Sidewinder24

Please, PLEASE, look into a Commorose system for gestures. It will be so easy to use if implemented and gesturing will happen less awkwardly with F keys.

Snipers on roofs isn't really that big of a deal. I think it is funny watching all the casuals screaming at me to kill them so they can have a "better" spawn now that they can't kill themselves. I just laugh at them and encourage them to actually play the game.

Another 3PP exploiter enthusiast not grasping that the "zoom" simulates human sight in an authentic way whilst 3PP view exploitation simulates nothing a human is capable of.

There needs to be the options -I don't play alone but I don't play with a clan/friend I make new alliances in-game.

I join a server and meet new people every time I play. I use in-game VoiP and have memorable experiences every time. I can see how playing with a group via TS can be fun especially if you've played with those same people that way in games like Battlefield but for me it's all about the survival experience. Just yesterday I spawned in Kamyshovo and instead of making the mad rush into Elektro I decided to run the road to Solnichniy. I ended up meeting 5 other survivors. One had a pistol and hunter backpack but the other 4 were new spawns. Again instead of defaulting to Elektro we made our way to the newly made city, stopping at the shipwreck on the way. We came across a guy at the bow of the ship, asked if he was friendly but no answer. We asked if he had a mic but no answer. We asked him to type into proxy chat but he didn't. After about 5 minutes (way too long) I smashed my axe into his face a few times, took his canvas pants, and we made our way down the ship. At the bottom there were two armed guys saying that we killed his friend. They then opened fire on the group killing one of us that I saw before I went down unconscious. There was still gun fire for about a minute I remember hearing fn45 pistol shots among them. It ended and I heard the guy with the pistol say "they're dead, I'm going to revive you." I came back from the brink with my newfound friend's epi and saw that only two of our group had died. It was obvious the guy we killed atop the ship was communicating with his clan/friends to probably ambush us and told them via TS that he had died and we were coming down the ship. Anyway, we adventured together for about an hour more before I had to stop playing. I'll probably never see them again and that's fucking fine. Just another opportunity to meet new people. Long story short, finding strangers to play with is more rewarding for me than having a go to clan group.

Commo rose for gestures in the future. Think about it...now do it!

I think people just need to realize that when Dean promised us the "anti-game" where authenticity was paramount, mechanics were intended to be inaccessible, and it wasn't made with everyone in mind, he, whether he knew it at the time or not, was lying through his teeth. The truth is, once the casual masses got their hands on it and started throwing money at Dean, they made it their own game with Teamspeak, loot maps, 3PP view exploitation, gamma adjustments to circumvent darkness, and Dean didn't give a fuck after that. For those poor souls that still believe DayZ to be a hardcore survival game, I just feel sad for you. Moving forward based on the team's attitude toward design, things will gradually get easier and easier. You'll see your location on a virtual in-game map, you'll start spawning with your friends, PvE-only servers will start cropping up and Dean with call them "Normal" servers. A year from now when people make a thread here on the forums complaining about how it's dumb that everyone spawns with an M4 and 200 rounds of ammo, there will be an uproar about how you're trying to dictate how someone else enjoys playing the game. They'll threaten, in the off chance that starting M4's are removed, the majority of the playerbase will stop playing. Not conforming to the casual movement is losing battle. If you're looking for that unforgiving, one-of-a-kind experience that was described a year ago, it's time to move on because DayZ isn't going to be that game.

Well anyone can use a wallhack. It's available for anyone to put in the game so it is fair to everyone.

The most pertinent footage is between 0-7.00 minutes. He has a some things to say about 3PP too and although they're scathing, they're 100% true. 3PP exploit lovers beware. This video will surely rustle your jimmies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V9oh8dBNUs

So I'm looking for some feedback on the idea of a VERY small chance of military grade loot spawning ANYWHERE. Part of the reasoning behind why this would be plausible is the new military zombies included in the latest patch. Right now I've encountered those types of zombies in residential areas which would beg the question, where did their equipment end up? To me the idea of having something like an m4 spawn in a small village house isn't an unreasonable expectation given a zombie apocalypse. There'd be chaos everywhere and the military might be deployed all over the affected areas. After they become overrun, smaller squads might branch out and await further orders from headquarters. They're eventually overrun themselves and BAM! M4 in Gorka. Again, I'm talking about a very small chance but something like this seems like it would encourage people to explore a bit more. The idea that you may just find a decent gun without having to team deathmatch at an airfield or military barracks would create incentive to explore. Your thoughts?

