Ken Bean

How many heli crashes you searched? Whats with alle the grass and the distances the loot piles spawn away? I searched a lot and I still think, you either have xray eyes or you are the luckies bastard alive. Note that you not only claimed to have found one NVG, no, you even spoke in plural.

May I ask, where did you find the NVGs? Given the fact where they spawn, how often and how incredible difficult they are to find in dense grass, chances are good that you are talking nonsense.

I just want to say, that the infection rate atm really is a death sentence for a fresh spawns. You probably get infected very soon. If not, you will get infected anyway later. You won't find Antibiotics soon enough. If you are not looking for them, you wont find them. So if you get an infection, you are immediately under the stress to find meds. You don't have an hour since you may have been bleeding and already lost lots of blood. The vision also will get blury and stuff. You'll not find enough food or ammo to fight the Zeds. You most likely wont find all tools you need to cook meat. A hatchet is too weak, since Zeds are fast as heck. Some will need 3 hits, but you'll miss a lot. So as soon as you are infected, you either die quite fast searching or relatively slow trying to find a town. Since running from town to town takes ages ... you get the idea. It's too much, you not really have a chance. Btw: Zeds are so fast that 3 of them died falling while they chased me the last session.

@Melone You could downgrade to 1.7.6.1.

You mean this line? This one I definately crossed. By maybe 15 km. Yep, it's not like you found this parts in a few hours. But all the time is wasted in a few seconds. ^^

Can't remember having seen a line I crossed. But good to know there's one, I'll keep that in mind next time.

I don't know. How could I tell if it was beyond debug? Maybe it was the server trolling me, like usual. ;D

You constantly lose things in DayZ. Also, if you don't know what weapon you like best, you want to try something out? Maybe you even like the idea of having several weapons you chose from? Another point is, its a survival game. Survival wouldn't work without any kind of storage, might it be food or supplies in general, but you NEED storage anyway. Then you don't know what happens and what ammo you'll find. So if you would always find the ammo for the weapon you carry, this would be no problem. This is just not the case... My reason: I just like the variety which many different things offer. And I like to chose what I use when I want to.

Yep, the idea is good. But predefined signs or words should be a way to go.

:D I spent hours fixing my first heli to crash it directly in the hangar where I found it. ^^ Shortly after that I spent hours fixing my second heli which I tried to hide far away in the north. The coordinates were 184 913 or something like this. Far away North-East anyways. I loged out an the day later, when I came back, I spawned at Kamenka. Since I was unsure if the Heli is still there, guess what? Yes I run the whole way from Kamenka to that coordinates. Round about 30km, if I remember correctly (at some point I started to hold the W-Key down by clamping it with a spoon). And of cause, hours of running later, I just had to realize the Heli was gone, all loot with it. I loged out an didn't touch DayZ for almost a week.

Buidings are destructable. Made this in the Editor with some heavy weapons. Don't know whats up with the Stand Alone though. If there's no heavy weapon in, they don't really need to be destroyed.

You also may need medical supplies. Forever just doesn't work without breaking bones and stuff.

Absolutely support this. The game got pretty damn hard for fresh spawns. I mean, I have a ghillie, a NVG, a helicopter, a good share of tents quite spread. I found 5 heli crash sites today (nice new Mi-17 models btw), looted Vybor, Pustoshka and one Airfield. I had no problem finding food, even found medical supplies and a ammo crate at heli crash sites, but after all, the loot is a little low end. I found one Mk48 + ammo, 1 camo clothing, 1 engine parts, loads of soda and bandages, maybe 4 painkiller, 3 morphine, 1 Antibiotics. I shot 80 bullets with the Mk 48 and maybe 5 mags with the G17 and found none in return except one M9 mag and loads of DMR and SVD ammo in an ammo box at one of the heli crash sites, which makes me think, I'm outa ammo soon, at least for my secondary. I got infected once, got layed several times in Vybor (the town almost killed me ^^) and had to recover loads of blood, since sneaking after Zeds not really works well, if you are not going to prone, even at night. So yeah, have to say that the update changed the focus of many things. I believe there only is just one loot pile per heli, since I wasn't able to find more than one/heli crash site. The baracks and other known loot places deliver significant less loot, so most of the time I had the feeling that it wasn't worth the risk and time. Aggroed Zeds now are way harder to get rid off without violence. Atm I'm a little clueless what to do, I just take most ammo with me I can find, regardless of the type. This leads to the need to deposit it somewhere. Im out of tents and I didn't find any yet, so it's hard time to tell whats less important, since basically everything you need became much more rare. Bottom line, basically I like the shift of the focus which the update brought in, but you may either think about increasing at least some of the survivors needs which should be found more often or you decrease the infection rate and the Zed-Aggroing. Ammo for secondary weapons might be needed to be found more often. It hasn't a huge impact on pvp anyway.

