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I think frame rate is very important and its the number 1 issue with day z . as i said do some research, most people feel this way im not the odd one out. everyone on my friends list and 2 large communities feel the same.
Showing old screen shots of games which run a lot smoother than day z doesn't really proove anything, yeah they managed to make a survival game on less budget with less developers and Made it run at a playable frame rate within less time than day z. Kind of makes day z look like the bad game.
Frame rate not only effects graphics but game play. The melee system and inventory system in day z is pretty damn shoddy and made laggier and worse by the awful performance. Its pretty frustrating !
Have a quick look down steam stats today, Ark Survival has 50k players in 6th placce, Arma 3 has 18k players, Rust has 16K, h1z1 has 13K, Day Z is way down the list below Left 4 dead and Cs go with 7K players. 2million copies sold and 7k on the game today does kind of show the decline of players as the game development literally drags on till next year.
Typical random review on Steam Day Z Page: " i think the real zombie apocalypse will happen before day z gets optimisied" - pretty much sums it up.
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By no means a good looking game.
Single Player game with by no means exceptional performance. It looks great, yes. But one thing to keep in mind: the developers were not game developers, they were exclusively Hollywood special effects artists..
Apart from Batman possibly the worst performing title of the last 2-3 months. A lot of YouTubers (including WoBo, who started as DayZ YT'er) made a lot of views with guides on performance alone, because of its poor performance.
I could make the original Super Mario run 60 FPS as well - and that's how 7D2D looks like as well..
But anyway, you're (yet again) trying to start petty arguments without thinking anything of it through. You need to work on your anger management, or you'll get into trouble again. Take this as well-intended advice.
wow your such a troll bait ... H1z1 looks pretty much on a par with day z if you look at recent pics rather than a dev stream from months ago--- the main point with h1z1 is that it runs constantly at 60fps so doesn't feel completely broken- the mouse movement is 1 to 1..its smooth and came out on its alpha release that way, with lots more to do than day z...i dont even play it much but the point here is smoothness and frame rate not overall texture quality-- which if you look at some areas and screens of day z its much worse in that regard
Ark survival i dont like the game but my community play it a lot. when it released it ran like a tank. Surprisingly a few weeks later it runs at a solid 60fps. Im not supporting the game im just stating facts the game has hardly been out long but their dev team are listening to their community and improving it ten fold..if you own the game fire it up it runs smooth now...As for videos about how to run it smooth- lol- how many people make them for Day Z?!? Day Z is pretty much the laughing stock of the steam community and the main reason people rip it is because it runs at slide show laughable frame rates. its unplayable!!!
No where near as bad as the batman episode
Finally 7 days lol you really picked the worst shot for that..again im not a fan but the game runs smooth
The forest also released a bit laggy and has since been optimisied and runs nice..its been out for less time than Standalone and its made by a small team of like 5 developers.So what if they were special effects artists.
To be honest, your the one starting arguments with no facts and using old screenshots and old information. You need to work on communication, research (getting facts straight), and reducing your trolling as your supposed to be a moderator. I was siting several early access games, with less dev time, less budget, who have managed to get their early access survival games to run at 60fps. Day Z might want to take some inspiration from those.
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I was asking about optimisation, when is the roll out for the new renderer and how exactly is the plan coming together for optimisation?
It was your mods that threw us off topic with the usual trolling and avoiding questions more than politicians -
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citation- Day z mod first release Jan 21 2012-- so thats over 3.5 years ago since the mod first came out for the 2009 tactical shooter video game ARMA 2 and its 2010 expansion pack, ARMA 2: Operation Arrowhead. So Chernarus map has been out over 5 years, the mod 3.5 and the standalone since December 2013 :)
thats a long time to wait for a playable frame rate right :D
i think its frustrating thats why i used the word troll you never ever give any sort of detailed plan and it comes across like the dev's haven't got a clue When or even if half of this stuff will come out and work. In short we need more details, dates, and bullet points. Saying "3 to 6 months" every couple of months isn't helping.
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I think patience is still key here. I believe the new renderer will make a difference. And expecting smooth play before beta is putting the cart before the horse.
How a game that hasn't even been released yet has become a "joke" speaks only to the impatience of those calling it a joke. I was playing H1Z1 for the first time last night. Loved the creepy music and everything, but when two players suddenly vanished in front of me I knew I was dealing with a game still under development. That game has a similar disclaimer before the game starts just like DayZ. While playing I overheard a couple players complaining about the game. Just like players do here. So the "joke" is on you if you expect a game in development to be working smoothly. Just saying.
h1z1, the forest, ark survival , 7days to die, and many other games also in alpha on less budget, with much less dev time than dayz, all run smoothly at 60 FPS at this point in time day z runs the worst. and its supposed to be the original and best. It runs worse than all the other Early access survival games. It is a joke mate.
