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If we're getting bears then I want a .44 mag revolver in game. For obvious reasons. Make the ammo harder to get than .357 and the spawn rate about 1/3 to 1/2 of the Magnum and about 1.5 times the damage with about a .25 to .5 increase in recoil (N-Frame smith with a 6 in. barrel is quite heavy compared to a 6 inch Colt Python) and it should be fairly balanced. Numbers used to find muzzle energy comparison... http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/357mag.html Used Federal 125gr JHP out of a 6 inch barrel. http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/44mag.html Used Federal 240gr JHP out of a 6 inch barrel. Both are fairly common loads for a .357 and a .44. Infact the .44 load is similar to the original designed by Elmer Keith (The father of the .44 Magnum).

Does not shooting people when I have the chance count? Cause I used to do that alot... then get shot at by them. Only reason I don't continue is that I don't consider my laptop worthy of gaming anymore.

This is true. But past 400m I doubt the enemy in the target zone hearing the shot will be an issue.

Look it's entirely possible to shoot any firearm over 400m. It's just how much angle it needs to be on. For this you could just use some holdover to get the longer shots. The round is perfectly capable of it.

Guys, as good as some of these suggestions may be (i haven't read them or I'd be picking at least one apart right now), please put this in the suggestions thread.

Well.... actually you can. The typical saw down of a tube mag firearm is cutting the barrel down to the end of the tube. So turning this: into this: The problem with this suggestion is that (to my knowledge, haven't played in a while) we don't have a tube mag firearm with a barrel significantly longer than the mag. Going any shorter requires skills that the typical person wouldn't know and tools we don't have in the game. Yet.

Triggers aren't exposed. Mag release should be above the belt line as should the hammer. Safety is just as unlikely. String goes around the barrel/slide and is stopped by the trigger guard if sized properly. The sight is the most likely snag point but pockets are worse than this. It isn't a quick draw setup but it's more secure than stuffing it in your belt. Retention is important.

This also you need to have the card powered (It's been a problem before on here when somebody had the card but not a 6 pin to it) and the settings up high enough that it'll use the GPU.

To be perfectly honest, this is a viable form of carrying a pistol. It's called mexican carry. I'm not at all against this as long as you couldn't do this with certain pairs of pants. The major problem is not that they would be too tight, but they would be too lose and wouldn't be able to support the firearm. So no doing it with tracky dacks. It is a dangerous form of carry but it can be done. But there is a trick that makes it easier if you have a belt. Which I wouldn't mind being a requirement. It's a loop of string which provides a place for the firearm to rest so it won't slide down your pants and keeps it in one spot. Just a piece of string or a shooelace is all you need. Oh, some history on the subject.

Technically you aren't supposed to aim shotguns, except with slugs. You are supposed to "point" it. The bead is there for when you start out. That's assuming the shotgun fits you, but if we can have magic self-zeroing scopes then why not? People also get desperate, I'd rather a pipe shotgun than a improvised bow. More likely to find ammo than the gun it's for the last time I played. Of course you can't aim, but you can guess. It'd be extremely close range, last resort weapon. For balance sake I'd give it about the damage of the MP133 but with no cross hairs at all. No ability to aim other than a mild guess, and the possibility for explosion on the high side. Because it's actually realistic.

People are assholes. Especially when they aren't responsible for their actions, like on the internet. That's why we have a KOS mentality. The motivation shouldn't just be the gear, it should be the journey. On top of that if your motivation is the gear then why make it easy? That takes the challenge out of it, which makes it boring. People are too careless because there are no zombies (except the three that inhabit each server). There are people who don't want to find weapons, but they make their own. The improvised bow is one of them. But they tend to try and stay away from the rest of the player base. You're eating the wrong berries.

Well let's begin... One: This. Is. A. Survival. Game. Things are supposed to be hard to find, it isn't Call of Duty. Two: The M4 exists in this game along with attachments, they're just hard to find (AFAIK) Three: Hordes are on their way, they should be in when the zombies come back due to better AI being worked on right now. (AFAIK) Four: If you want AI soldiers then there are many versions of the mod and arma which allow you to do this. DayZ is supposed to be entirely player driven, thus no AI. Except Zombies and animals. Fifth: This is not a shoot-em-up, this is not a FPS, this is a survival game. Weapons aren't everything. Sixth: Please don't double post. Did I miss anything?

I'll pay that. But I wouldn't take it out. It's still better than the guy just laying down. Just as long as they could stop the sliding.

It doesn't actually take that much force to stop a semi-auto pistol from cycling. The cartridges are notoriously weak due to their size and not holding it tight enough will cause a failure to feed. That's how picky these things can be. Not believing me that these cartridges are weak? 9mm is just about match in energy compared to light to mid .38 special. 10mm is getting close to .357 magnum spec but it won't match a hot loaded .357. 45ACP is about .44 special, which is a long way from a .44 mag. That's just "pistol" rounds. .308 is exponentially more "powerful" than any pistol cartridge yet isn't guaranteed a one shot stop. Nothing is guaranteed a one shot stop though, And don't bring up "stopping power" that's a stupid term that means squat in reality. Muzzle energy is a better gauge but that's only gospel at point blank. I'd say a rag good enough to hold that flashlight isn't going to break, it's going to keep the slide forward.

