Sammy101

I can see your logical statements in your OP. However this is Chernarus, we're on the end of the percentage of the human population as we know it, with no official military/government to guide us. We have nothing but ourselves or our friends/families. I as sure wouldn't trust some guy I just randomly see on the other side of the street. Indications of physical and facial expressions would also factor in on whether I would encounter him or not. But we do not have that much of a luxury. All we have is voice chat, direct type, and what gun they have. And when neither of you speak nor have the time to communicate in the three seconds you see each other, I would go with shooting the other person. :)

"Yeah great example of a country..." Err, people are people and whatever happens within that country does not matter as...PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE. You discriminate against them because they are from that particular country? It shouldn't matter where they are from, they can be from mars so long as they are human. Just because of a cities social structure does not differentiate a human being from a human being. Your argument is denied. And if you refute this point that just shows your prejudice/racism/discrimination against a certain people for being in a certain country. And also I'm just stating that occurrences happen. I did not highlight the banning of any video games. I merely stated that video games can create emotional disruptions in human mental health. That obviously doesn't happen to all people, in fact it's more like medical drugs. It works for a lot of people, does bad stuff to few. And I suggest you google the information yourself. Just because an overturn in 2007 happened doesn't mean psychology doesn't exist.

More or less show's you are the one that you describe in your own words. Cannot fathom a legitimate debate?

No the argument is, is that video games can cause be mental instability in people to do things that are in the video games. I'm not saying everyone will do it, a huge majority won't. But there will be cases of people killing because of violence. And just because the countrys ban things because of stuff like that doesn't matter. It's the fact that people do it at all, not the countries actions.

People are people. Are you saying certain people are not as good as other people? Are you saying that Thailand are inbreds and resort to violence just because they live there? You sick prejudice douche bag. Anyway google it your damn self you moron, then you can see for yourself.

You need proof for battleye to do anything..And that's not much proof.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/08/04/us-crime-thailand-grandtheftauto-idUSBKK22888820080804 BAM. Just google this shit man, it's not hard.

I think you guys need an attitude change. This is coming from a bandit who kills and murders people for entertainment, so hear me out. The last few days a large number of people have been getting Global Bans from Battleye. Within this large quantity there were manys hackers. But there were also innocent people. I kept posting in that huge thread about global bans which got over 700 replies in a couple days. The majority who posted in that thread did get banned falsely, and they were trying to figure out their problem(s) on what to do. I shake my head to the dozens upon dozens of people who trolled and replied coldly to those who were confused and innocent. Those who replied harshly should be ashamed of yourselves because of your rude behavior to players who just were wanting to play DayZ like you. Of course you don't know who a damn hacker is on this forum, because everybody can make up a story. But when a thread gets 700+ replies with many people claiming false bans and trying to organize themselves about it, I think it would give a hint as to your minds of what was going on. And if not, you could at least have the decency to act as a human being on this forum, instead of role-playing as the garbage and shit you play as in the actual game. It even turns out Battleye announced they were sorry for the false bans, and are acting accordingly. I'm a bandit, I kill people and act evil. But staying kind and cautious instead of obnoxious and ignorant makes you look like less of an ass of yourself. tl;dr you guys are acting like losers to your fellow brethren - shapen up.

They don't have to be friendly, but they don't have to be mean about it either.

Lol can you say lameeeeeeeeeeeeeee? How pathetic.

When it's already been stated multiple times as to how he wasn't using hacked items, didn't hack, conveyed hacking, and played with a hacker and etc (basically ALL OF YOUR POINTS) in previous posts in this thread, and then some retard posts the same damn thing again, I tend to be uncivil. I'm sorry if I damaged your feelings, but you need to read the thread entirely before making a moron of yourself. And I mean it, I am sorry.

Your type of post has already been stated and cleared as stupidity in previous pages of the thread. Learn to read and then post.

When people got banned in the last ban wave there were probably hundreds of threads popping up for ban appeals. While I'm sure some hackers were banned in this update, many are actually innocent. To the guy exclaiming "no arma 2 vet has gotten banned", my friend has just recently been banned by the patch, and he's played Arma since the first. There was no thread with over 600+ replies in it last time Battleye did the bans. You'd see a shitload more of hackers complaining in ban appeals because they were actually banned. Something is wrong, and all you people trash-talking those that perhaps are innocent of everything is just rude and does not help the DayZ Community grow at all. And to retort anyone saying that this thread doesn't help grow the community, it does. It created at first a reasonable discussion of talk about who was banned and asking if people were also innocent. Now it's just a bunch of retards spewing gibberish because they think anyone banned was a hacker. -note, I have not personally been banned myself because I stayed on an earlier patch.

