davschall

Well I dont think anyone was saying hey rocket, do it like this. I sure wasnt. Hell if anything I said was an "uneducated rambling", sorry i thought its was relevant to the convo cause its what ive learned. I never claimed to be a programmer in fact Im always looking to expand my knowledge, its come from hours upon hours of google searching, not classroom learning. Id love to learn how to code properly, but dont have the time for it atm. Maybe when life slows down a bit. By all means, id love to hear how and you found errors in what I said.

Oh ok perfect. Sorry i didnt know that lol. I do have to suggest that you try to get the 212 asap, especially if you are streaming(im assuming cause of microphone). I certainly know what its like to work with a budget lol. But an oc on the 6300 will really help.

Same (sorry for double post editing was not cooperating). I have an [email protected] and 7950@1175/1415 and I dip to 26ish used to be 20 but something good happened in the past few updates cause I definitely noticed a slight increase ,in the cities, my brothers 4670k@ like 4.3 i think, dips to at least 30-31.

Yes I believe so. I was more thinking along the lines that dayz wont be the only games he's playing in the coming months, hence my suggestion for 8 gbs. Plus 2x4 is not a whole lot more expensive than 2x2, and will run faster in dual channel than 4x2 dimms.

I would actually get 8 gb in a 2x4gb, it will be around the same price as adding another 2x2gb, but 2x4gb will run faster in dual channel mode than 4x2gb in i believe single channel mode (I dont know of any amd mobos that support quad channel, now that is a feature tha would be useful).

Glad to hear its planned on being added. Occlusion culling shouldn't require any new art, as it is just a calculation to determine what should be rendered and what shouldnt be dependent upon what is on the clients screen. I think this is where some of the biggest performance gains will be seen. We have powerful tech nowadays but not crazy enough to render every thing in a city lol.

Well I know that the RVE 3 can only utilize up to 4 gb if what ive been told is correct. Idk about RVE 4 im assuming more. So i cant really say how much the SA can utilize. 8 gb seems to be the best way to go, are you running your 4 gb in dual channel? If so I would suggest just getting a set of 8 (2x4) gb, if you buy off newegg. It isnt going to cost much more, and a higher speed will help you with ocing (f you do an fsb oc which i suggest learning). I would look for some cas 9 1866 or 2133 ram depending on which your mobo supports. It will help it so you dont have to loosen your timings as much and wont have to run dividers on your memory as quickly. You can get an evo 212 which will be fine for a while for 34 bucks Id watch for it go down in price. Ive seen it drop to 15 with MIR, then its a no brainer. Its hard to say which to get first, ram is going to benifit you more in other games coming up thats for sure. Idk what you have in mind for a budget, but imo picking them both up would be worth it if you can get the 212 for cheap. Id have to know what you want to spend right now to really help you. Edit: While I hate wasting old tech if you run the 4 gbs with the 8, it will work but if the cas latency and clock speeds are lower, you'll be limited by the 4 gbs, it can negatively affect your ocing. Plus if I remember right Amd likes to run in dual channel when ocing.

Yea I certainly think its no coincidence that dayz was created on this engine. Whilst not the best in optimization, it certainly excels in innovation.

I think the reason its such a slippery slope like with all the servers on the mod. If one server adds 1000 start with dmr etc cars. People will gravitate towards that (for some odd reason), so the other servers realize in order to maintain popularity they have to appease the crowd that wants it easy, plus they make a good amount of money for adding benefits to donors. I think its probably the same with 24/7 day servers in the SA. That being said I like playing at night, but I waffle between keeping it pitch black and changing up the night a bit. I understand realism, but I have trouble understanding the need to defend pitch black nights. I like a challenge, and I dont like video games to hold my hand, but I can certainly see better than my character can at night. Maybe I just ate more carrots than him in my lifetime lol.

Yes, or from what I can tell. I found a few post of people asking to use their engine to create an indie game. On the BI forums. They messaged some of the devs so id say yea.

