Martmital

I'm guessing not very long. I rarely win anything, so I'm doubtful I'll win the apocalypse.

Wheres the hypocrisy in what you quoted?

After many years of playing proper Fallout listening to this album this song always reminds me of an apocalypse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuAU6y79cs

Properly in a corner? Surely the same as sticking out, but just worded differently. You do realise that just because you are able to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. Once again the logic of not being able to see things is brought to the table. If you don't like the fact you can see things you can't/shouldn't be able to see, then this mod isn't the answer. You can still see the terrain, you can still plan your route without peeking, only thing you can't see is a zombie or a player. Which 9/10 times ain't on the other side anyway.

So it's fine to exploit it to make sure your not sticking out of cover? We all use 1PP for aiming seeing as when you go into aim mode it automatically takes you there.

Then it's fine for me to label all 1PP players as whiners. Would you actually use the 3PP view or would you continue to use 1PP?

I have no issues with either view point, IF they bring it in I will continue to use 3PP, switching to 1PP when needed. Drinking from ponds, looting those hard to reach places and looking under beds... Where did I claim that all those in favour are '1PPers'? Also where was the insult? Those I was addressing and comparing to KoS, humanity system whiners ARE self confessed 1PPers, they are just as militant and narrow minded in their views regarding 'how to play DayZ properly'. Not everyone against the idea is a 3PP player either. Some 1PPers understand that a fix to the 'problem' already exists. It's fine for people to label all 3PPers into the crutch needers, cheaters and exploiters group, right though?

Had it been implemented from day one people would have adapted to it. But it wasn't. Probably because in practice it's not very pleasing for numerous reasons. 3PP players are not calling for view preferences to be altered, we accept and adapt to what is put in front of us. We don't need to justify anything. Those wanting to change something are those that have to justify it. You don't like the way 3PP is played, people understand that. Even the devs understood it enough to pander to you and give you separate hives, yet still you require more. Seriously, you 1PPers are getting on par with the KoS and the Humanity System whiners...

Limit the number of servers, up the number of players to something stupid like 500 players, it'll be about nothing other than surviving!

Doing the backwards and forwards dance trying to gain access to the ladder so I could get down...

But in 1PP you wouldn't be able to see them, so surely I would be getting an advantage over you by being able to see the landscape ahead of me. I may not be able to see a player or zombies, but I could take my sweet time scanning the terrain and planning my route ahead. I have a problem with the logic you are using, nothing else. The whole, 'I can't see you so you shouldn't be able to see me, but seeing everything else around me is fine' argument you guys use. Even with this, 3PP has advantages. You have dedicated servers so you cannot be seen i which everyone is stuck in the same view, I don't get why you even care about a feature you don't use. If the 1PP servers were full with players, would you even care about this feature? Either accept the way 3PP is played and adapt, play in 1PP only servers and promote them to others or quit playing.

By that logic, none of the environment should be seen either. Picking and choosing to please a small minority of players is not the way to solve any issue. Most of you raging about the 'exploit' don't even use 3PP, so why join a 3PP enabled server? Oh, that's right, the 1.7m players have resoundingly chosen to play with a choice of view available to them and you are 'forced' to play in 'broken' 3PP servers with the rest of us. If you can't get used to and accept the fact that you may be seen at any time anywhere in DayZ and rely on the fact you are harder to spot, then maybe this game isn't for you.

If the 1PP cry babies spent more time in game rather then spending it on the forums, maybe they would have full servers.

He was being sarcastic... I hope.

My mate had to clear his local files, reinstall DayZ and then BE sorted itself out and he got into and stayed on servers. Probably an easier way around it but it worked.

Tell you what, rather than just throw out generalisations, show me proof that there are 3PP enabled games that have this seamless feature. Epoch is a mod of a mod. Who cares? The key thing here, is that the player base had a choice, the fact it is a popular mod of the mod means it caters for a certain player. When and if the SA gets opened up to modders, let them and server owners implement stuff such as this. Choice is often underrated. If this 'fix' is as popular as you think it is then you have plenty of people to play with and can stop crying those lonely tears that only 'hardcore gamers' can produce.

I tried to be a hero last night... failed, pretty hard. Ran into the Power Station at Elektro to be greeted by M4 fire and 2 freshies running round like mad heads yelling about some 'M4 Guy on the hill'. I thought it was my time to shine, my time to be forever remembered in these players minds. So, in my best hero voice I yell, 'Don't worry, I will save you'. Only to end up getting spooked and shooting the shit out of everyone. In my defence, I was confused and pumped up on adrenalin. So, to the Fresh Spawn who looted my knocked out mate, sorry bro, I had no idea you had armed yourself. Also, Mr Green Taloon backpack Man, I didn't realise you had come to our assistance. My bad. Mr White T-Shirt Fresh Spawn, I was panicking and scared, there was really no reason to gun you down. Sorry. If it's any consolation to you guys, after my killing spree I climbed the smoke tower only to fall to my death and got a Berezino respawn.

How naive... people have been demanding zombies are shown some attention. They sort out a quick fix to the problem and people just complained about the new stuff. Same as would happen for this 'issue'.

What this really comes down to, is people crying because they lose their characters more often on 3PP servers and rather than accepting the Golden Rule of DayZ, they would rather spoil a vast majority of players experience. Most don't actually see it as broken, most don't believe it is cheating either. There is over 1.7 million players, yet 1PP servers are dead. That says a lot of things to me. As I've said in many threads of this issue, I'd be totally ok if they took away my 'Magical Eye'. The only issue here for a lot of the predominantly 3PP players is the popping in and out of view and how you could get that to work so it looks and feels right.

They are just lonely people, they are hoping that if they whine loud enough and long enough more people will play with them.

That is a lie, I have had em spawn right in front of me on numerous occasions.

Ah, you are one of them guys... it all starts to make sense now. Surely playing only in 1PP in a 3PP server, with all the cheating and the glitches and the expoliting, is the measure of a real hardcore player.

Helicopters, planes and even cars at times, are nothing more than another way for me to die.

What irks me is that even if you kill one of the buggers, his mate spawns in 5m away from you. Oh, that and the fact the one 50m away gives not a single fuck to your presence, yet the one thats 200m away ends up chasing you all over the map. Not to mention the fear of now logging out 'did I lose that zombie, have I aggro'd another one' and the fear of logging in only to find a gang of em slapping you like you would a ginger step-child. Even in the safety of the middle of a forest. Apart from that they are still the same non-entity they have always been.

Reasons why I will kill you: You are American You are French You have an annoying voice You have yet to reach puberty You startle me You are entering a good loot spawn area You are leaving a good loot spawn area You are role playing You are not role playing You have misplaced your trousers You are the Caucasian avatar You are the African avatar You are the Asian avatar I like your backpack You are a stranger I like your weapon You have fancy shoes I consider you a 'bandit' I consider you a 'hero' Your hat would look better on me You are on my team I am hungry You stand too close to me You ask stupid questions I need a battery It's your first time playing the game it's your 900th hour of playing the game I'm bored I feel like being a bastard Reasons I won't kill you: I have no ammo You just saved my arse You have a cool voice I haven't seen you I'm a terrible shot