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Who knows? Only the great wizard ***ji, I think. You will have to wait until he once again congeals from the mists to share his wisdom and POWER with us.

And so the moderators have once again banished the great wizard of black magic, ***ji, into the mists. BUT! How long? How long until ***ji returns to show us his POWER once again?

Its better than ***ji spooging black magic adds all over the forum's backside....

Nah, just call ***ji! he or she can use his/her black magic sorcery to get rid of them all. Then we wont have any more spam! Dare I say it? I think this ***ji might be even more powerful than the blood of Hoxton....AND the ricochet fist!

Why bother with developers? I mean, if this ***ji fellow is so good with black magic, maybe he/she can use it to make the game complete right NOW. Then Dean wont have to wait a whole year to go home, and WE can play the final product immediately.

well, I for one....waitholdon..........*gets up on a soapbox WELL I FOR ONE FIND THIS HIGLY UNPROFESSIONAL! How DARE you decide to leave the testing team A YEAR FROM NOW!? We still have a LOT of alpha testing left to do! Without you on the team, we wont finish testing everything so that the devs know when shit is broke! Don't you CARE about this game, or where it ends up? Without you, we will surely have like, 5 undiscovered, minor, non-game breaking bugs (that are possibly funny or entertaining) that are still around in the final release!!! I AM SOOOOO MAD RIGHT NOW!

LOL!!!! I love the little tacos...I love them goooood.... But I NEEEED tacos. I need them or I will explode! That happens to me sometime. (on topic: yeah, yall need ta chillz out. Its not like this is the end of the world as we know it, starting the collapse of society, and the end of the WORLD........ofwarcraft.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRYnRq2pgLA

awesome, awesome. Just ONNNNNNEEEEEE LIIIIIITTTTLE THING I would like to see, preferably soon... Not a big deal really, just, you know.... REALISTIC BALLISTICS! OH GOD WHY!!???! WHY GOD WHY???!?! I KNOW how to shoot an M4 accurately IRL GOD!!!! WHY, WHY CANT I HIT A TARGET THATS 100 YARDS AWAY, EVEN WITH A PRISITNE ACOG SCOPE!!!!??? GAAAAAhaaaahaaaaahaaa..... *tears and snot streaming from respective orifices. WHY?! WHY is there so much RANDOM DISPERSION!!!! ahaaahaaahaaaa.....Why cant accuracy be based solely on my own in game skill, instead of random chance? WHHHYYYYY!!!! *sarcasm aside, I reaaaaaaaly would like to see realistic ballistics soon.

guys, guys, GUYS!!!! TACOS!!!! discuss...

This thread is now about....TACOS!!! Discuss...

HA!

So the towns actually "spawn loot"? Damn. So what you are telling me, is that you have created a game, that lets us play another game? Its game ception....

I remember seeing a tv show about the collapse of society, one of those "what if" shows, or "xxxxyears after man" or something. Anyway, on this show, they talked about how hoover damn would continue to function without human intervention or maintenance for several years (I don't remember the exact number, but I think it may have been around 10), continuing to produce electricity. However, that does not account for the REST of the power grid infrastructure, ie polls, transformers, etc.

still looking

I recommended the alice system specifically because it is an older system and I think it would fit better with the game. I would expect to see alice gear (if any) in this area of the world. Its a little more dated, and I think it would fit better with the "feel" of the game than a molle system.

I have yet to see it once, and having played on a large variety of servers. It needs to be in ALL of them, ESPECIALLY in privately owned servers to prevent abuse, but also in public for the sake of convenience.

