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Update #3 (16/01/14 17:45 UTC): Battleye Devs made further changes yesterday and we are still looking for specfific feedback on your desync issue. Battleye will have a client update coming soon regarding this issue. Please post confirming what your situaution is, What fixes you think have fixed your issue and also how long you have been playing since using a fix without issue. The issue is by far fixed and we are yet to see or hear from the DayZ Dev's regarding this issue as there are a few cause which is their problem. I understand that some of you despite all the fixes/workarounds here are still experiencing the issue from an unknown cause. Togther as a community hopefully we can help the best we can. A patch for DayZ is defiantely required that puts some focus on this issue and hopefully that will come soon. I look forward to seeing if the battleye update will have any impact for those of you still struggling with the issue. Please keep the feedback and suggestions Coming. Thank You! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update #2 (14/01/14 15:40 UTC): Battleye Devs have made changes this morning (14/01/14). Please post feedback in this thread regarding if you are still experieicng the issue (http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/164323-update-141-player-proximity-desync-issue-possible-solutions/page-2#entry1666448). Also remeber that there has been a few reports of issues with protector cases and ammo boxes causing the desync issue aswell which when gotten rid of things work as normal. Also, many people completely uninstalling AVG (NOT DISABLING) and then restarting their PC is also fixing the issue for some. It apeears with one or a combination of the above the issue is disappearing but please post confirming what your situaution is, What fixes you think have fixed your issue and also how long you have been playing since using a fix without issue. Thank You --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So an update: The last poll (http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/163598-friendplayer-proximity-desync-issue-need-your-help-to-find-the-solution/) has been a success and has ruled out all my intial theories. However thanks to the community i thought we had made major progress in finding the cause but a few poeple are now starting to cast doubt on this too but im still going with this theory. We again require help by answering some more poll questions to hopefully get closer to some confirmations of cause and solution. Cause: Most likely, An issue with Battleye, which somehow causes certain Players (Still to determine why only a select few players) to DeSync when a player (and maybe zombies) enter their "network bubble" which is a radius of about 150-200m round the player. This DeSync however affects the players download only meaning other players can still see every movement the affected player takes but the affected player cannot see other players actions or movements (everyone is standing still in the position they were, at the time Desync started). During DeSync the affected player is freely able to move around but will have great difficulty in interacting with the world such as using inventory, openning doors etc. The player will also won't be updated on other player movements. With no players in the "network bubble" desync will stablise after 2-4mins. Battleye has been determined to be the cause due to many of the affected players confirming that all there DeSync issues disappear when playing on the limited amount of Battleye Disabled severs. However, a small number of players are now reporting that they may also have the issue on battleye disabled severs too. My friend who is affected has been playing with me flawlessly on a particular battleye disabled sever (Not experimental build) which has been at times 30-40/40 players for a good amount of time. Solution: Many players have reported various solutions. A member of staff from battleye themselves have posted on the forum denying that battleye has anything to do with the issue, however, they did suggest that people with anti-virus software could be the issue which seemed a highly plausable cause because it would explain why the issue only affected certain players considering different anti-virus companies (Avast, AVG etc) have different databases and methods of dectition some of which could make Battleye or DayZ not work as it should if the anti-virus is interfering. A list of fixes that have worked for atleast one player on their issue: Disabling their anti-virus (IF this works i recommend you explore if you can add scanning exceptions in your software and add the dayz folder or disabling any network traffic scanning.Making tweaks to their network (Router Firewall, Restarting Router etc)Validating dayz files through steam even if it passesComplete re-install of DayzMaking ethernet port adjustmentsSudden miracle (Issue just disappears)Possibly more that i can't remember or findWe are aiming to prove/disprove the following theroies via the poll and your feedback: Battleye is a cause for the DeSync (Whether its beng effected by other prgrams or not)Anti-Virus is a cause (Possibly interfering with battleye for Dayz files) and which particular brands are affectedThe issue is on Battleye servers only and playing battleye disabled servers solves the issue (atleast for those servers)Please answer the polls plus provide as much detail and help as possible via a post especially if your clicking the Other options in the poll and hopefully we are finally getting close to confirming whats going on here. Even if all theories above are disproved it leads us onto more avenues to explore and more polls to be had. Thank You

