processor is still good but the GPU is outdated, then i will get a dedicated one.
If they are both old then to hell with it, get a new APU
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that's correct that is the exact APU that I am currently typing to you on ^-^
This chipset which are feature sets and instruction sets
Bolton is a newer chipset better instructions and features more stable like when the xbox came out the red ring but that was fixed with the xbox slims kinda thing right
here is a Bolton chipset for $79 which is still good enough i just threw the $90 one becuase you prefer mid range performance over lowend and don't need highend so i gave you a mid range price but the $79 should theoretically be the same quality for what you need
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132045
Oh I didnt actually realize that motherboard affected performance that much, I figured it just connected everything.
So if I was to do this now, I would pro***ly go with...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113333 APU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104384 RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132045 Motherboard.
For a grand total of ~$250. Not bad at all.
then I would upgrade in this order
PSU to the one you said
RAM to 8 GB
Motherboard to something better
SSD
APU
Go from there
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that's correct that is the exact APU that I am currently typing to you on ^-^
Ahh cool. I edited my last post (:
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Oh so the one you sent me (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113333) is good because it's a Richland?
Oh ok nice! And also, whats the difference between the $90 Motherboard and the $57 one? I only need 3 USB's (Joystick, Mouse, Keyboard), and I don't use all ya'lls fancy stuff
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4GB should be fine for most things but if you plan to record at the same time the extra 4GB will help oh it doesn't support the A8?
give me a minute to research a bit I will edit.
Yeah, I'm not sure, remember I'm a hardware newb. If you could do that I would much appreciate it
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you need to find that out for you self but if it's 2GB i don't think DDR3 comes in 2GB sticks
install this program http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.68-setup-en.exe
don't just trust my link read up on it here http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
it will tell you what type of memory you have... actually i'll just check your motherboard wait for an edit...
YES your psu will run the motherboard/apu/ram/hdd currently but upgrade before or when you get a dedicated video card
M'kay cool. Also, with that motherboard you posted, it seems people are complaining it does not support Kaveri/APU. Is this the case? If it does not support the A8 I want nothing of it
Edit: For your ram edit, that makes sense. Will I notice much difference between 4 and 8 GB if I was to do that? On my current setup with 6gb I run TS, facebook, Stream music and play games (BFP4F/World Of tanks atm) and it seems fine
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I have never used such type of adapter but if it works then it will do as a temporary fix yes.
(this is your power supplies connectores)
1 x Main connector (20+4Pin) < yes perfect
1 x 4-Pin ATX 12V < will work but better if you have the 2x4-pin 12V but not NEEDED
6 x Peripheral < IDE power
4 x SATA < SSD and sata power
1 x Floppy < who uses this anymore :P but your adapter will need this
1 x PCI-E < the GTX 650Ti needs this BUT
I think you need a 500W PSU for the 650Ti and yours is a 430W
I recommend this if you plan to upgrade it at all
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3SD1AN2222 500W (The price on the website i think is 100% inaccurate and I'll explain why in Canada that PSU is $49+tax and it's marked on newegg as $200.00 discounted to $67.41 Save: $132.59 (66%) and YET the 600W version is only $64.... no discount just $64 even so i think someone was not paying attention to what they input for the 500W but either way I recommend the 500W or the 600W i run both I have 2 of each and have sold many computers with then they are stable and supply very very stable voltage and and many fault protections built in. Just to reference here is the link to the 600W to compare the price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153166 )
when dealing with power I will NEVER sell an uneven amount of watts 400 - 450 - 500 - 550 etc never a 430 475 etc it just doesn't sound stable to be that they couldn't even it out .
Wow thanks! Will my PSU right now run it, or will I need to upgrade? I don't mind if it's not perfect, my current setup is much less then perfect.
Also, would my wonderful 2 GB of corsair ram run until I can buy the 8GB, or is it incompatiable? If I could save that $90 on ram, I could practically buy this tomorrow.
EDIT: Also how can I identify if X part will work with Y part (Motherboard is the big one). I have some friends who have spare gaming stuff, and I would like to sound less stupid if I ask them if they have anything they could send my way
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Read up ^ about the HDD
well currently I can't even record dayZ with a steady fps due to all the lack of optimization but I am also trying to record at 1080p quality and at full gfx :) but I have not actually tried to record with the integrated GPU i can't see it being bad though esp with graphics dumbed down, just make sure you install the AMD Catalyst drivers for the GPU to make sure you get maximum performance from your GPU
Cool, sounds good. Read up for my IDE question^^^
So basically what I'm getting out of this is for ~$300 I can make a computer that runs basically any game at at least 25-30 fps, at least on minimum?
Also, is the PSU i posted on the other page compatiable with this setup?
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That's there plan pretty much! and if you get the supporting video card you can even crossfire to use the resources of both the integrated and dedicated.
well with my A8 5600k I was able to play APB:R (which has a lot of custom logo/gfx constantly loading for each player and there car) plays great on high with minor jitter but I would recommend medium for optimal performance and low for great performance
the reasoning it plays decent on high is because it has a shorter path to talk with the CPU and the memory being built in to the CPU and beside the memory
Nice! and for the HDD?