This as well, maybe they'll pick up mantle....idk how its gonna work out but it looks great on paper. Also I to hate the threads, where people who arent informed say it is because it is. You just make yourself look like a sheep. Well intels better because..it is. OFC I dont really care because I have both systems in my home so I can actually see/compare side by side. I've been enjoying playing on both systems. Saying intels better thats why his friends are getting double the fps doesnt even make any sense to me, its not even helpful. Honestly he might think he has a better gpu than his friends, but might not.....or they are lying about their fps lol. To op if you have your 6300 at stock and have a decent cooler might be worth it to try ocing if possible. My 8350 is at 4.6 ghz and the difference between 4.5 and 4.6 for me is actually larger than the difference between 4.6-5.0. So even bumping up the multi a bit might help. If it is indeed a cpu problem, but it could be a wealth of issues such as drivers and such.

I kind of like it, I actually think it is something that people would hold onto, as its lightweight and small, just to remember who they were/are. Maybe if it just spawned on death or if when you examined the bodies it showed it or something.

Lol this, my brother has a 4670k and he only gets about 5-6 fps more than me with my 8350. He has a 7970 and I have a 7950. I have noticed a lot less of a cpu bottleneck though, and objects detail is a gpu intensive setting afaik. Im trying to tread carefully since people will interpret it as fanboyism which it is not. Id have to know their cards to really give you an answer. Its hard for me to believe that they are getting twice the fps as you. My brothers min frames are a bit better than mine, but he doesnt jump anywhere near 2 times my frames.

Im a little confused too, while I dont think the entire map would fit in the memory (well not enough to make travel instantaneous). There is certainly nothing instantaneous about streaming from the hard disk. Although I have heard that the RVE doesn't utilize your ram as well as it should. OFC I dont actually know what size the map is, and I cant really find any info on the RVE, so its all conjecture from me. Actually does anyone have any web pages or anything explaining the features and such of the Real Virtuality engine? Wiki's no help, neither is google. Got a few things but nothing in depth and nothing I didnt already know.

Welp I tried...*facepalm* Edit: Alright to avoid being a dick (and lack of anything else to do) I was answering your question, nothing more nothing less, I dont expect it to be optimized, it released a few days ago. I even mentioned I was pleased at the distance they've come in cpu utilization. Also what you dont seem to be getting is the difference between an item being spawned and an item being rendered, there is an enormous difference. A given frame is rendered in a number of passes and what is on that frame is determined by the engine/API. In a normal well optomizied game pixels that are behind other pixels (to put it simply) are not rendered on screen, in a process called occlusion culling. The loot spawn is handled server side, so it has nothing to do with whether the item is there or not for you or other players.

Lol I think even like 3 pages of are you sure's wouldnt deter people. Wait entitled to have to do it? Slow down on the rage there and think out your sentences. Obviously you are not being payed and you have no obligation to report bugs. But you PAYED for the PRIVILEGE to PLAY in the ALPHA (so thats what the shift key does). You honestly need to calm down. Also I think you need to look up the word entitled...

Well I would say you certainly arent the minority here. But unfortunately rocket and team probably had to give a bit on this cause there were a lot of complaints on it. Now I actually like it, I say it all the time, but its alpha not really meant to be played like the final game. I like being able to run around all the time, because at this point Im just testing. Once the game actually releases, ill find whatever server isnt 24/7 thats for sure cause I actually like playing at night.

Maybe I will bother, he isnt saying why are the cars being rendered (im pretty sure) but that the look like they dont have a lod texture or look to good from a distance, I cant tell from the screenshot. Also he's not saying that he doesnt want it to spawn he saying he doesnt know if its being rendered, theres a difference between the server spawning an item and your GPU rendering even though you cant see it.

