shagohad

it would be really fun to only have direct communication and radios if they were dont well (like ACRE perhaps) however, blocking software is tricky and as the OP said there would be workarounds. For a server event or a private hive where people can be trusted to play the rules on honour code alone then it could work. Disabling it across the game would I think make it frustrating for people who want to shoot the shit with their friends as they traverse epic distances in search of beans

before all the mods that gave you pink SuVs and NPcs and other shit there were mods that just fixed how shitty vanilla was. or just adapted loot spawns or other small mechanics to make the game more intersting. I would have stopped playing dayz much earlier if not for mods. It will be the same here

the fact is that game isnt that intersting if you kill everyone you meet. PvP is really fun but its equally rewarding to mix it up with randoms and mess around with the new mechanics like handcuffs, force feeding, ect. Of course a lot of players arent going to do much of this and at the moment its a bit difficult as high grade loot is a bit too easy to get but this will hopefully change

make a private hive when they are allowed, and have it be a PvE. Seem fine to me. I wont play there but you are welcome to it. At the moment though I dont take any server seriously that tries to put artificial rules up.

great thread A+

are we talking about a hacked A2 solution? or one that provides sginificant visual feedback ect. honestly man, this is like a coke vs pipsi argument, i for one will be playing on a private hive 1st person server with a small comunity as soon as that is possibel and I will be loving it. I dont want other people to haev to play 3rd everyone do what they want to do to have fun :)

its seems hilarious to me that you bring up realism in a discussion of the 3rd person mode in dayZ and arma when that mode allows you to look over walls, cliffs, through windows, over ledges, ect. without ever exposing yourself or even moving (just head panning) this is why just keep the hives separate, arguments like this make no sense to me as a 1st person player and they never will. We are playing a game that gives you a head look function. I go an play other shooters now (also 1st person) and I feel claustrophobic compared to Arma. Leave the 3rd person community to their broken gamemode and have done with it. They are aware of the exploits and still want to play it so just let it be.

Why make a new thread? why even discuss it. If we are talking about significant development time to implement an LoS feature then just keep it separate as it is now. 3rd person is clearly a silly way to play a permadeath game, you outlined why OP. It makes the PvP a farce. If players are willing to accept this because every now and then they will be on the giving end rather than the receiving in a fight then let them. I think both player bases would rather work be done on what makes dayz what it is (tents, cars, hunting, persistence) and not on their preferred view mode. I think the majority of 1st person players are there for a level of immersion that you only get with 1st person. LoS has nothing to do with it. Really this is just going to be another thread arguing over which is superior, its a waste of time, keep them separate. I'm happy to play with a smaller group of players who take the game more seriously

put it in yer hands and you can access it, unfortunately this doesn't work as well with ammo boxes as they have more slots than you can see (more than 6)

The most fun I ever had in dayZ was on a private hive. My group of friends played there as well as some clans and some other just groups of friends. Basically that server was faction warfare. Vehicles, weapons, supplies, tents all were constantly being contested. If a group had vehicle you wanted you would set an ambush in their preferred spots. It honestly got to the point where you could almost predict another groups behaviour. It was sersioulsy amazing. My point is it wasn't the persistence of any given character, but the persistence of an ongoing story about separate player factions and lone wolfs on that server. This was partly due to a community and a private hive, but you also have to realise the standalone at the moment has no basic persistence (tents, vehicles, ect.) so yes there is no progression past the clothes on your back. With the persistent features you can start working towards and maintaining server goals and its a lot more fun :)

how the fuck are you a forum mod?

nice work, I like the interior building sounds I spent most of my dayZ time playing a dayZ mod (mod of mod) that had JSRS enabled. Some of the great things from that were the booming sounds of shots that you could hear from really far away and the crump of explosions near and close. JSRS also had similar indoor/outdoor effects (just with weapon sounds) and its little details like that which make the game come alive :)

U TELL EM APE, U TELL EM GOOD

i spawned, tried to beat some lady to death. she objected. i felt bad. gave her all my clothes and my baseball bat. am i hero?

says the guy with the "lol fags" gif...

This would make for an incredibly fun server, but not necessarily a fun game (if it was a global thing)' I have always wanted to have a server like that where the players agree to just not use other VOIP and jsut use ingame, maybe increase the radio spawns a little once they are implemented it would be epic, so much more planning, coordination, practice. I think it would be cool as fuck

it depends on the community, my experience with BMRF and DayZ Redux was that both communities had a strong base of players who were interested in playing the game. This happens organically unfortunately but the small communities on private hives help. Please dont take my sarcastic comments out of context. You either didnt read what I had posted or just dont understand sarcasm....it was pretty obvious dude

the people replying here are hilarious "oh the big boys are up north" ooooo scary, "only pussies do this in a video game". Admittedly this is partly due to the OPs language but cmon guys, listen to yerself. The issue is a serious one, unfortunately people dont want to "lose" at this game. Being held up or attacked means you might die! you might lose! your KD will be ruined forever. This kind of attitude is fixed by private communites for the most part where people are interested in participating in the player interaction part of the game, features like inability to log near players helps as well. Combat logging is worse than any kind of KoS fresh spawn killing. For example, the other day on a low pop server a few of us were looting Balota. There is a body in the barracks, due to a hilarious bug the body which was fully geared is crouched, and moving its head back and forth (it was super spooky hehe) Guy with axe who is server hopping logs into barracks and starts looting, we see this and move in, he enters the room with the body and starts axing it yelling over sidechat things he must think to be hilarious, over direct one of my friend starts yelling "dont axe me! dont axe me!" guy thinks this is funny and continues axing the corpse and talking shit. At this point we are just standing at the barracks windows behind him watching with bemusement. He turns around, sees us watching him. and you guessed it, logs instantly. like instantaneously logs....i swear he must have a macro bound for it, or maybe its all that practice. ladies and gents, alt f4ing is the worst, just dont do it.

Keep both, there will be 1st person servers. It is in many ways a more logical way to play this game (you invest a lot of time into a character, why allow someone to look at and then kill you so easily) but people enjoy both. I have played 1st person only in the mod for a very long time, the issue is servers are often under pop. Im just curious, where do all you 1st person advocates go? all coming out of the woodwork here but maybe instead of just talking about it, if you agree it gives other players an advantage, don't just use it as well, find a 1st person server.

This may be something already planned but would it be possible to look through say the PU scope as a sort of binocualr alternative even if you dont have a moisin? You could hold it in the hand slot and peer through it perhaps :)

yeah tbh i feel like it must be planned, with the way the inventory works it just makes sense. Does the flashlight mod even work? cant attach it to anything for some reason

just bumping this, development on the mod is continuing :)

lol yeah, not much VIP goin on anymore, more like a Guerilla war :), IComrade knows what im talkin bout' :)

lol yeah that was Redux highlight for sure :)

lol Jalen, did you appeal your ban? Thought id post some footage (its pretty poor quality :P), a couple people record on the server so you will see your death every now and then if you watch the forums and post asking who got ya' this is us ambushing the heli. Lack of 50cal and and semi auto snipers makes it hard to take down heavy vehicles so it takes some careful planning :) the huey is usually in the hands of a a big squad so we are fighting a guerilla war against them at the moment. There is lots of friendly rivalry hence the jubilation at taking it out. ambushing a different group of guys in a Vodnik (armoured car) set up all the tank traps, the guys in it challenged the server to take them out, told us all the route some action with chloroform, an item developed by the Redux devs, it knocks a player out for a few minutes and you can carry them around and do what you want with them ;)