And will this setup allow me to record dayz at low/med and 30 FPS? that would rock
And it is IDE, but I might invest in this for now, $12 isn't much, and i'll upgrade to SSD after a while
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The APU's (CPU/GPU) are the future of AMD's product line they will do everything you need and then some I'm an AMD Fanboy and have supported them since early 2000 esp when they are the creators of the 64bit architecture and intel had to fake it for years to even try and compete. also intel had to fake the multi cores where AMD was true multi cores first as well (for consumer based systems)
Yes when you save money for a dedicated gfx card you just plop it in and install the Drivers and away you go
Nifty, so are they going to move on slowly and make super hardcore, like top of the line processors and GPU's together?
What would you say I would run this game at with that setup?
EDIT: It currenty has a WD2500, nothing special, but it has true win7 on it which is a plus. Is that compatiable with the motherobard?
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Edited my post to prevent double posted sorry! the intergated to the CPU is all AMD is doing from now on it's the only option as they are canning there AM3 lines as they do not and will NEVER support PCI-E 3.0 but the APU chipsets FM2 do...
The intergrated GPU in the APU (Advanced Processing Unit CPU/GPU) is an AMD Radeon HD 8570D which is a gaming gpu mid grade
So would it almost be better to switch over to i3/i5 or and Nvidia? Or would this work for long in the future?
Also, I'm stupid. So essentially, if I bought the three things you posted, I could slap (well, not exactly) them in, and run most/all games at respectable settings?
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well then your in luck scratch the 650Ti save yourself $150 and use the A8's bulit in GPU becuase it's a CPU/GPU in one and that will let you play on med/high easy as I could play APB:R on med high with minor stutter when on high
I'm not sure if I want to do a integrated type thing. Could you link me to one of these A8s?
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I see you linked them to me. I assume, the $120 one is the best one. Say I don't like the integrated graphics and later I want to upgrade, does it have PCI x16 (?) so I can put say a 650 or 750 TI in it?
Also, how respectable of a processor is it on its own, without the GPU
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Wow Im blind, I see you posted some RAM and Motherboard
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OR for $120 + tax you can get an AMD quad core A8 6600k at 3.9GHz /4.4GHz Turbo (keeps it in warranty) with 8GB DDR3 1600MHz for $80ish and a decent FM2 Motherboard for $80/$150 and the 650Ti and everything will be peachy (PNY GTX 650Ti is $149 w/ a lifetime warranty) and that's what I use and well lets say I can play max gfx but it's not optimized yet... but I can also play things like WoW, AA PG, APB:R etc etc all on max gfx with out lag (other then latency of the internet)
in fact both systems in my signature play the game full just the game needs severe optimization.
Thanks for that tip! However I am trying to get away from my old computer. Also, I do not need or really want to play max GFX, I would rather play medium @60-80 vs max @30-40
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I'm so glad you're helping me. If you could bear with me, I will explain what this other computer has
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813123236
Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145026 X4
GFX: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/other/Pages/x1950-specifications.aspx
PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006
And my processor... Ehm Its AMD. I cannot actually plug the computer in to a monitor because cables arent compatiable.
What I'm hoping is I can, at least for right now, get away with only replacing GPU and processor. If that is not the case, please tell me otherwise
But if it is, how would this hold up?
Processor
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0093H8HXS/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0093H8HXS&linkCode=as2&tag=c09_11-20 GPUhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130841
Thoughts?
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You're getting to that stage, yeah. The good news is, some of those parts can be carried over. Hard disks and memory (amusing you're using DDR3)
My advice would be do a staged upgrade: Graphics card now, Motherboard and CPU later if you're short on funds.
If you're building a computer for DayZ right now, I'd highly recommend the r9 270 or 270x and the i5 4670k.
Yeah, I actually already have a "computer". I think it would need a new GFX card, new processor, new RAM, and maybe a new motherboard. I know thats alot, but it saves me good in HDD, PSU, case, and such. What would you suggest for that, on a budget?
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Hmm, I guess Im almost better dropping 400-500 on a new decent comp
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No. If anything your processor would be the weak link in most games, DayZ more so than most.
So that would balance them so they are on the same level?
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Yeah, I do. Idk if I wanna drop 150 though. Would the 750T1 bottleneck my processor?
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CPU should be ok, Not perfect but it's enough to play.
ATI 4200 is an IGP, it's pretty much identical to the HD3200 and the minimum requirement for this game is a HD3830, it isn't even close to fast enough. Drop 750TI or another midrange GPU in that system and it should be pretty good, though.
However, you seem to want to maintain 30FPS at a minimum. Very few people are currently able to do this, given the state of the games optimizations and some issues which I believe are due to be addressed soon.
For comparisons sake.
Both my 955BE @ 3.6GHz, 8Gb of 1333 DDR3 and r9 270 and my friends i5 2500k with a GTX760 drop belove 30 fps, sometimes as far as the low 20s regardless of settings.
Once those issues are fixed, I'd amuse your current CPU and RAM will be enough for a decent gaming experience with a new graphics card fitted, but that's mostly guesswork and speculation if I'm honest. If you're not willing to accept poor FPS currently, you have very little choice but not to play till the game is in a more complete state.
So I can buy that GFX card even tho i have integrated?
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But I can for sure run min at decent FPS? Wanna know before dropping the cash
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Anyone know if I can run the game with good FPS?
You should be good, take me with a grain of salt.
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I know I can run it, but do ya'll think I can either max it or run low/med and record/stream?