I am not trying to "kill" anything. What I want is to PRESERVE what I see as being the spirit of this game. This thread is an example of people who desire a mature play environment (not mature in the "adult, XXX" sense, but in the base meaning of the word). It is enough already that we have a certain level of immaturity in the player base. I am NOT referring to being handcuffed and force fed poisons. It is a game, and some amount of goofiness, lulz, tomfoolery, or whatever is welcome. Personally, I laughed the entire time when I first experienced bandits trying to wash out my dirty mouth. Nothing can be done to prevent a certain level of immaturity in game. Kids will be kids, will annoy and act or play in a manner that is "douchey". Adding in these feature would be an element of realism. THAT I don't deny. But I personally see ZERO benefit in the addition of nudity, pooping, or peeing in game. When I read a book (which I often do), I can logically assume that at some point, the characters in the story must relieve themselves of bodily waste. It may even be IMPLIED in the text ("and so and so went to the bathroom") But no piece of decent literature I have ever read for the sake of entertainment has EVER laid out in descriptive detail the events that happen. Even most visual entertainment rarely use such visuals, and then only when it is blatantly for the sake of humor (South Park would be an example). But when I watch such a show, I come EXPECTING offensive humor, and therefore do not mind as long as it is done tastefully. There would be nothing tasteful about this in game. It would be done purely with the purpose of offending, and I WOULD find it offensive. I DO NOT WANT TO ENDURE BEING FORCED TO WATCH MY OWN CHARACTER RELIEVE HIMSELF IN A BUSH, CENSORED OR NOT. Just as in the books I read, I can logically assume that my character must at some point relieve himself. I don't need it to actually happen right in my face for me to be more immersed in the game. I KNOW that such things happen. It doesn't need to be shown or explained. Why? because I am a mature adult, and am already well aware of the basics of biological life, and at my age, am FAR beyond the point where I find the simple act funny or fascinating or interesting. Whereas a show like "south park" can make such things be funny because of CONTEXT, here, it has no context; its just an action, there for the sake of being an action. I DO NOT WANT TO BE FORCED OR RISK BEING FORCED TO HAVE A PLAYER EXERCISE DEPRAVE AND DISGUSTING ACTS THAT BORDER ON THE OUTRIGHT FRINGES OF BIZZARE AND TWISTED SEXUAL FANTASY. Again, with the example of south park, there is an episode called "Human Cent-I-Pad", in which cartman is given an I-Pad that can do everything, including shitting in Kyle's mouth. This was a funny episode! Why? CONTEXT. There was a POINT to the disgusting humor. Its PURPOSE is to provoke laughter, and is not done for the SOLE purpose of offending anyone.. In addition, it is happening to a fictional, comic relief character that I have no real empathy for. IN GAME such an action would lack ANY context, and would be, at best, the worst kind of offensive griefing/trolling (something we have enough of as it is), and at worst, a kind of sexual rape done vicariously through our characters. EITHER way I find the concept beyond ridiculous. AGAIN I will say that if you disagree, you are free to do so. But please do not derail my topic, which I made specifically so that like minded individuals can express their desire to NEVER see these things in game. If you feel that a "minority" is going to ruin it for the majority, then by all means make your OWN equivalent thread with an opposing viewpoint and purpose.

Lol. So much voice echo in this.

Firstly, thanks for the input. But secondly, I feel I have to disagree, insofar as that I not only want to see this in game, but that I think it SHOULD be in game. There is no reason to deny players options. And while I agree that we should all play smart, and not carry things we don't need, I don't imagine many people would pass this option up in a "real" situation if it were available to them. A utility belt such as this enables a person to travel light, carry many essentials that are easy to access, out of the way (in that they do not inhibit movement), and in an organized fashion. With JUST the items shown in the twelfth picture, I can carry all that I need to survive, potentially for several days. A knife, paracord, compass, map, small food items, multitool, flashlight, spare batteries, and more. Having such an item in game would do the exact same for players as it would in real life. With it, we could conceivably carry all that we truly NEED without a backpack (which again, are soon to be a lot more rare), keeping other essentials back at our camp, OR simply have a backpack with more room in it. Again, I would also like to emphasize that the great benefit of having this additional storage could be offset by the fact that not only do you need a belt, clips, AND the item itself to attach to the belt, but also by making the belt and clips rare finds. I still see no reason why the item should NOT be in game at some point, or why the option shouldn't be available.

