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That sounds like some fun gameplay right there...run around and loot and do a bunch of stuff while hardly ever interacting with players.

It's useless because it's drawbacks outweigh any of the positive features. Sure it shoots 7.62, but why use that rather than a mosin. You can't even remove the scope on the longhorn to use the iron sights, and who on earth would rather have a gun you have to manually chamber each shot that a boly action rifle with 5 shots? I mean that's cool and all that you have killed 7 people with it and everything. Wanna cookie? I'm sure someone has managed to kill somebody with the MP5 and that thing is absolute garbage. Just because you have killed someone with a shitty gun does not make it...not...a shitty gun

Well most of the servers I played on I was encountering all kinds of action across every town in Chernaurus. Most of the action was obviously centered around the coast towns at times, but that's the dev team's own fault for not realizing the practicality of spreading out spawn locations from the coast at the time. And honestly, at that stage in the game's development, when you could gear out in less than an hour, what else was there to do but go interact with other players and find the biggest hot spot of action? What else are you gonna do, run around and collect more pristine bananas?

I still have had multiple instances of zombies running through fences. You're lucky.

Idk I just feel that high pop servers will create that separation out of necessity, which as we all know is the mother of invention

You'd think by now they'd run around them lol but no...they still are quite fond of running through them

well technically because of the disparity of the low-quality graphics and high-quality graphics settings, you will never really be safe hiding in either. However, I don't think I have ever had an issue with telling whether or not a tree or bush will conceal me...I mean I think we've all played regular enough to know when we're concealed in a bush, and how to hide in a pine tree. Idk I can't really relate to the whole situational awareness thing because I personally have never had a problem with it, so I can't really comment on that. However, I don't see them implementing any change in the 3pp camera mode that will "improve it". It's always going to create imbalances in combat scenarios and won't ever exist without such imbalances, ever. Because most of the kids gotta have their corner peaks and "wall hax". I'm all for making 3pp like fallout 3 style 3pp and removing 1pp. Because I mean everyone in regular is all about 3pp, so leave 3pp in regular, and 1pp in hardcore. simple as that Yes, discourse, debate, discussion, and argument are all BAD! BAD!!!! love it

I mean you can't put it in a holster, it's obsolete as soon as you find a rifle, and is a chambered 1 shot...and in a game where you can hit someone with the mosin up to 3 times before they die, yeah...it's kind of useless. Oh but it has a scope...woohoo...

...okay...and? What's you're point? That's nothing that the Devs can control, and is outside of the game. Please stop trying to counter argue that 3pp is "balanced". Just....please... Holy shit we're not trying to say it needs to be changed... And what "tweaking" with the 3pp camera will stop the imbalance of corner peaking and seeing over walls? Seriously. What, are they going to do a "Fog of war" or something depending on your 1pp camera? Yeah I'm sure that's going to happen never lol.

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The longhorn is hilariously useless.

I think if you removed 1pp ADS from regular (fallout 3 style), you'd see a hilarious number of people switch to HX servers. Fair enough, good sir.

We have given you multiple illustrations on how it is unbalanced, and you still refuse to see the logic in it. seriously...you CAN NOT ARGUE with the fact that 3pp is unbalanced. IT IS. It just is. You're just making yourself look even more unable to be taken seriously by denying this simple fact. It's not a fact that is an ultimatum to the discussion of the differences of the perspectives, but vital in the understanding of it. There is an unbalance that exists in 3pp. That's all you have to understand. It's not hard lol.. edit: yeeeah but you don't have to interact with most of them, per say. Just get some bodies in there to populate the HC servers

Okay well the Colts being the best football team out there is a fact for me at the beginning of every season until they either A: don't make it to the playoffs, or B: don't win the superbowl. And the best part about it is, once the season is over, and then the drafts pick up, it's another opportunity to believe it again, because it's a whole different team and a whole new season :) However, 1pp for me is definitely an opinion, but it is an opinion worth discussing and worth sharing with other people, because I want everyone to experience 1pp and feel about it the same way I do, because it's awesome, and makes the game awesome! my goal in this discussion is to win over as many people and refute the idea that 3pp is the "better" "ideal" "whatever you want to call it playstyle", because dangit I want to play with ALL OF YOU ON HARDCORE.

