vilas@o2.pl

so far they not answer any comunicator, on teamspeak i see 5 people chating in other "room" with strange nicks that i do not know like "felix" "tohos" "godwinny" - i never seen such nicks before especially in room "Origins mod stuff" , other person claims he wrote to Martin and was suddenly blocked on Skype, so Martin should be present on Skype cause ghost do not block contacts , i really hope to see documents from GTX that proove those money transfers and who exactly get money , if they were paying me 1000 pounds a month, i would be working 10 hours a day making them dozens of models every month , if this will be true, than question is how to stop them (by hosting company), if this is true, than noone other cheated me like this playing friends for over year

another thing to note, i was told that Origins has money by someone in Nov/Dec 13 (i will not say WHO) so than i was questioning them several times but Martin was saying "it is bullshit, don;t belive them, we do not get any money from server hosting" so i believed Martin but i stopped developing since then (plus i found another job and i had no more time for Origins like before i had) but from time to time i was asking Martin about any news, he was saying "it is bullshit" till i saw GTX message today, i wish to know WHOM was getting those money

just like Origins and this mod is not my deal, if you had claims on me , that i do not want those who collect donations to use my addons - my deal is - if you use my addon for free (no donations, no donor perks, no paypal, no server pay, no other profits) you can use it, if you collect money at any form (server perks, server hosting profit, possible server profit, donations, paypal) you should share tribute , so dozens of Arma mods USE my addons, my models, my textures, reskins of my vehicles, dozens of mods, RACS, CWR2, The Netherland Army mod, Italian Army mod, German Army mod, Marsellie77 addons, Ice Breaker addons such as forces of Duala, Unsung mod about Vietnam War, some Russian army units which use my rifles, US army mod which use my weapons, Swedish army mod which has my vehicle, and dozen mods more liek Brazilian army mod, SLA mod, Nogova mod, they all do it cause they do it FOR FREE, opposite to "other mods which you are not responsible" but which are DayZversum and DayZ hosters such as companies who host different mods and want 20 dollars for start with M16, want 100 dollars from clan per month (dayz hell if i remember correctly) or dayzvalhalla which sell "virtual gold" on Ebay for which you could buy my cars, but you moan on me that i do not want dayz mods to collect money from years of my hard work for Arma community (i didn't even know about dayz when some mods were collecting money using my cars cause i was only focused on Arma military gameplay) I hope never, many moders wish DayZSA to be closed game which only BIS give DLC the thing which is now important - is WHO was getting money from GTX, was it King, was it Martin+Alex , who was this , if it was King and Martin/Alex didn't know about it than it would mean that King lied to us for year , all i know that they all are shown "online" on Gamersplatoon forum, but noone responds on skype, on TS, on mobile

you are ignorant, other mods were collecting donations and NOT sharing with me and NOT asking me about permission BEFORE, other mods were not taking care about addonmakers rights, but simply they were copying addons, setting server and setting donations button, and me as author was never asked before can they collect money using my addons ! dozens of mods use my content when they do it for free, but when they want collect money it is not free use, almost every dayz server and mod was making money, unlike Arma mods who not even had donate button but Origins was ONLY mod who asked me about use before and passed me some donations and offered cooperation, makes difference ? some mods collected over 1000 dollars and NOT even asked me can they use addon to collect money on my work, you don't see difference between "sharing tribute for team member" and "collecting money on other man work without permission" ? one mod who was using my cars collected 1000 dollars (over 1000), other server hosters wanted donations perks to start with my vehicles , in military Arma mods simply HAS NO donation buttons, and they do it for free, no server perks, no donor perks, no collecting money like majority of dayz mods addons are free to use when mod is free and non-profit, hardly any dayz mod is nonprofit, look at majority of mods, they all have donation button, but addons are not their-hands made PC graphic is like music, when you play Metallica in bar and sell tickets to hear it, you pay tribute/percent to Metallica when you play for free - no problem dozens of Arma mods NEVER EVER had plans to set Paypal, opposite to dozens of Dayz Mods which didn't had SINGLE addon(model, island) made with their hands, so they were collecting money on other person work - it is called piracy when person earn money on non-his made content , thats why i didn't wanted use of my addons in mods that collect donation and servers which collect money and have donor perks people who make CWR, CSLA, RACS mods get 0 money in few years, they do it for FUN opposite to many dayz mods who first thing that do is set paypal if i was reading forums i would not be doing models , i do not read forums, especially of dayz forums, cause i am not dayz player ,

