Ken Bean

There seems to be at least one bug - I got unconscious several times but didn't fall over, the character just stood there, until the timers was gone. Then I run a bit and fall down. - Another bug which happened to me with 1.7.7 was that the infection was cured by resting in a tent, until I logged out. After I logged back in, the infection was back. (happened on a private hive two times)

Yeah, Zeds now are fast and persistent. It's possible to lose them though. Easiest way to get rid of them is in buildings. A barn will do the job. The other way is to run into a dense tree line and to crouch as soon as you enter. You also can make sharp turns. I lost aggroed Zeds by using two trees and running from one to the other, switching to crouch mode and back, but you may need to try longer. Those infective monkey Zeds seems to be more difficult to get rid of. I once had two of them chasing me for 10 minutes. Upright Zeds are a bit easier to lose and also have the habit to die falling from time to time, a good slope can be enough. Quite funny actually. I'd suggest you not to switch back but to try survive. I know, its frustrating but after I died maybe 10 times and starting from scratch, I feel like getting the trick. With my current char I now played almost 4 hours and basically have everything I need, which is knife, hatchet, tool box, matches, binoculars, 1 water bottle, a makarov and some ammo, a map, an alice pack, camo clothing ^^ and last but not least, a tent, which I found just in time before I got infected. If you rest at a tent, there's a chance to get rid of the infection, which worked after a dozen trials. Now I was a bit hunting with my trusty hatchet, since I was quite low on blood, and have maybe 10 pieces of meat. So now I'm gona find a nice place to stay and to stock some food. If I have the tent full, I'm going to seek my fortune. in a radius around the tent which allows me to go back and maybe treat an infection. I need some medical supplies anyway, I don't have anything to cure a broken bone. Yes, it is very difficult with those zeds. If they nailed you in a house with only one entry, you are lucky if you have a hatchet. They constantly spawn new and follow the noise if you are shooting. Also don't face them in the open, they are faster than you, just run from one side to the other, leaving low chances to hit them. But it is fun, really feels like a survival game. One needs to think more, rashed playing no longer works, better think twice, better don't take unneccessary riscs, gearing up now is a major part of the game - which is more fun after all.

And I have no problem with yours, since actually, I don't see a difference between yours and mine. As I read an earlier post of yours you as well seems to have the feeling that atm, it is a tad too much. Besides of that, I love the patch and changes should be minimal. Anyway, every discussion here seems to evolve into some kind of contest. There are some extreme positions being made which sometimes just let me wonder if we all really are playing the same game. Some even seem to find more loot than with version 1.7.6.1. Again, the loot is not my concern, but as said, sometimes I just wonder. I'm not going to make any post in this thread any more. Made my points and leave it be.

Meanwhile folks seems to change loot tables and stuff. Just played on certain "vanilla" server where it was no issue to find gear and zombies were as aggro as on 1.7.6.1. How can I tell if it is one? The mission file downloaded varies from 41 kb to 166. It's strange if you got used to T1000 Zeds and get those softer versions instead. ^^

You didn't say that, but where's the whole pointless casual discussion coming from, if nobody means it? I see that Zeds are a bit Terminator like, do things which are a little akward, actually forcing player to melee fight indoor only. It even can be fun trying to outsneack an aggroed Zed for 10 minutes, but as soon you are infected, fun is over.

I don't see what your video has to do with the version we now have.

Zeds also kick me of my feed while running. While the player not even can switch weapons without standing still. Every player action takes ages. You can't stand up fast, can't switch weapons fast, if you accidentaly hit V or B, you lose lots of time... On the other hand they run and hit with ease. Imho, they are clearly overpowered. Would be okay without the hight infection rate. It feels not really balanced well. Zeds are way too fast. Not just running, also with their attacks. They clitch through ladders and do anything to be an unpredictable target. A machete is a nice weapon and at least indoors very helpfull. If it wouldn't miss that much...

Now you are calling me a troll? Wow, excuse me my friend, but maybe next time try to make a post without personal insults, thanks.

I clearly said that what I want and you tried to pull me into the "CoD" corner. Maybe a little self criticism, before you go on another time on me, would be not bad in my opinion. Have you even read my post? Tried to understand what I was saying? Yeah, this exaggeration thing going on gets really out of hand. When did I say anything nearly into that direction???

No, I already said what I want. I want the Zeds to be nerfed a bit especially the infective ones. Just stop playing the ultra hard dude. We all already know that some of us survived 20 days with empty tin cans only, since the patch is out.

Yeah, the only working way to fight melee is in a house. (Still think this is kind of wrong, isn't it?) Last time I got infected it was at a dears stand. Yes, thank you for your proposal, I'll throw all my loot away and from now on only carry empty tin cans in my whole inventory. Who needs food, morphine, painkillers, soda cans and ammo anyway? Ill just take tin cans instead. You are stumbling so often over morphine that I just throw it away as I find it to make room for empty tin cans... It's a multi tool weapon. Does everything you need. Everyone knows that empty tin cans is everything you need to survive a zombie apocalypse. You can even make mobile phones out of it.