I found a heli crash site and searched it for 15 minutes before the server restarted. There was no loot where it used to be, I only found 1 MK 48 Mod and 1 mag for it (which is awesome) maybe 10 m behind. Furtheremore I found 1 Antibiotics on a pilot zed and something to eat on another one. It's interesting to see how zeds roam around the crash site, they no longer just walk away, they stick closer, which is good, effectively forces you to deal with them. But it's pretty difficult to find something if the area is covered with dense grass. So can you say a word what the maximum distance is in which the loot can spawn at heli crash sites? I think I read somewhere that one found stuff kind of like 80 m away. Maybe he exaggerated, but it would take ages to find a NVG under this circumstances. If you are looking for one, you'd probably never find it.

There are other examples. You probably need 3 meals a day, right? How often you need to eat in DayZ? Maybe almost every 6 km? (guessing). That's there "make it harder" will lead to. Not necessarily to more realism. So yeah, some things can be "fixed" or changed, but most of the time, folks always say "make it harder". No one seems to bother what it means. Edit On the other hand you just need some game elements. You just can't make it real, or whatever you think of it is real. Yeah, getting food in the wild is a very hard job. Nope, getting food in a civilisation is not too hard. The civilasation in DayZ struggled. But you have the remains. What is so hard to accept the between? There must be a balance. It is a game which plays between both worlds, between the wilderness and a just fallen civilisation.

The realism argument has its issues. It is a game and it just wont be very realistic in every detail. Just to pick out some things. Okay, you are driving a bicycle around, run into a Zed, it is destroyed. You drive into a lake, it is lost. You drive against some trees, it is broken. So in real life, how often you lost a bike in a lake? How often you destroyed it driving it against a Zed? Another point, broken bones. How often you broke something in real life? How often you fell from a dears stand because you had issues with trying to crouch? ... A game is a game, it has gameplay elements. Those make it more realistic, you actually can break your bones. The point is, would you make it realistic? Would you make it in a way that you almost never (hopefully, never say never) actually have a broken bone? Why would you? Its like implementing features for never using them. This leads to a chain. If you don't ever break it, why would you carry a cure around? Do you, in real life? Do you always have sth against broken bones in you pocket? Just in case ...? So the game in certain ways already is a bit harder as reality. Folks still demand to make it harder. This can be done, but the realism argument is one which not always works. In reality, there would be no Zeds at all. You only can ask: "Is this a cool feature we WANT to have?", because it might be an enrichment for the gameplay. Just to make the point clear, a feature should be measured of how it plays out gameplaywhise, not neccessaily in regards of the difficulty or realism only.

Yep, had the same concerns regarding this. I thought KoS will raise the rarer the loot gets. But we can't foresee everything. Having concerns doesn't mean that they are valid in all detail. So it has been tried. And if it works in a way to reduce KoS, also in the long run, we have proof and the method worked out well. Edit Tweaking English I found two Anti at an airfield, I think. You have to be aware of the new infectous zed type. Don't let them come too close. Edit Found two windshields, several toolboxes (already have one), maybe 10 can of beans, an alice pack in a super market, AKM and ammo, 1 Ghilie, 1 tent in an ATV, 2 Anti, 1 Makarov, M240 rounds for my main weapon on a Zed, bandages, chemlights, flares ... although not anything for my secondaries, which would be M9SD or G17. The patch made me differentiate between Zeds. Those dirty ones are high priority targets. They are infectous and seems to have a better chance of loot. Also, just go north after you spawned. There seems to be nothing to be found in Cherno but death. ^^

@OP I would definitely have written a M4 due to my rushed English to times. And regarding the title: it's still called "a RAZ0R", not "an RAZ0R". Or you missed a comma. Period.

If theres a lot more friendly player interaction, then the update worked. The disappearing stuff bug is a bit older and probably has nothing to do with v1.7.7, at least I know it since 1.7.6.1. This may have to do with the beta patch version, dunno.

Hey peeps, is there an insight to other players journals in planning? Lets say, if you find a surviver dead, will you be able to read what he did? If not, I'd suggest it. Might be interesting. Always loved to read other peoples diaries. >:D What do you think about?

Yep, didn't happen to me with 1.7.7 yet, but with 1.7.6.1. So I try not to lay anything out of hand.

I know, I was just kidding a bit. It probably is a bug which somehow doesn't render the item for you, others may still see it.

Yeah, kick-ass camo. You put it on the ground and it has never been seen again. This also happened to me quite a lot. As I played in a group and I dropped a backpack which disapperad, we figured out that the backpack only was invisible for me. So chances are good that a team mate may save the things that vanished for ya.

Then I'd agree. If he personally somehow marks the base, then, well, sh*t happens. Having a group management system which gives you an option to have a shared map with the group, would make things easier as well. So you could plan the next mischief without having everyone lurking.

Jep, this would be used as base finder #1. ^^ So I'm not a fan of a detailed line tracker.