My bad guys. I know I've found m4's in very specific places like firehouses and schools but I've never found anything in a random town house. I must just not have enough playtime to have experienced it.

Wow. Okay buddy. Whatever you say. I never said I want to remove 3PP and have zero understanding about why you brought up all that other shit. Good luck in life.

I don't know if it is English being your second language or what, but I have no fucking clue what you're going on about here or how it pertains to being able to look over and around 10 foot walls.

What you just described there could easily be applied to 3PP enabled servers. As it is I can't join a 3PP server without other players having an "unassailable advantage" in terms of "super-human capabilities." I wouldn't mind playing in 3PP but unfortunately joining a server where that is possible puts me at an immediate, unavoidable disadvantage. Fix the exploitative nature of 3PP for both 1PP and 3PP enthusiasts.

I have always contended that you don't have to remove 3PP entirely. There is a difference between 3PP players and 3PP exploiters. They need to fix the exploit. So it sounds like you agree. Your position right now sounds akin to the Catholic church covering up and protecting abusive priests. You state that you also think it is a problem but fight tooth and nail to protect the people that give 3PP a bad name. Why not work with us to change it instead of against? Asking people to not exploit isn't really the same as telling them how they should play. By that logic you would have a problem with people who badmouth hackers and tell them not to hack. Going by your theme that's one person's playstyle (not hacking) telling another person's playstyle (hacking) to stop.

If you could show that my beard was exploitative and a detriment to other people, I could be persuaded. This type of reasoning and logic flies in the face of 3PP exploiters who scoff at incontrovertible facts, playing it off as, "Don't tell me what to do, la la la, not listening! Not listening!"

The game is 1 month into alpha. Jesus people, give it some time. However the mentality that you have to compensate for the lack of a feature by exploiting is not the answer for obvious reasons. Maybe that's not what you're saying here but I've heard from plenty of others phrases to the effect of, "Well I can't see perfectly out this window so 3PP is the only way to go." or "The nighttime is too dark right now so I have to increase my gamma until they fix it." or "The in-game VoiP isn't that great so I have to use teamspeak to communicate with my teammates without anyone in the game hearing me. Even when they're miles away they can hear me. I can call out peoples positions too, it's great!" or "The maps you find in the game don't have enough detail so I can only use Dayz DB's until they update it." Just because something isn't perfect in an alpha build (crazy I know!) doesn't mean you should have to seek out exploitative alternatives to compensate. Instead why not provide feedback, realize this is an extreme work in progress and show a little patience until it's addressed. For instance, walkie-talkies will be implemented sooner than later which will allow for a balanced approach to talking with your group without being right next to them.

Why is sharing a video about Dayz a pointless thread? Is this the Dayz General Forums?

Unfortunately its "flaws" as you put it, far outweigh its highly subjective pros. Good for you for not exploiting the camera view to see over and around objects, but the sad reality is that the majority of people who use that perspective do abuse it. Sometimes they don't mean to either. By just being in the perspective while not yet engaged in combat you might happen to benefit from it before you switch into your preferable 1st person view. Then you realize had you been in 1PP the whole time you wouldn't have even been alerted to a combat scenario. Besides the unlikely scenario of a non-abusive 3PP advocate, they do exist, you evidencing that, the truth is the vast majority do use 3PP specifically for its "flaws" which creates a problem

If the devs came out and told the truth on the matter, (i.e. "We're not going to change it because it makes us more money.") then I'd have a lot more respect for them. As it is right now though, they're actively advertising this game as the anti-game but allow something completely anti to the anti-game. 3PP as it now in Dayz is a huge contradiction and an extreme example of hypocrisy on the devs part.

That is a good jimmie rustler indeed. I'm sure my word choice is a bit hyperbole. However, when he's talking about how the game should feel with the example streaming right before the viewer's eyes, and asks, "isn't this what Dayz is all about?" it sounds to me more to me like patronizing accusation rather than an actual inquiry. It sounded like he could have said, "Why would you even think to play Dayz any other way, stupid?"

He implies later in his commentary that people that play in 3PP or those that don't like 1PP aren't playing the game for the right reasons. That's jimmie rustlin' material right there.

He has such a subtlety to it that it often goes unnoticed. Like a player laying prone on the other side of bush on a 1PP only server.

Haha. I just realized he spells his name Dslyecxi. My un-dyslexic brain went all dyslexic on it in the thread name.

There is honestly a difference between people that play in 3PP and 3PP exploiters.