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You don't optimise unfinished games...what would be the point?
He asked what the PLAN is for optimisation. Before all you 'admins' jump on and troll like you usually do, why don't you read the question?
When is the renderer out? what is the plan for increasing FPS
And yes, I would start formulating a plan because this is an old engine and needs a lot of work. Whats a stage by stage breakdown of your PLANNED optimisation process and when will the players see the roll out?
Ask any of your community what the number 1 issue is with Day Z and you will find mostly its the terrible frame rate and lack of ANY optimisation
At least attempting to work on the most important issue would be vital work. yes what is the plan for optimisation?
the question is not: do we think optimisation is usually done at the start or end of a game design process. Usually its the end - but most dev teams dont have a 10yr old engine that runs at 30 FPS That no one seems to be able to say WHEN any optimisation will be done, HOW much of a FPS Increase- will it ever run at 60?
Yes i read the status report. Its the usual flashy look at all this great tech with no explanation of when How or Will it even work. The admins here are terrible they jump down everyones throat repeatedly with the same PR drivel. The game is a joke. Dont bring Arma 3 into it that was optimisied and finished so much quicker than Day Z was it only one year? And that runs at 60 in towns if you have a good rig.
As for Ark someone mentioned it..i think that games a broken disator but look it has gone from running 20fps to 60fps on my rig within a few weeks as their devs are pushing out many updates. Day z has seriously not progressed at all in its alpha, its all style no substance. By the way adding hats and guns wont break optimisation! thats just variations of code u already have taken from code already in Arma 2.
The game has had almost 3 years dev time if u take into account the mod plus how old is Arma 2 Chernarus map and they still cant get it to run??????
Still no solution for the public server hive either, people kicking everyday to ensure their pay to win loot.
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This really isn't going to change anything. Stop undoing all of our hard work by convincing people that it's going to help with FPS really soon.
We're really only going to notice any significant performance gains until optimization takes place after we enter beta testing.
ive been waiting over a year for it and they keep saying 3months.
Yeah i have little faith left in a team that thinks under 30FPS is fine at this stage in development
Yes i know optimisation comes later
What i dont know is the devs have any idea how this game will ever run at 60fps and have done no attempts to get it to do so...Just keep adding and breaking the game and hopefully a year down the line they'll make it run smooth- i think they need to rethink priorities, day z is becoming a well known 'joke'
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wait for the fabled white unicorn 'new renderer' out SoonTM
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970 ex oc galax silent infinity black edition reporting in i get the same frames as used to get with my gtx 660
I am an i5 4670K user with 16gb ram and win 7 64bit.
Along with most of my friends (10+ Day Z Players) We are all awaiting the frame rate to be improved, that is the number 1 thing that puts us off playing -
Wow, this game is really fucking dead if you believe this isn't a zombie game. This community sucks ass. So many shills and unhelpful comments.
Yes i have pretty much gave up on the forums here, every reply is almost always an alpha comment or something trolling, even the moderators do it.
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why has the kicking option not been removed yet. As players we shouldn't have to do this. Just remove the 'kick' option from public servers. It has been on-going since launch and its game breaking. im not playing until they fix. Its pay to win.
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And here lies the absolute cause of all the problems with abusive admins. You have admitted it that BI have given PUBLIC HIVE server owners the right to kick anyone that they judge to be 'abusive players'.
That option should not be there. If someone is cheating or abusing bugs that should come under BI's remit to sort out via battleye or whatever it uses.
Giving server hosts that option at all has been the problem since launch, and still remains to be. Until that is addressed the entire game is completely unfair, based on pay to win whoever has the server rights and can kick anyone for 'abusive'. Seriously, spend 10mins of your day going through the public list and note the amount of people kicking. It is an epidemic and continues to break the game.
Is anything going to change for launch or will you continue allowing public hive server admins to kick whoever they want?Its fairly obvious that there is a correlation between allowing people to kick whoever they want, and sales of servers.
The other solution is of course provide servers for the game as we have already paid for the game, we shouldn't have to rent a server to play it. Private servers should be allowed but this abuse of public hive is on-going, game breaking, and BI has provided no indication of
A) Admitting the problem exists
B. Making a solution to the problem
From what Ive read in your replies above, BI think's this is working as intended and there is no issues with game breaking admins
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so there is useless loot like teddybears and shirts in your picture. whats your point
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I get it. They are breaking the rules somewhat. But damn man you must be a sad individual to live for being a tattle tell. I just don't understand why people like you act this way. Just chill bro, move to a different server and keep gaming.
because every server on the public list with less than 10 people is pretty much doing this, its taken over all of your public servers, its impossible to go on a low pop server and chill on public, they all kick you just for joining, and B.I. still never removes that kick option because it helps keep servers popular
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Ouch! And here's where the train went off the tracks guise. The devs are aware that some admins are not prepared to follow the server hosting rules, hence the option of reporting abusive server admins: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/158966-dayz-standalone-server-hosting-rules-server-reporting/
Well it was a thread debating server names and rules- my comment was directly related to server rules
This has been an issue since launch, reported multiple times, and still you have done nothing. A much easier solution would be to just lock public servers from been able to kick people, as they have literally no need at all for that on Public servers. That feature has been left in to sell more servers
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yeah definetly dying. Its one of my favourite games but we still need to be honest and not keeping pretending everythings fine.