yes, my post was deleted and i tried to talk to them and i couldn't when in past i was hearing rumors that KingHunt takes money i was thinking it is jealousy and competition and black-p.r. from other mods, but when i read statement from GTX Gaming Com i was thinking i will get a stroke and i couldn't believe it Martin claimed in past that he gets donations from King from players, it was not more than 100 pounds, 200 pounds in some months, 8th November 2013 is last money i get, 60 pounds, it is last money i had from Origins, previously there were 50pounds 1st July 2013, 80 pounds, 120 pounds in 13th October, but GTX Gaming wrote about over 60 000 pounds, this sounds insane for me, totally insane , Martin and Alex were claiming that they are equally sharing donations that they get from players and they get no money from servers host, just player donations which we share for us 3 on equall basis, i rang Martin mobile 3 times today but he not answered mobile, when GTX wrote this officially i am really in shock, cause as far as i know noone from dev team was getting money from server hosting (dev team: me, Martin, Alex, from time to time one guy making Youtube videos, another guy who made 2-3 buildings for Taviana), King is not dev team cause King is making p.r. and hosting website, King has no skills to do models, textures, islands, code, King is just Gamersplatoon owner and p.r. manager, so whom was paying GTX ? to King ? if GTX was paying to King (they claim to dev team, hahah, i am dev team and i was not payed that enormous money) than i hope it will end in court cause seems we worked whole year for free GTX should say WHOM they payed money DIRECTLY !!!, they said dev team, but dev team is Alex, Martin and was me till Nov/Dec 2013 when i get job in graphic studio and i had no more time for Origins due to job in past i was treating such rumors as totall lie and bullshit, but when GTX put it officially i am in deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep shock in year 60 thousands mean 5 thousands per month , o my god, huge money

maybe you say the same for people who call addonmakers "whores" e? which happened on this forum by one user - was he banned or other restriction ? or just post edited and okay

Epoch looking at their page donations get over thousand dollars (over 1000 $) on content without asking about use it before, and noone in arma community calls addonmakers "whores" like you do here

but donated can be AUTHOR who made addon, not other person, Epoch mod cannot be donated for ... addons i made or server keeper cannot be donated from people playing my addons (i mean that some individuals put addons on server and want money from players for playing addons which are not made by them) just like i cannot be donated for what Invasion1944 mod did or CWR2 mod or CSLA mod cannot be donated for what Invasion44 mod did etc. donation is for AUTHOR not for "mod" which takes my addon and pack it into installer without even dear to share , if player want donate - he can only donate author, not redistributor of addon so once again is see that dayz community members do not see difference between author of addon (models, textures, configs) and user who just repack and zip other addons (as majority of dayz mods do with even OFP addons and authors of OFP addons who left community in 2006 do not know that now their buildings are packed and used in Arma2 and someone collect donations), there is no big difference between "selling" other men's addon and donation from other men's addon - in both cases author do not get his share if Epoch or other mods do their own models (they have modelers, texture makers) they can collect donations - simple if someone made model, textures - it is his luck to get donation if model is made by other person, textures are made by other person - it means he cannot collect donations (but it happens in dayz modding scene where all dayz mods collect money and only few of them have modeler or texture artist in team) for example RobbertHammer or Christian1987 cannot be donated for weapons packs because he uses Counterstrike authors models (models, textures are made by Counterstrik modders and RobbertHammer just imported models to Arma) - example of author and non-author donations issues if for example RobbertHammer or Christian1987 would be collecting donations i would write email report to original authors from Counterstrike who would gone mad etc. for exaple Marsellie77 used my cars and APC and weapons to make his RACS/SLA/German mods and he cannot collect donations using my models etc. etc. RACS mod for example contain my tanks, my vehicles, my weapons - situation is similar so it is not issue IS someone collecting donations or not, but IF he made stuff (models, textures) himself, in fact majority of dayz mods do not have single modeler, single texture artist but have hundreds of weapons, vehicles and collect donations - this is issue and problem, selling addons also happens on worldzombie.ru Russians were selling Martin's Taviana, to download Taviana you had to pay 250 Russian Rubels (their money) to download Taviana for Russian dayz modification so the main issue is whose content is in comparision to donations profiteer , in Arma2 modding scene there is no such problem because almost noone collect donations , in dayz "modding" afaik all mods have "donate" button, all servers have "donate" button, from 2004 to end of 2012 i didn't get even cent for hundreds of models i made for OFP, Arma1, Arma2, dozen of mods, when dayz entered scene first what those "modders" done was to start Paypal and pack our addons (Martin island was one of first addons from Arma which was monetized by third parties, my weapons pack were second probably and later i was seeing my cars or my weapons on Youtube as "other mods content" with "donation" button) , in Arma when someone want to use addon in his mod (not player but modder) first he asks and he doesnt collect money using your models, in Arma it is very rare and Arma /OFP community has 10 years, dayz comunity has 1 year and during this year made more problems to addonmakers than Arma/OFP community would do in 100 years when OFP /Arma comunity moder is asked to remove content he has answer "okay", when RKLS Rock (author of jet planes) asked one dayz guy not to steal cotnet he get answer "Fuck you you cocky cunt that maybe most of the addon makers but there are thousands more of us hackers than guys that just make stuff!' < such things not happned in OFP/Arma since 2002 , so RKLS ROCK answered "Maybe so, but if we dont make stuff for public release you wont have anything to hack."

