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Fire arms aren't rare as it is in most countries. Add the fact that most people are dead and the fire arms to people ratio is very high. If you are looking for an artificial reduction for some gaming purpose, then reducing ammo drops would be far more logical than reducing fire arms. Likewise, if we are looking exclusively at a gaming perspective, fixing the idiotic melee system would be essential to any reduction in fire arm drops.

I love dropping through stairs. I fell through the stairs on the new Police station, probably ten feet. My heart stopped. I didn't die. Luckily they have reduced falling damage.

Exactly this. There are a few more, but honestly, not enough to even matter yet. They create a slight problem when you are stalking a person, especially when that person knows you are there.

What you playing, Doom? When you have an M4, the only other gun that you can have that offers something advantageous is the Mosin with LRS. ANything else is really just a waste of space.

Yeah, does seem to take the edge of recoil noticeably, but you still need to reacquire your target and pick your shot, so it isn't that much of an improvement.

Oh Dayz, crushing the dreams of overly friendly people who forget that they are playing a game with other people who are holding imaginary guns.

So it has been a month since our last shotgun discussion and I figured we should look back since the last patch tightened up spread, particularly for the sawed off. I am still hearing stories about how poorly they do. First a story of shotgun awesomeness: Yesterday I was practicing a bit with the shotguns (having been gunned down in a failed attempt to be friendly). I tried to talk to and eventually killed a guy with two rounds from the full length shotgun at the construction site in Berezino (after trying to talk to him for a minute and a half and having him pull his SKS). I then moved to the hospital area where I killed an axe wielding nutbag. Last night I meet up with my buddy, who watched the Berezino downtown with his sniper rifle while I bird dogged my way towards him (we spawned at different ends of town. While making my way behind the buildings near the lumber yard, I spotted two fully gear M4 players. One went into the piano building near the garment factory, the other went into that little green and red house next to industrial wall and appeared to be sorting gear. My friend couldn't get line of sight on the house so was moving positions. I killed a zombie, went south to the other piano building to wait for my friend to get a good spot, and eventually headed back out (I didn't really want to risk getting killed by two M4 bandits). When I went back, the gear sorting guy was still there and the other appeared to be in the industrial area. I figured I would take the risk, pulled my sawed off, and made my way to the house. I dumped two rounds into him at around ran off behind the nearby wall, waiting for his partner. I wasn't sure of the result, but assumed he was dead or dying. Sure enough, his buddy came flying in and ran into the back bedroom, pointing his M4 at the door and waiting. For three minutes. My buddy, from his hill, still couldn't get a look at them (this is a good spot to admit he was watching the wrong green and red house which explained a lot). I finally moved closer with my SKS, hoping to just get a headshot through a back window, but none were clear. I swapped to my sawed off, moved to the window to his left, and dumped a single shot into him at 6m. Killing him. So really, this idea that shotguns don't work seems odd. Have you used the shotgun since the most recent patch when they tightened up the spread? The information: So the improvements to sawed off shotguns is immense. Taking the same space as pistols in your pack (1x4 rather than 2x2), combined with being the most lethal weapon under 10m makes them ace for town level warfare, though I suggest you have at least two speed loaders in those cases though. Keep two loose shells in the gun, then reload through the two speed loaders. If the 6 rounds aren't enough break off the fight to reload those and come back for another 6 round shock attack. Also, in most cases, you can fire from the hip, but if you want maximum lethality, aim down the barrel. Sounds strange, since you would think it would be fine to just shoot from 3PP on a shotgun, but trust me, flip it around and shoot normal.

That is the only advantage. The full size gun still has enough spread for close range while keeping a tight enough pattern to be lethal out to 50m. Sawed offs let you use SKS and Mosin while still having a close range option. If you have an M4, you don't need a sawed off unless you are just playing around.

When Dean mentioned the horses I honestly laughed and shook my head. How many months would theyneed to sink in to make a realistic, ridable horse? Only to have it get blasted out from under you by a douchy KOS guy. Well, to be honest, I would love to blast horses out from under people and I don't even KOS. I would do it just because it is so stupid.

