TimM1983

After reading all 39 pages now I think everything is clear and we just wait for rocket. Most of the 3rd person user admitted this is a cheat / exploit when you are in a combat ( PVP ), but they still want to keep the view for the landscape and character. As a defender of FPV I prefer to have 3rd person without the currently PVP-cheat and everyone is happy, the only people not happy are spoiled kids who want to see 360° over/through walls while ducked behind a window/wall. The only question is: How is rocket and his team going to fix the 3rd person without having a PVP cheat ?

I have been playing 5 times in a row now without a weapon ( just medic + support ) in Cherno. My experience is very bad, I offer food, water etc., talk with them 5-10 minutes and they just punch / hit me down. The friendly engages are very rare. I usually talk to fresh spawns there because I never find full geared people in Cherno. You have any tips as hero / medic, any secret place to walk ? I just don't get these people, why would a group talk with me 5 minutes and just hit me down ? I used to play medic with a gun / weapon and I instantly shot down at anytime. I am not complaining about KOS but seriously fuck this paranoia. I don't have fun walking around killing people but only meeting 3 / 10 friendly people as unarmed medic because they want your loot is sad. Remember: I don't whine about people shooting me, it's part of the game. I am just sad the most people working like that.

Well he is probably right, it's the first game I actually don't take as a game. It's very serious business for me but as long as I don't rage when I die everything is good. DayZ is not just a game for me.

I think reddit is the best place for all information, you get twitter, facebook, russian board feeds etc. www.reddit.com/r/dayz/

Well Rocket is probably not the guy with the last word on the DayZ SA version and his vision was before the last turnover of almost 10.000.000$ just in december ? The company behind him may have other plans and like every company they are about pleasing the majority of players and make more monies. In my case: DayZ SA is the best game of the last 3 years, I will stay what ever they decide to change.

I was one time in the north, got shot after 5 hours of a group who pretended to be friendly. Not going there again.

At least you and some other 3rd person defenders admit this mode in the current form is a cheat. This give me peace. I met several people who thinks this is a valid feature. I like to see my character + the landscape and all the other stuff coming with 3rd person, but 360° Wallhack is not one of them.

I agree to one of the posts here: They will lose sales and player base with forcing "First Person", we have to wait for our first person only servers. The majority want to play the easy survival game and it only counts what the majority wants, not some hardcore gamer. I don't like it but it's something we have to accept. This will never change. Let's just hope they still modify the 3rd person into "less-cheat-mechanic", because that's what it is right now, a cheat, nothing else. Edit: I asked 7 people I usually play with DayZ and 6 of them would stop the game if they force first person. Four of them came from COD and three of them Counter strike. Nobody of them including me played the dayz mod.

Well this is now just my opinion and the most people probably don't like that: I don't want a Quake / Unreal Tournament / Counter Strike / Crisis / whatever engine, it's good when it's clunky, everything feels real, I like the actual game play it keeps a lot of kids away or at least after some weeks they will disappear to COD etc. I can't believe there is a better engine for DayZ. Everything feels to smooth, to fast etc. with the new engines.

There is nothing wrong to like the 3rd person if someone is able to admit why, and you just did that. The most people want a hardcore game with 3rd person while they are not able to admit they only need the 3rd person because they have no feeling for the surrounding terrain. The argumentation "You want to see your character" or "I want to see the landscape" doesn't hold because at least the second part you can do as long you are not holding a 35 slot back, in first person. And for the character part, I like that too... For me it's a solution to keep 3rd person but completely remove the 360* behind/through/over walls vision, this is just wrong. You can sit on the knees at every window for 2 hours watching the whole airfield / forest without being seen by anyone.

I was murdered by at least 10 bambis now in Balota. Someday I will walk around the spawns and go mad for at least 24 hours.

In the future I will just approach the people like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5hgc_eUz2I Then I look more like a trusted person-

We already had a solution for everyone in the other ( big ) thread. It's useless to talk with 3rd person defender because there is no discussion, they want to keep the advantage to see everything 360* everytime and everywhere. A lot of first person defenders offered good solutions. But........ well, talking against walls. The view in 3rd person is.... what the fuck, it makes me sad anyone is supporting this mechanic :( ( It's like a cheat but everyone is able to use this cheat and it encourage camping 24 / 7 behind a wall while he is watching the whole map. )

My rules: 1) No gun at all 2) Only white clothes ( + hunting bag ) 3) ALWAYS run with a medic bag 4) Only sunglasses + a hat 5) Just one Axe for the zoombie I have to say my best experience is in the city above Balota on the mountain, mostly fully geared people who just want to find medics there. Cherno is full of respawns + they can't lose anything, maybe that's the reason ?

