I have 0 murders and 0 bandit kills lifetime, HOWEVER I have seen other players, and approach cautiously, or if I have not been spotted, I retreat. I am not expecting this to last forever, but if the only thing to do in this game was collect food and kill zombies I would no longer be playing. I now have an AK-74 and 8 mags. I am about ready to go on the offensive. And it will not be on the newbie beaches. Killing someone with nothing I want, and only a markarov to defend themselves is not even fun. Getting the drop on someone who is kitted out, is. PvP (the threat of death) makes this mod, whether you like it or not. Zombies, if you can make it into a building are not even a threat as long as you carry a proper amount of ammo.