Are you trolling? I'm not. Part of the argument against the port seems to be the idea that it can't run on consoles, which isn't accurate. Someone popped in saying that consoles are netbook level, which is ridiculous. If it can run BF4 at 1080p and 40 fps, it can run Dayz.

How is the discussion of console performance off topic for a thread about porting Dayz to consoles? The PS4 and Xbox can run Dayz perfectly well.

You guys are all wet. Lets see how cheap a rig you can make that runs BF4 at 1080 at 40 fps for less that twice the cost of a PS4. Honestly, are we going to have this ridiculous PC elitist talk? Consoles are cheap but get performance well beyond their components due to the ability of programers to modify the games to operate on one single setup.

And yet the Xboxone runs the new Thief at resolutions and FPS that a $1200 computer would struggle with. You are seriously selling console capabilities short here. BF4 run at 40 FPS on a Netbook? Bullshit.

Darkwave, consoles do so well because the developer can optimize for the exact machine, not a thousand combinations like on PC. I just don't thin BI is capable of doing it.

The PS4 can power through 1080p games at 60 fps that require $1500 rigs on the PC. The are fantastic at what they do. Top end machines will look and run better, but you are looking at five times the price. Lets not be silly and act like a poorly written ARMA engine game can't be optimized for console.

I am 36 and play plenty of PS3. Also, the hardware is more than capable of running Dayz. It could make them a ton of money, but Dean is just being Dean. He is clueless as to the realities of development. He says yeah that would be great, but when much better developers than BI and him have tried to get games ported they have failed. The are serious cost to benefit issues and extreme logistical hurdles to overcome.

I shot a guy with my shotgun and he yelled "Seriously dude?" I immediately bandaged him, morphined him, and we parted as friends. I only shot him because I thought he combat logged after I killed his friend. Turned out to be a nice guy. We are Steam friends now. I don't shoot unarmed people and rarely do I shoot anyone who talks to me if they have their gun put away.

I love these topics. First off, with 1.5 million sales, how many hundreds of thousands of players have stopped playing without feeling the need to get a public pity party? Additionally, you can't run around on COD Ghosts trying to kiss other players and get angry when all you get is shot. This is DayZ. It is a post apocalyptic survival game. If someone wants to live and they see you, they might shoot. Why should they do anything else, because you don't want to be shot? I am not knocking your frustration, I am questioning your understanding of the game. Some fool wandering around in the open will be called an idiot by a friendly player (like me), ignored (by me if you are in a public area and I don't want to be exposed), tortured for being too trusting (by an alarmingly large number of players), or just filled with lead (the most likely scenario. I have played entire lives with no guns just to see how long I could survive. I actually lasted three days moving around the coast and Berezino. Now I rarely just walked out and waved my hands. I called out from cover and watched the reaction of the players. People are people, but if you are honest and listen, you can generally tell how things might end. There are few legitimate psychopaths playing this game, so you can appeal to a person as another human. But remember, some people are playing this game for the thrill of the kill, not to talk about their favorite Marvel hero.

Lol well played!

So I was playing on the ARC hardcore server last night (about the unfriendliest folks you could ever meet) and I met a nice new player at the house next the the Berezino train station. In his red helmet and red tee shirt he was a bit obvious. I gave him rice and said if he wanted to talk he could meet me in the copse of trees west of the station. So I walked into the trees and was looking for a nice pine to eat in when I saw a fully geared M4 player standing on the top of the hill in the middle of the trees. I immediately pulled my sawed pff and approached, only after getting within 5 feet did the weapon reload sound play. I put a single round into his back as he began to move. Guilty feeling? No, he shouldn't have been so blasie in that hateful server! I did ruin his shirt, vest, helmet, glasses, and some backpack gear though. I went and found my new spawn friend, led him to the body, and took the M4 and an ammo can for myself. So shotgun is one hit lethal at 10 feet!

When have you seen a horde of zombies in Standalone?

What meltdown did Dean have?

Oh I saw, and I loved. I regretted only having one can of beans to give! Picard is the best. When my buddies and I get something wrong or have a disagreement over something, it is inevitable that someone will do their best Picard impression as they wail their take on the issue.

Exactly. This is why I think Dean leaving is good. The guy has no idea haw to make a finished product. He loves everything but has no clue how to implement it or even why he should.