MikeZA

Flash Poll: How many private hive server owners and admins feel like 1.7.7 fucked their servers up? I am interested in knowing if I am the only one with a bitter taste in my mouth having to 1.7.7 on my server.

Sorry, can't help myself, stupid people are so fun to play with :rolleyes:

Yes, this was quite obvious, but why are you interrupting again?

Can we expect cleaner patching from now on? Or will I be bitching about amateur code again in the next patch? You know, the stuff that looks like its written by a child and tested by a monkey...? Maybe the 'verbal abuse' will drive the point home. Edit: fixed epic spelling fail

You have very poor comprehension, don't you mate. I do not associate myself with the kind of work the dev team releases. If you know half a shit about coding for a living you would understand this. Why are you interrupting a conversion between people who actually know what they are talking about?

What, in another 5 weeks when the next half-assed patch is rushed into release?

Another reason not to want to be associated with the dev team. Poor expectation management and rushed patching. It is better to release half a patch than a half-assed patch.

Either they knew it would not work and released it anyway, or they did not bother to test it at all. Both of those reasons are sufficient for me to avoid any sort of association with their work. Just that simple. I have also noted that the only people defending this issue are fanboys, where are these devs? Why don't they respond? Do they not have an explanation? Smells like not giving a shit to me... And the fix is not rocket science: remove the code until you figure out how to accurately and consistently determine a player's velocity in real-time. Christ, I do not believe I actually had to say it...

I didn't think it would be necessary to point out.. but okay... I was pointing out why this patch is bad to someone who thought otherwise, not find out why the devs don't give a shit and release poor code. The reason for THAT is pretty obvious to me. I have never released code that I knew would not work. Not wanting to be associated with a team that does so is not smugness, that is me being a professional. Not my fault people can't tell the difference. And a follow on: if they didn't know it wouldn't work... did they not TEST it? You know, like professionals do it?

If the devs gave a shit they would not have included code in the patch that the KNEW would not work properly. Not backing down on something is not the same as being unreasonable. Maybe I have not heard anything to change my mind? All I have heard is STFU or GTFO from fanboys instead of having someone who actually knows half a shit about the subject give me a valid reason for the inclusion of this code. I will not be debating inclusion of bad code with people who are obviously ignorant regarding coding at a commercial release level. I don't try teaching monkeys physics either.

And for the smart-asses who think me not contributing to the alpha code actually means anything:

Please, as if you could afford my billable rate.

Not sure what the removal of 50 cals has anything to do with this post... I am busy upgrading my server back to 1.7.6 now, maybe in about 5 weeks 1.7.8 will be better... but probably not based on 1.7.7.

Not without being paid. Awww.... we have a thin skin, do we? Poor boy.

An you know what shepherds do to sheep, right?

I have only claimed to have one solutions and I have provided it above. Nice try at condescension, maybe next time you won't fail so hard at it. Besides which, why would I waste my time trying to teach the current developers when not to include code in a release when they are apparently unconcerned with their shit code's affect on the mod? That is like trying to teach a cat to read, the cat gives zero fucks about reading, so why bother?

And I will when I feel like it, but until then, as an alpha tester, I will also take issue with developers shitting out poor quality code, sprinkling some sugar on top of it and calling it a feature.

You know, usually software houses have to PAY people to test their alphas... right?

Yeah I know right? The alpha is doing so well the developers don't need any pointers! Wake the fuck up please.

You can come try Brains of Britain UK#2, which is a whitelisted vanilla server. You will need to whitelist first, mention me and this forum in your app and I will get it fast tracked. www.brainsofbritain.co.uk and 188.165.247.120:2382

Does not appear to be. Spork knows, he is busy working on it. Edit: Excuse me, missed the update. My applogies. Can't wait to get the update installed and working again. Spork's anti-hax beat the crap out of hackers.

Experience suggests the contrary, does it not?.

Then maybe they shouldn't have added it in the first place...? Or written their own method of determining velocity. This is really just fundamental: do not release code that you know will not work properly. Did a school child write this bit of code? Is this why I have to point things out that anybody who writes code for a living knows?

You really think they aren't / won't use the code from the mod in the stand-alone? Why continue developing the mod when the stand-alone is "just around the corner"? Waiting the the host to provide the option to do this.

Okay, here is one of the reasons why the patch is bad: the tackle feature. The tackle feature triggers when a zombie close to the player "tackles" the player to the ground. In reality the player is being forced into the prone position. How this works is the player runs forward in the direction that the player is standing and then dives to the ground. If a zombie is standing in front of a player while the player is standing still, say three meters apart, and the zombie "tackles" the player, the player will run forward towards the zombie and then dive to the ground. In other words the feature has absolutely no correlation to real-world physics. Not exactly the quality of code I would ever have attached to my name. Alpha or not.