Lol I started but....why bother. OT: I have a bit of hope in general, the game seems utilize all 8 of my 8350 cores fairly well. Im definitely not as cpu limited. Honestly a few more fps id probably accept, if I could keep 30 min in towns that'd be awesome. But I'm guessing optimization will be last on their list of things to do, certainly after more zeds and such. Especially if they want to try and circumvent core aspects of the engine, it will be easier to isolate instability. The real virtuality engine never seemed to be able to handle a mod like dayz. Im hoping they have a bit more leeway with a hybrid engine.

I was wondering the same thing a few days back cause I realized i wasnt as cpu limited anymore, like in the mod. So I did some research on the Real Virtuality engine and couldnt find anything that mentioned it being apart of the engine. OFC youre right that you cant prove its working in game so unless the devs chime in, we cant really know.

You might be right, but I think the reason we saw so much of that in the mod, is because everyone had a generic skin. The gillie suit just looked cooler so everyone wanted one, to change their skin. With a wealth of options in clothing and character customization, I think people might tend to lean away from wearing only the ghillie. I noticed a lot less people wearing the ghillie in the origins mod cause there were more skins. I dont think clothing should be kept mainly civilian at all (not that I dont like it, I do and the variation is awesome), whats the point of having military spawns, if no military loot spawns there. I think you should find more military clothing than weapons honestly, cause realistically that would probably be the majority of what you would find/be able to access. Of course your point is valid too which is why I think variants of the ghillie would be cool, because people who choose to wear them would look slightly different. Idk rocket is obviously trying to take the game the more civilian route.I like the military loot because 1) Camouflage>Civilian clothing every-time, from a role-playing standpoint, I certainly wouldnt be running around the woods or even the cities in high visibility clothing 2) Idealistically, everyone would gunning for it eventually, meaning it makes sense to have it in. Of course Im thinking from a realistic standpoint again. On another note, I'm assuming they will add the ghillie at some point. Server hopping is one reason I dont get why people abhor private hives so much....lol when I first played dayz at first I thought "What?!? Its like cheating to be able to carry your items between servers!" Having only played private hives for the most part, I honestly dont understand (aside from the obvious start with a saw, vehicle every ten feet servers) the downfall of someone not being able to just loot an empty server then wreak havoc on a full one.

I honestly dont know why people care about seeing people with ghillie suits running around, to me it sounds like being obstinate for the sake of it. I dont think its OP I do think it removes a lot of the realism if, you just instantly make it. I agree with you mostly, the only issue I see is there wouldnt be enough variation, I could (relatively easily) plan a stalker suit that I could run in, carry probably at least a 50 Litre pack in, and by taking my hood off have complete situational awareness plus stay relatively cool. So there would have to be other tradeoffs as well. But I am thinking in terms of realism I suppose. In straight up making it difficult to wear, I like the idea and have thought of how cool it would be to craft it. But in my mind I think finding the suit and customization would be a bit better from a realism standpoint IMO. The only issue I have with making it cumbersome is the fact that the suit itself is not actually very practical in game, at the distance that grass fades players can usually see you with or without a ghillie. So in essence making it hard to craft plus annoying to wear would really just make it so we would see "less bush-wookies".

I could see how mine would come across that way lol. Although i am a male.....I've never backed down from a fight IRL, even if I wasnt sure I could win, hell even if I was sure I couldnt win. I certainly am not gonna let some breathy teenager tell me what to do, or some 40 year old. Call it pride call it stupidity, call it what you will. Ill stick to my guns. Edit:ninja'ed was replying to your other post.

Lol nope I agree, id say shooting someone who's handcuffed<shooting someone who gave you a gun. Its not playing the game, its being a pathetic troll for the sake of it.

Yea I realize at the end of my post I typed no crafting, which implied of any sort. Sorry i've been having some mild insomnia lately, couldnt sleep last night, feeling pretty tired. It certainly would be sweet to see some aspects of crafting thrown in, because a ghillie is in a way very modular. Natural vegetation would be the coolest thing to add to it, cause thats the most important aspect of a ghillie. But yea certainly a really rare spawn with customization options for crafting would be sweet.