I think he wasn't questioning about why he posted a kill video, but more of a "why are you posting such a lame video?" Anyway, yeah he's playing on a recruit server, I don't give a shit if he does, considering Ijust pick whatever server is up and join. This more often than not leads to crosshairs or third person or etc activated. The only thing that gets on my nerves is him sniping in Elektro. If it were hackers, yeah sure, that'd be cool. But they aren't. It's some dude sitting on a hill killing people that just have spawned. Considering his weapon I don't think he belongs down there anymore. If he was just like them, sure, that's cool, inexperienced fighting the inexperienced. But it's not.

I never said he should be banned, and I have just explained to you twice now on why he matters and not the rest of the other people doing it. They have no following. Jeez man haven't you ever heard of influence? He is not responible for his subscribers actions. He is responsible for placing the thoughts into their heads. Influence > propaganda > etc. Are you really this blind? Alll I'm stating is that he has a more important youtube account, and if he blatantly went around screaming hacking is good guys, it's okay to hack, then I'm sure many of his followers would follow. BUT! He didn't say that, which is why this is a benign thing, and why he shouldn't be banned. It's because he is influential that he must be looked at. You don't want to take out the low tier bottom class drug addict. You want to get the crime boss who sells the damn drugs. My gosh, people with such acute minds today. edit: Also, for your entertainment: http://rense.com/general41/grands.htm

There was originally a huge thread about this where some streamers (towlie) were getting butthurt of people questioning the actions of SeaNanners. In the end he did the right thing and got rid of the hacked weapons so I say it's okay. But he does have influential purposes and should take that noted not lightly.

I think he's whining more on abmin actions than him getting banned, at least, that is what his argument evolved into.

Calm down, it's not like anyone is going to make another thread on the stupidity of which this already is in itself. The thread is here and you're just adding to the situation by replying to me. You added your opinion to defend him, thus creating more blight that was according to you not needed because this is not the proper place for it. I suggest you stop posting if you really think we should not post here about off topic rambles that you so happen to include yourself in.

You are just repeating what I all know already. What we are questioning is his morales and identification with the hacker (at least I am). I only speak for myself but you need to stop generalizing that we are all morons who don't know about rules and guidelines that Rocket has integrated. Please stop being a block head and realize I am talking more on a social level than just that he needs to be banned.

Oh please, I'm just saying morale justifications should be brought up. And anyway, I don't give a damn on if he should be punished, I'm just letting you know that it still does not excuse it. You get real.

Again you misinterpret my message. Having a kid and creating a youtube channel have the same meaning as in you created them and you have to own up to the decisions it makes. And no, that's not just being a kid. There were several murders that happened when children played GTA, because they thought it would be cool and neat to actually kill someone in real life. I'm not for propaganda much, but some of the violence is happening because of violent video games; desensitization. And I pointed out exactly what you just said, this is being a thread because he is famous on Youtube, are you daft? So yeah If you cannot understand the logic of creating something and not taking account for all that it does, then you are certainly ignorant of anything and everything.

Fake his personality? Are you implying he promotes hackers and using hacked items in DayZ? If so then you're being ignorant of the whole situation right now. And if you give birth to a child and claim parenthood over it, you are liable for any and all damages it creates and makes. And although you are semi-correct about violent video games making people more violent, it is shown some people actually do become more violent for playing video games. I remember as a child I used to be more rowdy and wild whenever I played Twisted Metal at my friends house. Not a great example however it still stands.

Like Cyanyde pointed out, he didn't keep the gear, he didn't kill anyone with it, nothing went bad outside the triangle of people that were involved. However his actions have a lot of influence. Such as directors of commercials using actors or stars to support their product. It's influence to people who look up to him, and thus he has liabilities for what he created; youtube channel with over a million subscribers. If it were some other random person I don't think the people arguing that he did something wrong would be as solid in their offense. But he has a LOT of viewers, and that like many people have already said, causes influenced and promotion of hacking, from the interactions. He's a good guy, and I personally don't think he should be outright banned, but the people defending him should realize he has to be liable for his channel. Perhaps he shouldn't have uploaded the video. Nevertheless, I personally don't think he should be banned.

Lol that's awesome. Apparently he's making quite the name for himself(s) considering there are multiple videos of the axe murderer on Youtube.

Lame joke, but I suppose your statement afterwards is alright. :P