So the lifeless crumpling of a non-functioning hunk of flesh is "not what death looks like"? I'm pretty sure that's what death looks like.

No. You are physically holding the slide forwards with that setup, even in a 1911. The front sight makes sure of it. It could work on the Magnum but I'm not in favour of ever doing this to such a beautiful firearm. Would rather one hand the pistol and hold the light with the other. Speaking of which. Why the hell can't we do that yet? or can we...

It's not the fact that the light will fall off. It's the fact that the pistol wouldn't cycle in a new round after you fired it. The slide would be locked up by the duct tape. But a duct taped on red dot would be about as useful as cutting out a circle in cardboard and sticking it to the gun. If you can't use irons then you have major problems.

Sweet. Been keeping off the wiki's until I get back into the game. (building a PC atm) I like to be in the dark with this game. Makes things interesting.

Well that flashlight just turns the FNX into a single shot. No ifs buts or maybes. A better Idea for the scope would be to let us use it in our hands (Can we do this yet? I've been away for a while.) because there's no point in sticking a scope to a weapon purely so we can use it to look around. Also scopes are sh*t for CQC. Red dots and irons and no scoping is where it's at. If you need zoom in CQC then get some glasses or you're not in CQC. If you want to be able to duct tape the scope to the rifle in the hope that you can use it to aim then that won't work. The point of aim is going to shift with every shot until it flys off into your face, it'll be useless.

Shall we go through this again. Any form of improvised sight or mounting system just doesn't have the precision or durability to work in any meaningful way. Duct tape bayonets don't last or even work in some cases because duct tape. Rocket himself has confirmed this. That light mount on the FNX makes it, at best, a single shot but you won't ever have it work as a semi-auto with that light on there. Fixing things firearms with bandages and duct tape are not going to work or be durable enough to be effective/not blow up in your face. Duct tape mags have merit but I'd rather just have the mags separate myself. Bottle silencer is usually a one shot deal. I have heard talking that you can make effective multi shot suppressors with various household materials but I'm not well versed enough in them to elaborate further. Though i've never considered the natural selection option....

Could you like... I dunno... update the first post or are you just doing what I'm doing and saying "There's no f*cking way I'm reading through all of this to figure out what's been suggested".

Reminds me of my Laptop, except less stuttering.

Desktop Monitors: 3x 1080p monitors CPU: I5-6600K (stock clock for now) Mobo: Gigabyte CA-Z170XP-SLI Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V series 16GB (2x8gb) DDR4 (2800mhz) Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 w/D15 PWM fans PSU: Antec HCG 900W SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB HDD: WD blue 500GB CPU: GTX660 This is just a planned build and I know the GPU is weak for the rest of the build but intend on putting in a GTX980TI when I have $1k to drop on a GPU. (rest of the build is like $1.5k for the tower) Mostly wanting to see what people think this will run at (FPS). Case is still undecided as are case fans (whatever notuas fit).

Damn, that would have put a world of hurt on this guy if you could have closed it. All these screens are making me nostalgic. Need to build a PC asap.

You spam anything with enough bullets and there is going to be damaged. I've stated before in a similar thread that I'm willing to take on heli's with anything that propells lead and/or copper with sufficient velocity and I'm sure I'm not alone. Anything airborne would encounter significant AA fire from non AA weapons because of how much of a game changer it is. And a little bird isn't a blackhawk, it's fairly close to, if not actually, a civvie aircraft. Not made to be a bullet sponge. But you specifically state a couple of weapons which do and supposedly do not work. Let's start with your claim that a FN-FAL (a "regular rifle") cannot bring one down, a FN-FAL is traditionally a 7.62 calibre rifle, a 240bravo is a 7.62 Light machine gun (for lack of a better term). All the 240 has over tha FAL is its spray capability, making it easier to land hits on a target that's always going to be hard to hit. A DMR is just a M14 Aim with a scope, bipod and a custom stock, it's also 7.62. Thus, excluding barrel length and differences in blow back operation which is a minimal factor here, they all have the same approximate muzzle energy. If you're good enough a FN-FAL will kill a pilot, if the game is realistic. In the Arma 2 based DayZ mod just about every 7.62 rifle bar the M14 series (from memory) had about 4K dmg but the M14 based weapons were closer to 8K (from memory) which doesn't make sense in a realism factor. If the devs give equal power to weapons based on calibre choice and similar barrels then "regular rifles" and even the more powerful pistols should be sufficient to take down a aircraft like a little bird. (*EDIT* if the pilot is dumb enough to basically hover in front of your face inregards to the pistols)