Dayz Epoch and 20 other mods are not using this code ?

correct in probably native English + permission needed BEFORE (and i will not give it to mods that already collected money in past like Epoch for example plus servers keepers who charge players for costs much bigger than server in Arma2)

because they not know what is to spend 10000 hours on something plus my not native English also complicates, but if you understood my english, is good

but have you knew about this world zombie ru ? cause you all hate Martin so much here, while i wonder how you would act when you work 6 years on island and than see someone just edited it a little and sells it by pay-to-download for 250 Rubbles , woudn't you sent any legal notes ? or when your six years of work would be edited by other persons ? if you blame him for taking legal actions than maybe you also hate police and legal enforcement ? because a lot of us from arma are either military or law enforcement too not teenager player issue is to learn dayz community about rules of addons which we create (and now stopped doing addons because of dayz community and arma community suffers from it, cause i am asked for new cars and i cannot do them cause someone will start collecting money of them)

about threating i only read about unauthorise edition of Taviana and tries of release untauthorized Taviana and i heard about selling Taviana by someone from Russia - this what i know, if someone was selling Taviana like worldzombie.ru ( http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?142504-My-work-is-being-illegally-sold-on-World-Zombie-ru there is topic about worldzombie ru taking 250 rubels for download of Taviana !!!) so if you disagree that Martin should protect his 6 years of work for being sold like on worldzombie ru or edited by other person - there is something wrong with your thinking about copyrights, Taviana was is and will belong to man who spent years to create it and buildings models to it, if you support situation where worldzombie ru takes 250 Rubels for download of Taviana than... it is typical to dayz community it seems :/ for me legal notes to those who not want accept rules is okay, not something bad, and addon was EDITED without permission (if you change addon, you edit it - it requires PERMISSION) not even saying about payment for possibility to dowload FREE ADDON which is unacceptable, i work for several companies, few games i do not have time to investigate, even in battlefield people asked for my weapons and get permissions and when you say about credits - credits are important in free game, if someone charges players for money it becomes business and credits are least important in business, credits in form of note in readme or on webpage are good when it comes to non-profit mods like military modding in Arma2, so first of all dayz comunity should change to being non-profit if they want to use addons for credits with permission (not saying about development of Standalone which is typical game and is made to make money) , i wonder what amount of money collected all those who use my addons since months or i do not know how long dayz moding exist, year ? if they earn money on my models, they owe me money - simple , if they not earn - okay dayz community do not want to understand that author of addon is owner of addon and copyrights, as well as addons are delivering "free dlc" and for such activity can be (if anyone wants) thanked in form of donation (it exist like this in all modding for all games) and ONLY authors of content (model, texture etc.) can be thanked in such form for delivering free dlc for rest, not persons who just "use" it , there is and there never was in modding scene, anything wrong in having donations unless donations were for your own model and your own textures , donations is not selling, donations are thanks gifts for time spent on addons (which dayz copy-paste community doesnt understand, but for example creating map takes half year, creating 20 cars pack can also take half year of work every day like in daily job) some people here says that sending ask for permission is equal giving permission - it is wrong Arma2 community is very angry with things that Dayz community makes with addons

first of all - afaik Origins uses DayzCode the same was every other dayz addon reworking it - so you should than demand EVERY dayz mod to be taken down (by the was as i looked in internet Origins is one of few who have their own models, textures, coding, oposite to others who do not have own work) , second - it is not author of addon who should investigate, roam and ask between mods, it is mod's duty to ask before use, and not use for money collecting, do not capsize situation, addonmakers are not investigators and begars, addonmakers create content and different moders first should ask and second use without making money or share money they made on other person addons (if mod in Arma collects donations, than they share within creators, probably the same works in Battlefield, GTA modding, Max Payne modding, all modding except Dayz where I do cars, someone use them and collect money either as "moder" or as "server owner") it is not me who should ask kindly for removing my addon, it is their whom should remove it asap and not collect donations on other modelers work (by the way they use RobbertHammer weapons pack, RH is just person who get permission to import CounterStrike moders model and textures to Arma, so authors of models are guys from CS, not RH, so paying RH for models which were made by dozen of guys from CS also not works or RH would put donations to them)in case of other mods you would be surprised how many mods get my models, i used Lingor units as example, Lingor tanks (Leopard tank), APC shown on screen, soldiers models, police models, van, fireengine trucks etc. lots of mods get my permission in Arma2 , lots, now in other dayz mod to my surprise i found post that i agreed giving WW2 weapons (cause i also made world war two models) and i do not remember giving permission for ww2 weapons to dayz, i remember giving permissions to arma2 military mods

yes, and later packet it and set Paypal button or like some websites which i linked befor - posted that they want xx dollars from clan per month for playing this or another mod in Arma we always respected those who make models and textures themselves, in dayz most respect is to those who haven't done single model and less to those who made models and textures themselves - opposite to Armaversum remove content which was NOT made by "mod" , i wonder how many Dayz mods would left and server keepers and hostings