Edit: New Discussion http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/164323-update-141-player-proximity-desync-issue-possible-solutions/ Hi All, Im looking to help the community solve the recent Player/Friend proximity issue that everyone seems to be having. We may be close to finding the cause but to confirm i need as many people as possible to answer the poll with their location and hardware setup when the issue occured. What is happening: Certain players are complaining that when a player is close to them (generally a friend that they are trying to play with) they find that they are suddenly unable to interact with the world or inventory but can freely move about. During this time the affected players desync is reported to be anywhere from a few hundred to the max of one hundred thousand. In some cases both players have the issue or its just one or the other experincing the problem. Possible Cause: Issue may only occur in certain Cities and within all/certain buildings in that city with player close by (within a 150-200m radius) and only affects those with the bug/issue (How you have this and others don't is unknown at present) Possible Soluton: To aviod these entire cities/area of the city that the problem occurs in until devs can find out whats going on. One of my friends currently has this issue as of 21:00hrs UTC Wednesday 8/01/14 and we have been doing some testing ever since to find out whats going on. We have ruled out the following causes: ISPRouterWIndows FirewallWindows Network SettingsSteam NetworkPlayer being your friend of steamDay ServerloadRecent Steam Update with family sharingUsing the expirmental build of dayzWe have confirmed the following: Occurs on all servers no matter of total/current player countOccurs with all server hostsOnly affects certain players (cause unknown but see below for possible cases)In an example of two players on an empty server, If one player moves away about 150-200m or logs out the server, the player left will find their desync stablise after about 2-4mins and gameplay return to normalWe are aiming to prove/disprove the following theroies: Only certain hardware setups are effected by the bug/issue itself explaining the aparent random selection of people with the issueThe issue only occurs in certain areas of the map (Mainly Cities), A building in Elektro being a known cause for my friend.Moving away from the area/building fixes the issue (Normally about 2-4mins to see effect)Please answer the polls and hopefully we are finally getting close to confirming whats going on here. Even if all theories above are disproved it leads us onto more avenues to explore and more polls to be had. Thank You.

Maybe fix is the wrong word to use. You are right, alot of the solutions such as the Anti-virus and Dropping buggy items are work arounds. Changes made to BE are defo in the right direction of a fix but i don't think we will see a fix until both Dayz and Battleye release patches that target this issue and its causes It would be a safe assumption that if someone says the issue is fixed for them and they don't return to update us then the issue is really fixed for them. Many people only come here when an issue arises but once fixed for their situation they don't come back and probably just play the game until they need help/info again. Your particular issue seems different from the rest. The ping should be spiking, Bandwidth should be falling to very low numbers and your desync rise to 100k.Your ping being low and the same throughout and the high bandwidths suggests you don't have any network issue or anti-virus related issue but something else very much game specfic.

Could i remind everyone that you spawn in with 100k desync which clears shortly afterwards and also throughout your time on the server yourself and other people will experience what i call "natural" desync which: Should last no more than a couple of minutes,Should not happen frequenetly (like every 10min or constant) andYour ping should not spike up from what is normal for you. E.g you get around 20-40 ping on server but you desync for about 15-60 seconds at random but very infrequent and your ping stays at 20-40 during this time.The issue being discussed in this topic is someone who gets a constant 1-100K desync with a spiked ping (Generally 200+) and is unable to see other players movements or intereact with the world. There is plenty of feedback of Anti-Virus removal being a fix so should never be ruled out until tried. People are being affected by different causes no matter how similar your systems are and in many cases it appears that pople have a combination of causes that all need to be resolved before the issue subsides. I still believe we have not found some other causes which are affecting a smaller number of people. Battleye fixes implemented yesterday seem to have fixed the issue for many but by no way means its fixed for all for the combination of issues as ive already mentioned.

Today my freind has not had an issue all day on various servers (30-40/40 players) and by different hosts. If this keeps up along with the positive feedback being recieved here we are close to calling this issue fixed :o. All though i think theres still some work to be done dayz dev side regarding the use of ammo boxes etc.

You have a seperate rubber banding issue not related to the discussion here. However, i can tell you that the developers are aware of your issue and will be fixed in a future patch.

Please read here regarding desync: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/164323-update-141-player-proximity-desync-issue-possible-solutions/ The hotbar has its seperate response issues too but what your describing as a whole sounds like the desync issue.

This issue has been acknowleaged by the devs and a fix will be coming in a future patch.

Please see here: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/164323-update-141-player-proximity-desync-issue-possible-solutions/

Please see here: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/164323-update-141-player-proximity-desync-issue-possible-solutions/ Also, the fact your taking so long to join a server could mean you have ISP/local network problems.

My friends issue has been fixed by sticking to UK Multiplay servers which we started doing yesterday. Joined a non uk multiplay server today with a high ping so we could play with a freind from new zeland who also had a high ping and the game ran prefect for 3 hours the server maxed out with players during this time also. Will try a non multiplay server where we have had issues before and let you know.

I suggest you seach or even just look at the many topics in this section with the word "desync" in it. You will find what's going on and that theres a few plausable fixes but nothing concrete. Devs are aparently aware of the issue and investigating.

There are multiple causes for this issue. One is AVG and uninstalling AVG completely could fix, but there is also some sort of ammo box/p case bug that can cause desync problems. Also, try find out what country servers are on and stick to severs hosted in your country.

Did you try to join a server and it got stuck on please wait or wait for host and would not move on to loading your character? Quite often if you quit the game or cancel the loading while these black screens are there your character will reset. Can also happen randomly or the devs dilebratly clearing characters for balance and security purposes. Its in "Alpha" after all and this a bug that will be fixed eventually.

How long have you played since? We are finding all the fixes are only fixing it for a few hours.