That's true, but with 1.7.7 it shifted to another death match, now the infecting Zeds are the true killer. A survival game should give you a chance to survive. People will lose interest in a survival game which doesn't let you survive. In my opinion Zeds should be nerfed a bit down, since they are too many and in certain points better than you. The melee system now is pretty much on a point where you don't stand a chance in the long run. 3 hits can be enough to sign your death sentence. Zeds are faster than you, can walk through walls and certain fances and they seem to be able to look through walls as well. The only thing that might save you is to prone. (Time you don't have if infected.) And last but not least, they are many and they roam around loot. So after all, you'll have to face them. Given said chances to be infected, you are practically dead starting playing.

True, but get go on a private hive which is rather vanilla and where you not own a base, just try to survive. You'll find loot, but I had 6 trials until I got the basic equipment for surviving (hatchet, matches, knive) and was still missing a water bottle. Then I got infected and what ever you do, if you don't find Antibiotics (very likely), you'll just die soon, as I did 5 times before. If you are playing a character which is "settled", it is still a threat, but it can be dealt with, since you dont need to let them close. In melee fights, you have no chance without getting infected. Zeds are too fast, they run around you as you try to hit. It's like they are faster than you and can better hit. The same time, you can be infected within 3 hits. Taken this together, you not really have a chance. Maybe you can outsneak them, but who has the patience? They are everywhere.

Hey, tell you what? I found yesterday 2 NVGs. Not on a heli crash (searched really a lot), but on a survivor I found dead in a town. Since I know how easily they can be lost and since I know how hard they are to come by, even worse with 1.7.7, I would never go into the forum and demand "The loot should be much rarer." only because I had a lucky day. What do you guys want? That noone ever will find NVG again? Are you then happy?

How many heli crashes you searched? Whats with alle the grass and the distances the loot piles spawn away? I searched a lot and I still think, you either have xray eyes or you are the luckies bastard alive. Note that you not only claimed to have found one NVG, no, you even spoke in plural.

May I ask, where did you find the NVGs? Given the fact where they spawn, how often and how incredible difficult they are to find in dense grass, chances are good that you are talking nonsense.

I just want to say, that the infection rate atm really is a death sentence for a fresh spawns. You probably get infected very soon. If not, you will get infected anyway later. You won't find Antibiotics soon enough. If you are not looking for them, you wont find them. So if you get an infection, you are immediately under the stress to find meds. You don't have an hour since you may have been bleeding and already lost lots of blood. The vision also will get blury and stuff. You'll not find enough food or ammo to fight the Zeds. You most likely wont find all tools you need to cook meat. A hatchet is too weak, since Zeds are fast as heck. Some will need 3 hits, but you'll miss a lot. So as soon as you are infected, you either die quite fast searching or relatively slow trying to find a town. Since running from town to town takes ages ... you get the idea. It's too much, you not really have a chance. Btw: Zeds are so fast that 3 of them died falling while they chased me the last session.

@Melone You could downgrade to 1.7.6.1.

You mean this line? This one I definately crossed. By maybe 15 km. Yep, it's not like you found this parts in a few hours. But all the time is wasted in a few seconds. ^^

Can't remember having seen a line I crossed. But good to know there's one, I'll keep that in mind next time.

I don't know. How could I tell if it was beyond debug? Maybe it was the server trolling me, like usual. ;D

You constantly lose things in DayZ. Also, if you don't know what weapon you like best, you want to try something out? Maybe you even like the idea of having several weapons you chose from? Another point is, its a survival game. Survival wouldn't work without any kind of storage, might it be food or supplies in general, but you NEED storage anyway. Then you don't know what happens and what ammo you'll find. So if you would always find the ammo for the weapon you carry, this would be no problem. This is just not the case... My reason: I just like the variety which many different things offer. And I like to chose what I use when I want to.

Yep, the idea is good. But predefined signs or words should be a way to go.

:D I spent hours fixing my first heli to crash it directly in the hangar where I found it. ^^ Shortly after that I spent hours fixing my second heli which I tried to hide far away in the north. The coordinates were 184 913 or something like this. Far away North-East anyways. I loged out an the day later, when I came back, I spawned at Kamenka. Since I was unsure if the Heli is still there, guess what? Yes I run the whole way from Kamenka to that coordinates. Round about 30km, if I remember correctly (at some point I started to hold the W-Key down by clamping it with a spoon). And of cause, hours of running later, I just had to realize the Heli was gone, all loot with it. I loged out an didn't touch DayZ for almost a week.

Buidings are destructable. Made this in the Editor with some heavy weapons. Don't know whats up with the Stand Alone though. If there's no heavy weapon in, they don't really need to be destroyed.