I get what you mean, but consider that many items that have no purpose now, will be a necessity later: cooking pots (4 slots), frying pans (4 slots), matches (one slot), fire wood (?), stones (2 slots, not entirely sure of purpose), knives (2 slots, may be needed for hunting?), tools (however many), repair kits (later, guns will be found in varying conditions), medical (varying slot consumptions, will likely become more complex and fleshed out later) and any other item I am forgetting that is later added. I would rather not be forced to carry these necessities while abandoning other items that may be no less important. The game is still in its early development stages, but eventually there may be many things we need to survive. Adding in this system will add a layer of depth to the process of becoming well equipped, simply by affording the player more options, and more things to find. I am an avid outdoorsman myself, well trained in the arts of land navigation and basic survival skills (shelter construction, snare traps, etc etc). While I am not here to brag about my outdoor l33t skillzorz, I WILL say that I own all of the equipment in the pictures, and would not want to go out in the wilderness without them if they were available to me. If they were NOT available, I would make every effort to find these items (in the event of some kind of collapse of society). No, you CANT carry EVERYTHING possible. But you CAN carry everything you NEED, and this is an item that would help one do so. Why WOULDNT you want to have a utility belt like this? I am not suggesting that players should be able to carry everything in the game. But some kind of system allowing us to carry more items will be needed later on I think. Soon, backpacks will be a rare find. Food lying about will be more scarce. Hunting and cooking food may become a more viable option than searching for canned beans to keep oneself fed. Having a method (which is earned through searching for the items) to carry more, and in a realistic fashion, will, I think, help to flesh out the survival aspect of the game. I would even be willing to say that these items, being IDEAL to a survival kit, should be rare finds. But once acquired, highly beneficial.

Fair enough, you aren't saying you want or don't want anything in particular. yes, there are only 4 positive responses, but the thread is still young; its pointless to draw any conclusions so soon. And I feel there IS a need for an open letter: I am ADAMANTLY opposed to these things for specific reasons already mentioned. I am legitimately concerned that some or all of these features are at the least, being considered, if not already planned. And lastly, I asked for those with opposing views to refrain from sharing them here, because I SPECIFICALLY did not want the topic derailed from its intended purpose by discussion, weather the discussion is mature and respectful or trollish. There are already threads where such discussion is taking place. HERE I intend for those against the idea to unite.

Bump. Anybody else have anything to add? Love it, hate it? Honestly surprised more people aren't chiming in....

Don't care about beans. Please read the below statement, which was made at the very beginning. You have an opinion, and are entitled to it. But here I respectfully ask that you refrain from sharing it (there is already a place to show support for the opposing view). I created this thread PURELY and SOLELY for the purpose of those who do not want this feature to be able to say so, EN MASS, to show that an overwhelming portion of the community feel this way. If that portion turns out to be a minority, than few will respond, and it will therefore show. IF YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT, PLEASE SIGN YOUR SUPPORT BELOW. IF YOU DISAGREE, AND WANT TO HAVE THESE FEATURES, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING ON IT HERE. YOU CAN DO SO ELSEWHERE. THIS THREAD IS FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT WANT THESE FEATURES.

yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes wantwantwantwantwantwant nownownownownownownow beansbeansbeansbeansbeans I reeeeeaaaaalllly cant wait for the day. Cannot happen soon enough. I SOOOOOOOO want to hunt down other players with a bow and arrow, uber sneaky skill shots to the head ftw. hurryhurryhurryhurryhurryhurry

is there a game file for the map? It would be awesome if I could just copy the appropriate game file, say for the complete version of the ingame map, and have it printed. My dad works for a civil engineering firm. Id bet dollars to dimes they would have some means of reading and printing the file.