Wow, Such a great response so far. The poll has definetly proven it was nothing to do with your hardware, location on map or if you were in a building or not. There is a new topic with a new poll and updated causes/fixes at http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/164323-update-player-proximity-desync-issue-need-your-help-again/ Here is the lastest possible causes: Battleye and Anti-Virus (AVG is one thats standing out) not playing nice with each otherSome sort of bug with either Ammo Boxes, Protector cases, and First Aid Kits or all of them and the affected players either have these on them or in fact its the players they are close to that are causing the issue for them by having them.General ISP and your own network issues.More on all of this can be found at the new topic and being developed further in the posts being made in it.

Update: Ah dam. To update, i myself removed my ammo box from my backpack took the ammo and joined my friend on a server but this seemed to only fix the issue for a few hours (about 3hrs) then my friend was again badly desynced for a long period. He then uninstalled his AVG completely and lauched the game and this fixed the issue for another few hours but it returned like a pestering wasp wanting food. There seems to be many different causes at play here. I think the current list of the issues is as follows: Battleye and Anti-Virus (AVG is one thats standing out) not playing nice with each otherSome sort of bug with either Ammo Boxes, Protector cases, and First Aid Kits or all of them and the affected players either have these on them or in fact its the players they are close to that are causing the issue for them by having them.General ISP and your own network issues.If any of these are present they seem to cause affected players a high ping (200-999) which in turn leads to desync rising to 100,000 rendering them only able to move and unable to interact with the world. The only true fix for my friend and I and partly suggested in the poll is playing on non Battleye Servers connected to the same public hive and running the same current build. In these servers we have played for over 10 hours without any desync issues (jumping into a battleye server at the time would have caused instant desync), with ammo boxes etc and with 40/40 players. Infact these have provided the best standalone experience since battleye was introduced tbh with some of the best pings ive ever seen for my friends and i in varying locations. It was unfortunate that we have been put off playing on them thanks to being shot through walls in one instance (definate hacker) which is the downside of playing on such servers. This is the sole reason i believe Battleye and/or assosiated files which are removed in non battleye servers is the cause for some people experiencing major desync issues BUT i would like to stress, i don't believe its the same scenario for all players having the desync issue and that the issue might not be the coding of battleye itself but how other programs such as anti-viruses are veiwing/interacting with it. Whats starting to annoy me more than the issue itself is the complete silence from the Dev Team. It dosen't matter if they have a fix or not but atleast telling us they are aware that an issue exsists and are investigating would be great to know.

You appear to have solved my issue!!!!! I dumped my ammo box in a quiet server taking the bullets, then joined the server my friend was on and we are now successsfully playing togther for over 45mins now. Still want to give it longer and do more tests regarding if its just ammo boxes, or med kits and protectors aswell. Thank You for your input!

Exactly what i want to hear. Is there no gaming mode or something similar? I think just adding the DayZ folder as a no scan area (Exception) should do the trick.

Hi Folks, Been working to find a solution to this issue today. Could you please confirm the location(s) that this desync is occuring with your friends? Edit: New Solution finding thread with poll, Please complete the three question poll. http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/163598-friendplayer-proximity-desync-issue-need-your-help-to-find-the-solution/

Can you confirm if there are players nearby at the time? We have noticed that those affected can take some significant time (about 2-4mins) after joining a server for desync to stablise but it won't stablise atall if your constantly close to a player.

Mate of mine has the constant desync but i am completely fine and we play the same servers togther but he did have low graphics settings but turning the settings up to the same as mine did not fix the issue. This issue started affecting my friend about 21:00hrs UTC yesterday (Wednesday) suddenly while playing on a server. This issue has now been constant for my friend since then on many different servers and by different hosts. Through some testing we have found that he is only desyncing when a player is within a certain distance to him. So when i was on the same server as him in the same building, his desync would increase and he would be unable to interact with the world but when i left the server his desync then stablised and he is able to interact with the world. His system is running AMD 8350 and AMD 290. He has had the game since release and this is the first issue he has had with the game (bar rubberbanding etc where everyone was effected) My system which is not affected is an I7-4770K and Nvidia GTX 670. Hope we can work togther to find this issue asap

Mate of mine has the constant desync but i am completely fine and we play the same servers togther but he did have low graphics settings but turning the settings up to the same as mine did not fix the issue. This issue started affecting my friend about 21:00hrs UTC yesterday (Wednesday) suddenly while playing on a server. This issue has now been constant for my friend since then on many different servers and by different hosts. Through some testing we have found that he is only desyncing when a player is within a certain distance to him. So when i was on the same server as him in the same building, his desync would increase and he would be unable to interact with the world but when i left the server his desync then stablised and he is able to interact with the world. His system is running AMD 8350 and AMD 290. He has had the game since release and this is the first issue he has had with the game (bar rubberbanding etc where everyone was effected) My system which is not affected is an I7-4770K and Nvidia GTX 670. Hope we can work togther to find this issue asap