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I agree Ozelot is hard headed, very stubborn in his opinions and is seemingly pretty rude sometimes lol but he does bring up a good point on whether or not less ammo, degrading shoes and etc will slow down extreme PvP and KoS. I guess we really wont know until comes out and we know the other dynamics of the game. I think it would be of great benefit for the SA if we can stay on topic and discuss this while keeping personal issues out. For now the we can only make opinons based off the mod. And imo if you put way less ammo and degrading shoes in the mod as is it could possibly increase PvP and KoS. And i think the only difference between a mod with less ammo and degrading shoes and the current mod is a less ammo mod would leave fresh spawns defensless against spawn killers and allow even more domination from clans and teams.

Its not really about blaming the select spawn system for deaths, its about the deathmatch style of play it pushes. If people spawn in to a deathmatch then the whole game becomes a death match. Right now with select spawns people spawn into an area (Bolota, Cherno, Elektro) trying to get decent loot. They spawn in with bullets flying, people trying to get revenge kills and others just killing whoever they can. If you manage to get out of there alive your not going to suddenly switch over to "Friendly" mode. Your still thinking Kill kill.

I honestly see it possibly increasing KoS unless there is other dynamics in the game that slow down KoS. We will have to wait and I see I suppose. But if we are gonna have things like shoes that degrade on their own we are gonna have people even killing each other for shoes. No matter how much ammo you take away from a KoS'er he will still KoS every chance he gets. I understand that a KoS'er cant KoS without ammo, but its not like there will be no ammo at all. There will still be ammo and if you give a KoS'er 5 bullets what do you think he will do with them? If you take DayZ as it is now and make ammo much more rare it would increase KoS. Not only that but it would leave solo players even more vunerable to teams and clans who will have control over the loot areas and have easier and more access to ammo. It would also leave fresh spawns even more vulernable to spawn killers. I dont know we will have to see...

Yeah a game like DayZ could certainly help you in a combat situation. At the very least it would be better than no combat situation at all. But if your not recognizing reality from fiction you need to tell you chain of command.

What does your Fantasy/Horror/Survival/Zombie/Post Apocolyptic video game have to do with your Army Career? Dont get me wrong I agree with alot of your post and you make me lol quite a bit but your kinda starting to freak me out KoS.

I am about to read your post but just wanted to tell me story real quick lol. My head phones are broke so been playing basically deaf for like 4-5 dayz. Was running up some backwoods hill and heard a vehicle and of course it was who knows how close when I heard it. Anyway I ran around rock to hide and im pretty sure they didnt see me. Im hiding behind this rock with no clue where this vehicle is and all of the sudden it pulls rigth around the rock where I am and stops. This is where I could punch myself in the face for my own stupid decisions. Im thinking "Ok this dude wants a fight" so I take aim at the driver side door. Well some dude pops out the back and I take aim at him. Right as I pull the trigger I see 2 more dudes pop out of the back and another dude run around that must have came from front passenger side. Lets just say I got raped like I never have been raped before. No KY. Why did I asume there was only one person in there? I could kick myself in the ass sometime. Anyway that was just a funny story that just happened to me. Ive seriously never been raped like that. Easily avoided with head phones tho. Im pretty sure I killed the first dude tho.

I dont think thats in doubt. The disscussion as of now is: 1) If you are unarmed and see and an armed player looking at you do you run or stay still? 2) Does it make a difference if you run or stay still? 3) And what is your overall best option?

This. If there is one thing Ive learned it doesnt matter where you are or how many people are on you cannot let your guard down.

I dont think running is going to have much to do with whether or not someone is going to shoot an unarmed player or not. This reminds me of one time I was in Cherno Firestation totally unarmed looking for loot. Just spawned in. As I was walking up the steps, checking corners and making sure I was staying out of sight lines I seen an AKM on the ground. Right as I noticed a dude who I had no idea was behind me bend over and pick up the gun. I stopped right in my steps knowing if dude wanted to kill me he could. He stood and looked at me for a second and shoot me in the head. I remember similar incidents in which I look back on and think "I should have at least tried to run". But I cant remember one time in which I seen someone while unarmed and they didnt shoot me unless they were totally unarmed as well. If your unarmed and you run and they shoot you then they likely were going to shoot you anyway. Ive had many people see me while they were unarmed and I didnt shoot. Of course I moved position still. Chance of getting away if you run or them deciding not to shoot= 30-40% (even better depending on where you are) Chance of the person shooting you if you just stand there unarmed= 90-95% Im just saying dude went with his best option in his mind and the best option available considering how most people play this game. You cant blame him for running.

I dont see how letting your gun do the talking will let people know your the one in a million person who wont shoot them if they stay perfectly still?

Maybe you wouldnt have killed the dude but he had no way of knowing that. 90% of of the other players would have regardless. Thats the facts we have to deal with in DayZ. In his mind his only chance was to run. He had no way of knowing he would live if he stayed still. I mean when has anyone seen someone with a gun pointed at them, stayed still and lived? Not often. Say you were going to shot him no matter what (like most people). His only chance would be to run. THis dude had no way of knowing you were the one in one-million person who wouldnt shoot him if he stayed still.

