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I don't see how using them incorrectly would be netualizing a possible threat without killing them and than using it as a chance to figure out their intentions as well as if they truly are a threat.

Well I wouldn't say its OP as all it does is counter concealment, but I see it more as a way to keep snipers for completely dominating certain areas.

I have a question, is English your second language? cause I'm not sure what your point is with this post.

well first if I may ask could you clean up your post to be a little less flame bait. and not everyone is trying to kill everyone, its just dayz lacks features that encourage pre-made groups to work or bring in randoms and supports just killing them off. For the record I try to communicate with players before shooting them, this includes if i'm being shot at. (I'll find cover and try to get within voip range and talk to the guy/gal.) Now the problem I see is that if your within voip range players will count you as a threat since your so close but how else are we to show we aren't threats ?.?

Good sir, I think you are missing the point that meeting truly friendly players in-game and grouping with them just isn't a viable option without the use of 3rd party applications. Now I've only meet 1 guy who didn't shoot me on sight but use direct comms and the only reason he didn't kill me was cause I didn't have a gun. He even said that after we meet up with his friend. so 1 out of at least 100 players I've meet hasn't killed me on sight seems kinda fucked up. And if it wasn't for the fact that I'm insane. I would have given up trying to meet random players and team up with them without the use of 3rd party apps. meeting random players and grouping with them in-game should be just as supported and murdering them in cold blood. And if you notice a lot of the complaints are because the game supports killing the guy much more so than teaming up with him/her.

Also if I might add there are no non-lethal options for PVP. I mean look at APB and how they do LTL, I think something similar would be good as well as the option to arrest/detain someone would mean we could punish bandits/ mug/ and interrogation of players without having to kill them or risk them killing us since they can't use their weapons anymore and hopefully not alt-f4 as it would prevent the esc menu from coming up like being knocked out.

taken from the wiki: "Crouch and enter first person view, look at the ground ahead of you, press G to open your gear and try to place the tent. It wont work the first time, so move back a little step using your S key and try again while your gear window is still open. Try this like 5-10 times, works! It is possible to place tents very close to trees, even under them, also, the area doesn't have to be perfectly flat." Hope this helps.

dual weilding would be pointless as you would be technically not able to ADS and shoot accurately with them.

stop trying to grief other players

Your right about they wouldn't have a huge sign saying they are but you would get a gut feeling weather or not you can trust the guy as well as how he acts and talks, as well as body movements and other subtleties that can not be represented in-game without forcing them upon the player. I hate how dayz is black and white with no grey, I hate the KOS mentilty and how players are saying if you want to group up, do it out of game. Well grouping should be 100% possible and supported in-game, meta-gaming shouldn't be needed to be a friendly player cause it certainly isn't needed for bandits or KOS playstyles. Edit: the fear of pvp is needed but KOS isn't.

servers with direct comms disabled should be blacklisted

Yes, cause someone who helps you out is obviously a threat to your survival. I bet you condone those tring to kill off freeside trading as long as they clam its better for their survival.

I don't complain about PVP but the effect the KOS mentality is having on players.

I thought zombie path finding was fixed in 1.7?

you should have just left the server after dieing so the POS hopper would get no gear for you. I say if you kill a player within x amount of time joining or are killed while loading, the bodies auto hide, this would than mean killing players by server hopping has no loot gains and logging out while about to die means you can't get your gear back.

justified killing for the greater good is different that cold blooded murder.

I don't see why people are against the idea of hunting bandits. I mean rocket said he wants us to do the work, yet people seem against the idea of people forming a group and hunting bandits, to the point where they only point out the flaws of the current system instead of helping us find ways to id bandits without getting everyone killed.

Okay, so i understand zombies be able to knock you out for under 9k blood but why is the timer long enough to the point where you are pretty much screwed? I mean wouldn't the short timer be better in terms of gameplay? (I mean as it stands right now I would love to just hit the respawn button and be done with it.)

that seems odd cause my hourglass is always just long enough for the zombie to make me bleed and kill me.

did you just defend the KOS mentility? O.o Now I understand that it is the better option to robbing them. However maybe something should be done about that so robbing them is the better option?

However I bet they wouldn't kill you, if you were willing to share and a generally kind as well as the subtle signals you give off reinforce that your not a bad person. (you tend to forget that people also respond to kindness very well.)

well I can say that from my personal experience. Is when you start out you have no idea whats going on, and my first thought was get some help from the first person I meet. So I go running along the coast and no clue where I am, I come across a city which I don't learn till later is electro. Well I meet a guy at the hospital but we didn't speak the same language, so i walk away and climb the ladder and than on the roof I see another person but before I can type, he shoots me dead. This was way back before direct chat was working. When I died, I made a point that I will never kill someone who doesn't shoot me.However the kill has left me very biased against bandits.

So having players police other players is bad and we should all just let bandits continue doing what they are doing?

weapons wise, I would be screwed (although I do have a lengthy bit of lead pipe), I would most likely go to where I work and hold up there.

Okay, so I have only 2 things to say. One: adopting the kill on sight mentality does kind of ruin interactions with other players as you go straight for entering in armed combat with them. Two: I have seen a lot of threads commenting on PVP or more often than not the KOS mentality end up in almost flamewar like threads. I mean we should be able to talk about it and how it affects other players in a civilized manner.