Not my video. Going to play on a dark server later to creep someone out :D

I play internet games since 1998 and participated in around 20~ Beta / Alpha games and Day Z is one of the better starts / alphas and this game is bringing me fun 12 hours a day now in the work free holidays. The only time I had that much fun with a beta was Wc3 ROC and Counterstrike. Why we need a thread every hour when the developer team already noticed almost every bug ? Give it time, 365 days. Next christmas we have one of the best games ever made. While I agree on the clunky gameplay I am happy they don't use another COD / QUAKE engine. I am really filled up with this shit, real life is clunky and you can't make everything perfect. Arma was never supposed to have the 1337-smooth gameplay experience which was standard at Quake 3 / Painkiller / UT99-2k3. You can tell rocket and his team was never prepared for this success. The sales since release are huge and with that money they have the chance to make great things.

My thought

I read almost every thread here in the GD forum and there is something I just don't get. A lot of people stating a bug or making suggestions say stuff like that: "Rocket you made 5.000.000$ and now you make vacation, please work on the game" "Rocket you said there will be Vehicles" "Rocket do something about server hopping" Why people think just because he is having 4 weeks holiday, nothing is going to happen in the game ? There is whole company and dev team behind him, he is probably just some kind of consultant. I am sure they are working very hard right now. How many guys actually believe Rocket is doing the work all alone, you think this guy is walking on the water ?

I had my respawn in a house, second floor balota. At the moment I spawned there was a guy in front of me, in the same house, second floor. I shot him as fast as possible, he was full equipped but didn't had his gun on me. I spawned, instantly hit "1" for the gun and just shoot. Feel kinda bad now. I could have used the logout but I stopped using this mechanic some days ago, so it was russian roulette for me.

The last 5 hours I was walking alone in the north. I met several groups of 2-3 persons, I sneaked to them and start talking, they got scared + log off. The last group of 4 people I met, told me they are friendly and I just took the risk. They shot me. I am not complaining, just saying it's kinda pointless now walking far away from balota, it seems the people there are super paranoid and only come in groups. They are probably bored and happy if they finally see someone to shot :( What's your experience ?

Google translated Changes (Neofitsialno! Since there is not a specific list of changes!) Revolver "Magnum" is now in the loot Fix ammunition to "Magnum" (.357 Speedloader - six-cylinder revolver) Modified switching the view from first and third person Changes to the server side Changes browser interface Server Lowered chance spawn weapons modules Spawn military rifles reduced by half Previously, after the death of the player's body was removed after disconnection, must now be http://steamcommunity.com/app/221100/discussions/0/648814841607538563/ + the dev announced for next week a patch on twitter. Somwhere I read a thing about combat logging, but it was not in the patch notes sorry.

Isn't the fix already in the patch next week ?

You can't give full transparency because this encourage even more rage. As I remember there is a thread of rocket himself stating every problem in the current version and we still get tons of threads / posts about the same issue. Apparently there is a patch next week fixing a lot of stuff, maybe even combat logging.

Isn't this the reason in the first place why Day Z is so successfully and top seller ? Letting people do what ever the fuck they want. You want to kill 20 bambis ? Do it You like the thrill to approach 10 people with a gun, to try to talk with them ? Do it ( With NO KOS rule there is no thrill, you never get shot, where is the fun ? ) You like to sit in the woods and wait 2 hours for people running through the city / airfield ? Do It ! ( Without that everyone could run careless everywhere ) So why the fuck people still complain. It's only up to the developers to dictate the rules. And after this great start of DayZ SA I have a lot of faith into rocket and his team. Mark my words, at the end of 2014 we have the best current game ever.

Someone in this thread mentioned the idea, as soon as you hold a weapon you instantly go into first person. I am a guy who appreciate first person only but this is something I could work with. I guess there are still some 3rd person people who wants to shoot while in 3rd person. We need to come together and the solution above sounds good, not ?