Some of the largest day z communities barely play it anymore, most friends on my list who used to play religiously never bother, someone asked me to play the other day and had to say No, still waiting for the updates.
Pretty much had enough of playing anything under 60fps at this point. I have fully upgraded my PC and enjoy playing new games that run smoothly. As i've mentioned before, theres plenty of games with Less budget, less dev team, and have got much further with their alphas. Day Z is getting left in the dust.! Yes its alpha but the amount of times and delays with this 'renderer' and everything else, the game has hardly progressed in 18 months."Soon" is not good enough for me, i'll be staying off the game until they have some dates and planned progression, seeing a new gun or new hat every few weeks just doesnt cut it
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3rd person view was completely fine, everyone has access to it, why can't the whiners just play on First person servers?
The popularity of those servers shows most people prefer to be able to see their character.
In the real world we have pheriphiral vision, in the game 3rd person helps to mitigate that loss of vision.
I agree a slightly closer viewpoint is more practical, but what i dont understand is people who prefer first person trying to blanket the whole game for their preference.
If anyone hates it that much don't play on third person server, its really simple, stop catering the game to whiners
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And still on the public server list are tens if not a hundred PUBLIC servers that are using their server as private, breaking the game, this has been on-going issue since launch and still no attempt to fix it has been made,,, completely breaks the whole loot system when public hive servers are allowed to kick people, remove the right to kick on public. If people want a safe loot server where they kick everyone that joins, they should have to choose PRIVATE
Public servers kicking people constant issue, breaks the loot and hive because people abuse it. The dev's won't even acknowledge this issue, the money from servers keeps coming in.
Stop the cheating and kicking please.
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The Arma engine was designed to work on 4 cores.
i dont think any of the arma engines work on 4 cores. They don't work the way their supposed to . You have to add launch options and even then they use a small percentage of CPU.
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i have an overclocked 4gb 970 at 1380mhz , with 16gb 2133mz ram and i5 4670k 3.4ghz, SSD with OS and still get awful frames.... 20 to 30 fps in the larger towns... Sometimes 60 if i look at the sky. The game still runs worse than Arma 2 and Arma 3..... How they made the Arma engine run even worse i dont know
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Why isn't the renderer in? Why are Zombies broken? Why is gam n0 fix?
jk
its a joke but its so true
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"Bandit Hunting" has to be the most frequent excuse ever to actually play as a bandit.
If your goal is to go out and murder people then you're a bandit. This means you.
If you would've said "I still have all this ammo, I need to find bodies to put them in." then your intentions would be much clearer, without the fluff.
Personally, I find this statement to be adorable. :)
I'd disagree, bandit hunting means you kill people who attempt to kill others, but first make contact and questioning them see if they are friendly, obviously if they are aggresive or shoot first they are the bandit.
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A good tip is to put any valuables in your backpack, because damage tends to come from the front and affect items in your trousers or shirt.
Never put morphine or splints in trousers.
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WITHOUT PERFORMANCE YOU CANNOT ENJOY THE CONTENT!
Yes agreed this is the main problem. Functionality before form is important. Its not a rare view point- as mentioned a large number of gamers from my community and others also have the same feeling. The main reason we hardly ever play is due to the frame rate. The frame rate performance issues effect the gameplay directly. Its not just graphics- the bad frame rates means most of the gameplay elements eg. melee, shooting, moving around, avoiding zombies- all suffer from laggy input and delayed movement due to performance.
You can think that, but that doesn't make it so.
I'm not sure if i misunderstand that- but obviously because a few gamers think this way doesn't make it fact , agreed. It is just an opinion from quite a few of your games backers, the performance is still shocking for an alpha this far into development and i would still describe the game as 'unplayable' at these frame rates. Its just becoming a joke.
whats the plan for optimization?
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Posted · Edited by AgentNe0
Hi im not rising to your personal trolling to me, your always trying to get an argument started so that you can give out your little moderation spanking. I was intiially referring to the first devs comments to the OP which were typical of the style: " do u think we should optimise at the start or end of game design."
No one is expecting a day by day calender just a bit of hope that this game will ever be more than a broken mess.
Just learn some manners, you come across as a complete arrogant troll in every post. its probably due to your age and immaturity, that you always want to try and get a rise out of people. Stay calm and allow other people to express their opinions on the game, which surprisingly might not all be as positive as yours.