SoulHunter (DayZ)

Yeh.. Because as you could see from the interviews, peeps who tried the game so far got confused how the game actually works. Most of them have not played the mod before.. And many of them did not know english very well, so they could not understand/give so much attention to the warnings that pop up whenever they would fail to do something. They could not understand what the problem is. Most of the peeps there could not do anything else other than just running around lawl. And Dean took this case as the ammo pack is so much complicated for the peeps to understand they need to click "Empty" I guess. I mean.. It is not like all the peeps who would buy the game know english very well or have an experience of dayz from the mod. Many ppl will have no idea about it when they start playing it. I think with some tutorials people would learn the basics far easier. It is not like emptying an ammo box is a very complicated action. It is just something that is not in other famous games like most of the other features of StandAlone. Emptying ammo will not be the only thing that the peeps will get stuck in the first time. Let's then change the whole game and make it CoD. I think tutorials on the case is the key to solve this issue.

DayZero is a mod of Dayz mod which is also a PvP mod for ArmA2. If you do not seek a survival game but a broken PvP mod, then yeah.. You are just fine then.

He is clearly saying that the 3rd person view is generally used for quite cheating to look beind corners/walls and sorta. It is a progress and he also says that he plans to take some steps to prevent such issues as much as possible, which is a WIN for the community I think! =) Of course I do not also expect this issue to be solved in 2 sec. The gaming communities/markets have been messing with this issue all along and even though there are some radical implementations out there the case is not completely solved for every game out there.

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1kzy02/sa_gamescom_gameplay_with_rocket_gamestar_10min/cbukwxm?context=3 Yeh ikr! /Win We kinda posted in the same time btw lawl: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/146017-first-vs-third-person-poll-post-your-vote-here-after-reading-dslyecxi-video-discussion/page-2#entry1447935 That is now how a community should always be like! (:

Dont get lost in that post, that is just his personal opinion. And; WE MADE IT GUIS!!! /Win /Flex Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1kzy02/sa_gamescom_gameplay_with_rocket_gamestar_10min/cbukwxm?context=3

Umm.. Maybe them hating you has nothing to do with you being a part of DayZero? -.-"

More enterable buildings, more game-play opportunities, better parformance. But I warn you.. The community of that mod just sucks. The mod is like FPS and average time to live is about max half an hour. You better bring some of your friends into the game if you would decide to join the mod.. You would def need some team-mates there.

I used to play there as well. DayZRP's FPV servers are also an awesome experience so far!

And that is the problem. Do you know why the streamers generally play the mod with TPV? Because they want to exploit. They want to have as many advantages as possible over other players, so they can kill many people and entertain their followers.. No one would like to watch someone who constantly dies each 3 seconds. Almost none of who play the game in 3rd person has another reason to use it.

All of what is written up^ there sums up my point. That is what I was talking about. If you would decide reading my post, you would easily understand that I was not comparing those games but giving some solid examples of fail MMOs which do no run on server side, and the fates of which are not so good.

Exactly. Here is an example of HackFestation which is recorded via live-stream; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWh9i-C0an0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4yqFaZ5pI8 The point of this case being that if the game's db would not be ported to server-side, DayZ Standalone would be just like this. They added new ways to prevent hacking.. added PB and whatnot.. YET everything (speed running, being invisible, being immortal, ESP, no clipping, Flying, Rape Killing and every other possible way of hacking EVEN TODAY) is ultimately possible. This was a need for the game and they went with that way. There will be ofcourse hackers, but not like the ones gaming community sees in games like HackFestation Stories so far. People should learn to be grateful.

He is not a game.

What do you mean by that?

What you wrote has nothing to do with the quote of the person you wrote to. You are trolling in an important thread. Stop it.

The only point I'd agree with you, OP is the HUD case. Yet even Dean lastly said that they will add such stuff to keep players constantly informed instead of bugging them via texts popping up. It is pre-Alpha and what you want is meant to be done anyway. I do not understand what makes StandAlone worse than mod. Lets check the changes; -Better graphics (expected as you mentioned) -Ammo packs (will make it harder to just get in PvP and KoS others around for no valid reason) -Being able to fire while moving (More game-play opportunities) -Almost all the buildings are enterable (More game-play opportunities) -Rare ammo/weapon (will make it harder to just get in PvP and KoS others around for no valid reason) -Adding craftable stuff like in Minecraft/7dayz2die (dozens of them) along with new radio implementation/animations (More game-play opportunities) -Zombies are being re-done because they are announced officially to be broken. (This is a zombie game. So..) -The zombies being harder (You like to be terrified. I am guessing that proper non-hacker and harder zombies may you enjoy.) -Items getting damaged while shot on clothes. (will make it harder to just get in PvP and KoS others around for no valid reason) -Need of cooperation with other people more than before. (will make it harder to just get in PvP and KoS others around for no valid reason & More game-play opportunities)

That is the best idea I've ever seen. I've before made a similar idea. (Making such peeps, zombies items not only invisible, also out of the info that the clients can get from the server when it should not be possible.So then if your character is not looking in a room in a house, then the items that are there are not displayed by your client because server would not send the info of them.) However someone said that it would require an amazing coding and might cause performance issues. I hope that sorta stuff is possible. Making peeps, zombies and everything else invisible in third person which where in FPV you cannot see is the best thing to do imo. :beans:

Didn't read due to the attempt of you getting into a personal conversation in a public thread. I may welcome you in my mail-box. Please remind me if you would ever decide to go on-topic. As for being on-topic, you are still being off-topic here. :)

Fixed your text for you. ;)

You do not still understand the reason of this thread existing. No one here bashing 3rd person. People here are just pointing out the way of 3rd being used to exploid as I am mentioning 8th time now. I like 3rd person and prefer over 1st person as well. I am a 3rd person user. But I also dislike the fact that it is being used to exploit. Yet you are still saying "This thread is not only for 1st person lovers" "why not liking 3rd person" and such even though most of the people here I assume love it so much as well. Pointless post is pointless. As you keep ignoring the reason of this thread existing, you are still off-topic material here.

But this thread exists for that purpose. What are you then doing here? That being game-breaking for some aspects of the game-play is the reason of this thread being existing. The people here discussing to solve this "non-ideal" issue. That is why this thread exists. Maybe some people do not like to have some non-ideal options even though it is open to everyone in the game. As an example of the case, people in HackFestation Stories stopped playing the game due to the amount of hackers even though almost all the players were hackers. Everyone had the same options. ESP, Aimbot, No Clip and whatnot. But there were still complaints about the case because "some people" did not like this fact. That is the reason of this thread exists. Some people do not like this aspect of 3rd person being used to exploit over and over again.

As you can see you yourself admitted that it is not nice of 3rd person being used to exploit to gain more advantage over other people as well as the aspect of which is not what makes TPV fun.

But which is the main point of this thread as I am now mentioning the 3rd time. Therefore I'm asking again:"What are you doing in this thread?" Just being curious because you seem pretty much more than off-topic. No one here says that 3rd person is no fun, but a game-breaker in regards to PvP aspect of almost any game. It is not cry. Believe it or not, like it or dislike it, It still is a literal fact that 3rd person is used to cheat to look behind walls and anything else to gain more advantage over someone else in the games. That is the main reason of this thread being existing. (4th time I am meantioning this now.) Due to which, you are being off-topic here.