I completely agree, however, the issue is balancing what is still fun for gameplay, and what is still challenging at the same time. I am not for an "easy mode". I think it's ridiculous as well that I can run for extended distances, but I don't want my player to be "realistic" in the sense that he has to stop, put his hand up to the camera (or whatever) and tell me intermittently between pants that he needs a minute, sits down, drinks some water, takes his shoes off and rubs his feet, then takes a nap. See what I'm saying? lol :D

Well when I say "The Colts are the best football team out there" I don't have to follow it up with "In my opinion" because logic and reason states that in the context, the subjectivity is inherently implied. Interesting your sudden change in a tone... And what is with you people thinking that trying to convince someone of a point of view is silly? That's not my whole purpose and reason to be here, but I'm not going to pretend like I don't have something to say about it. Another example of this whole idea of "trying to convince people of your point of view and get them on your side is WRONG! Have NO opinion and be indifferent! It's the easiest way" I mean if you want to be indifferent and have no opinion on the matter, fine. But it's kind of ridiculous to call someone's attempts of having a logical discourse about something to attempt a persuasion of views "silly". I have a viewpoint I feel strongly about and will engage in discussion with someone about it to find the best solution, because through such discourse, we come to ultimate conclusions and better ourselves and our opinions, or come to learn new things. Or sometimes it turns into a flame war...guilty of it on occasion, but that isn't going to dissuade me from trying.

What you mean to tell me republicans AND democrats and citizens of all colors and creeds alike weren't hellbent on retaliation and war at the time? Don't answer that, you're arguing with history. Don't drink the Koolaid, exec ;) If you'd like to message me we can have a discussion about it, but until then, I'm already on the admin watchlist lol, and can't afford another topic derail today And on THAT note, back on topic :) I will have to say, I do love the cowboy look though. I'm a fan of the plaid shirt, leather shoes, cowboy hat look, but recently I've adopted the "Prohibition New Yorker" look. Flat cap, with black leather shoes, a courier bag with any combination of matching shirt, really. I look super non-bandity, but in this game it doesn't really matter how you look I guess

exactly. To a reasonable amount. The "unreasonable" amount you're referring to is what's called realism :P I think you don't realize that we agree to a great extent lol

False. If you approach a point of view with a closed mind and are not open to discussion, yes, convincing someone of your point of view is impossible. However, please don't try to project your close minded-ness on me. I have also been playing 3pp lately and enjoy it, but 1pp is a better play style, and I am willing to engage in a discussion about why it is or isn't, and I am willing to admit I am wrong if presented with logical, thought out, passionate information to the contrary. Preference and opinion =/= there is no discussion to be had. See? This is the kind of indoctrination I was talking about previously lol.

Well at the game's current state, with 40 player servers, I already feel that there are too many towns. It has been so boring for the past 3 days, running to every town, every airfield, finding MAYBE 3 or 4 players to interact with over the course of that time. I'm sorry but it was never better than when we had the high-pop experimentals. Loot was hard to find, it FORCED you to go to other cities to find loot, ALL over the map, and for those who wanted combat (because let's be honest, that and random player encounters are the most exciting thing in the game at the moment.) could find it. The survivor, as well as the fighter, were both appeased. And as for altering the map to FORCE players to change their playstyle? Not so much for that. I'm all about free-market gaming. Let the people play the way they wanna play. You can maybe nudge them in a certain direction, but if 95% of the people are going to hang around an airfield, berezino, or one spot whatever it may be, obviously they WANT to be there, so I don't see why a dev would force them to do the contrary. That's why I'm a fan of the experimental high-pops. Players will go where the situation dictates they go based on their needs, rather than on the 40 person servers now where everyone is just running around praying to God that they see someone because for the last four hours all they had seen was a pig and a zombie, because right now the end-game is pretty horrendous lol

No worries sir :D

I could do without ambient noises that make no sense. I'm all for ambient noise, but please don't give me a chainlink-fence noise when I'm running through a field. It's just such a dissolution of my environmental immersion when that stuff happens.

and this is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about that makes discussions like these impossible sometimes lol. Did you even read my post? I bet you didn't, did you...our goal is not to shame you into playing 1pp. We are trying to present our argument in a logical fashion as to convince people that 1pp is the ideal playstyle...is this an issue? Clearly, because you seem to be taking this a bit personally.

looooool win

I guess just handcuff them so they can't logout? idk. I guess you'll have to count on their desire to not combat-log and die from sitting on the ground for 30 seconds. Wait...why do you need to steal someone's blood on a PvE server....doesn't that defeat the purpose of a PvE server? Not that the idea of a PvE server isn't already preposterous to me anyway lol edit: Yeah we hosted an Altis Life server on Arma 3 for a while and our lead coder headed the work on several scripts that prevented you from logging out while restrained, or after you have fired your weapon. After firing your weapon you had to wait 60 seconds, and while restrained you could not access the escape menu's functions. I think it took less than a few hours for us to code it and test it? Not that hard :/ just sayin....