Feel free to your own opinion but I have to say in DayZ world this logic makes no sense. If you see someone with a gun pointed at you (and they havnt said anything) that is exactly when you DO want to make sudden moves. You either shoot or run but you definately dont just stand there lol. Whether or not they could of killed you already is irrelevent. Maybe they were just patiently waiting for the right shot? Whatever, like I said its irrelevent because now that they know you seen them they will kill you to protect themselves.

If I ever manage to have 10 seperate bases all stacked with guns, meds, vehicles, etc and spread out all over the map I will still feel like I need to do more. I kinda see what your saying OP but DayZ really isnt a story line type game. And I think people who get bored with this game need to open up there eyes to the long term survival aspect. DayZ is what you make it and as a matter of fact you can create your own end game. I believe people get geared up with a good gun, 3-4 clips, cooked meat, meds and maybe even a tent loaded with gear and they think they have reached "End Game". I dont think people realize how quickly that can all go away. If I ever get in a even remotely comfortable place in DayZ where I feel stable with enough bases and gear I will start popping off headshots on zombies relentlessly. If I get bored of that I will run trains CoD style. If I get bored of that I will build camp fires in the middle of Elektro and try to host block parties.

I walked upstairs to my upstairs loft where kids toys are scattered about. I looked on the floor and got so excited because I seen a tent laying in floor in its bag. Then I was instantly disappointed because I realized it was real life and it wasnt a DayZ tent.

Anyone else think "Vanilla" type Origins are awesome? No starting gear, no self blood bags. Huge cities with all kinds of buildings to go in. I recommend Origins for anyone wanting to try a new mod. Only complaint is Zombies arent as hard to get around as Vanilla DayZ currently is.

Man I tried to find a Namalsk server and literally couldnt find one with even a single player in there. btw self blood bag is about as far away from Vanilla as you can get lol. That's not a small difference from Vanilla. If you find a good Namalsk server (no starting loadout, no extra vehicles, no self blood bag and etc) please let me know.

I meant easier to sneak around and lose. If your not in a position to get away they will swarm you hard and melee weapons dont seem to work as good (could just be me). It could just be the huge cities that make them easier to sneak around and lose once alerted? If you alert a zombie on Vanilla it just seems harder to lose and Vanilla zombies may be more overall aggressive. Origins is the shit tho really. I think they need a sht load of more zombies in those huge cities tho.

BMRF = Custom Donation Starting Loadouts.

Holy shit dude

That sounds pretty awesome.

I see what your saying here and in no way would I tell you how to play the game. If its a capability in the game do it. However imo picking spawns need to go. Im not gonna lie and pretend I havnt been close to death then ran to the coast to die and pick my spawn right back in that location. You can literally be back to your body in 5-10 min. If you couldnt pick your spawn and have to kill yourself a few times your looking at way more than an extra 2-3 minutes. And the longer you take to get to your body the higher chance of someone looting regardless of how good you try to hide it (especially on the coast). And lets not even get in to revenge kills. Picking spawns degrades the value of life, takes away from the survival aspect of the game and makes the game a deathmatch. Add in self blood bags and you have a full fledged competitve shooter and you cant even call it a survival game.

Im still a mouse and Keyboard newb after months of playing with m&k. I started out trying to use a XBOX controller with XPadder. The reason i switched is because there just wasnt enough buttons and I could aim much easier with a mouse. I had to go as far as to sacrifice even Q and E among other important buttons. I still have deaths due to not being able to fluidly use m&k but I will never go back to trying to use a controller on DayZ. It wasnt until a few weaks into using the m&k and learned all the controls that I truly realized how much better it is for this game. Im not saying they couldnt make an awesome DayZ for console, im just saying as for this game on PC your just at too big of a disadvantage trying to use a controller. DayZ is and likely will always be the only game I have ever used a m+k for. I was in denial for a long time and tried to stick with a controller. Thats how much more comfortable i am with a controller in my hand when it comes to video games and I still find m+k the much better option. The sooner you make the switch the better lol.

Been playing on some servers with Self Blood Bags recently. One of the worste things to happen to the game imo. No need to be careful, cautious, avoid PvP situations and etc. Go straight out and hunt people, mess up and and get shot a few times then no worries just Self BBag. Sprint straight to the nearest barracks or place to get a good gun, F up and get swamped by zombies, no worries just Self BBag. Self Blood Bags take teh real survival aspect totally out of the game imo. The introduction of self blood bags is where the game crossed the line from a Survival, Horror with a balanced amount of PvP to an all out competitve shooter imo.

Not a bad idea but it wouldnt be much different from relying on someone to give you a blood bag. Unless the doctors were AI which at least wouldnt take as much away from the survival aspect as self blood bags do. And if your so low on health your blind it wouldnt be easy to make it across the map to a doctor. Definately good ideas, I will think more into how it would effect gameplay and come back to discuss. Anyone else want to chime in?

Honestly if the zombies dont walk through walls and closed doors it will be a huge improvement imo. Way more zombies in cities and in general.