beavis_5000

When you start with a good weapn there is nothing else to do besides kill people. Now if zombies were a much larger threat by all means start us off with an M16 or AKS.

Everything in DayZ takes patients. Especially moving around in town. You have to creep, even crawl around when neccessary. The last thing you want on a populated server is to run through town with a string of 10 zombies on your ass. You can get way with it in more isololated towns but not a good idea in towns like Cherno or Elektro. Ive never experienced this overburdened glitch but I have had things happen to me like drink my only drink then log out a few minutes later, then when I log back in my thirst is back to empty and my drink isnt there. These are the things that will surely be fixed in the SA. It does seem the Dean dude is adding some more annoances imo. Shoes that degrade really? And thats supposed to stop PvP some how? I guess we will have to wait and see but imo it seems like people are going to have even more reasons to kill each other.

No doubt I was just trying to redeem myself from the horrible fail of a thread I made.

Im not sure why they think things like this would slow down PvP....

What about a large amount of zombies like Dead Rising but with running zombies in a DayZ world?

I see what your saying here and this is the obstical I cant seem to get over when trying to explain my idea.

Have to lol at how hard of a fail my idea was lmao. Anyway I really like some of the ideas you guys brought up. Thanks for the input everyone. I probably should have tried top go into more detail in my original post. I guess I really dont mean so much full blown CoD Zombies style, just using it as an example really. Alot of you guys have some of the same ideas I do.

A CoD Zombies map where you spawn into Chernarus and the rules of DayZ apply.

Not neccessarily insta fortification, but if you run into one of those small wood cabin house at least the abilty to break down a kitchen table and board up windows with it. Go into first person and hold that shit down, 50+ zombies coming at you (hopefully more), no zombies glitching through walls. Sht zombies even have a 1 and 8 percent to chance to drop a max ammo. I would even be ok with a starting load out with a Winchester and a PDW with a clip. Head shots a one shot kill. Ability to buy s silencer to help you get away from zombies. Throw in a sprint button lol.

I only KoS if I see a bandit or someone runs up on me before I can chat with them. So I voted for number 1. If I see a bandit i am defiantely afraid he will kill me first and if I see a survivor running up on me I am afraid he will kill me if I dont get the jump on him and kill him.

No doubt there will be some PvP, likely alot of PvP. But lets put that aside and still make this a hardcore zombie game. I'd like to see some Dawn of the Dead type zombies. Even with PvP I think zombies are what can really make this a good game. If they make this a true zombies game it may go down as one of the best games ever. Even as DayZ is it goes down as one of the best games ever imo. They make this a true Zombie Apocolypse, Survival, Horror then the PvP will be just an added bonus. And thats the way the PvP should be, just an added bonus that adds to the realism of the game. Of course there will be PvP but imo i hope its not the base of the game as it is now. At least make the zombie aspect as much of a base as PvP.

I personally dont mind the KoS mentality on the mod. Its a big part of the mod. My only issue with the KoS mentality is I would love to have a true Survivor, Zombie Horror game in which zombies are in huge numbers, tougher and are the main worry by far. Sure people still might try to KoS but I want the zombie and survivng aspects to be hard enough to be the biggest worry. To where people who even have a KoS mentality and already run in teams want to take in as many team mates as possible to help deal with zombies instead of thinking well we have a team of 4 thats enough. Instead of seeing a survivor and wanting to kill they think "Well we could really use him for when we get swamped by a huge hoarde again". If the SA is more like the mod (which I expect) it will still be a good game and I will play it but I wont lie and say i wont be disappointed. I mean we already have the Day Z mod to have the PvP why do we need two just like it? So I like the KoS aspect of the mod and I very much enjoy the Hero vs Bandit rivalry. I just think if they truly make the SA a Zombie game it could be the greatest game of all time. SO my question to all the hardcore KoS'ers out there- If you could chose between a hardcore Zombie game in the SA like Ive described or the SA being essentially another Day Z mod what would you choose?

Great post and thanks for the input. I too love DayZ im just expressing my dream for a hardcore zombie survival game. You make a great point about mods off of the SA. And yeah i have had horrible luck with other players but that is one of the fun things about DayZ, no problems there..

Im sure it will. Im just wondering if there are any other hardcore zombie fans who dream of a real Zombie apocolypse Survival game.

I honestly dont think its possible. Its either going to be a competitve shooter or zombie game.

I agree and I think now that loot has been nerfed it will balance the PvP back out. With loot the way it was and every single player, noob or otherwise, was running around with CCO's and snipers killing everything that moved (or trying to kill everything lol).

Whose Dean? And the KoS debate has raged ever since ive been on here.

I was hoping one of the previlant KoS'ers would give some input. I should have included this question in the OP and I will edit in a min. But my question to you hardcore KoS'ers is- If you could chose between a hardcore Zombie game in the SA like Ive described or the SA being essentially another Day Z mod what would you choose?

DayZ as is is really not a zombie game. Not really even a survivor game. Yeah I realize no one cars about my opinion or my dream zombie game lol. I just felt others may feel similar to me and I was trying to give insight as of why I personally speak negative of the KoS mentality at times. Its nots because I dont enjoy that aspect of the game I am just crossing my fingers (probably in false hope) that they will mae a true Zombies game out of this because it would be awesome. And if it dont happen with this game it might never happen. btw Dead Rising was good because of the massive amounts of zombies and everything involved in the game revovled around the zombies and the zombie out break. A little to much drama outside of the actual outbreak tho even in Dead Rising for my taste. Take Dead Rising, make it a survivor game like Day Z but with sprinting zombies and in a world the size of DayZ then we will be getting somewhere.

Most people play PvP servers because there are just no other servers out there. For example if someone plays Epoch (which is the most popular mod as of right now but not because of KoS) they are going into a server with massive amounts of loot which transfers to massive PvP. So every Epoch server is PvP for that one reason. And before the newest 1.8.0.2 patch basically every server was extreme PvP for mentioned reasons. In the newest 1.8.0.2 patch ive already seen PvP slow down a tad because of less loot. And there is still more loot than there used to be. Bolota of course is still a war zone but thats more because of spawn selection. Its still easier to meet other friendlies there tho. Of course the KoS mentality is still previlant but nonetheless you cant KoS with no weapon leadng to more interaction between friendlies who dont feel like they have to KoS or be KoS'd. So its a tad better for those not trying to KoS everyone they see. So my main point is all the biggest servers are PvP (which can be debated) not because people enjoy the KoS aspect so much but more because there is no other option.

And the people who take part in the poll are random players from the hardcore player base (people on this forum). Its the best place to get this info, Bandits and all.

It may not be possible to stop KoS altogether but things can be done to slow it down. As of now there is almost no other point to the game other than kill and there is no consequence to KoS.Will zombies be hard enough to deal with so the game will have another challenge besides kill people? Will there be a consequence to KoS? I dont know but they can definately make the game unfriendly to a KoS mentality. And making a poll on this forum is the best possible place to get info about the game. Not only that, most players on here are hardcore players and likely some of the better players out there, so they are getting the best possible info from this site.

What type of shenanigans? I was on there last night.

I dont think it has anything to do with FPS but I could be wrong. Even when it says im getting 60 FPS I get this lag every 2-3 seconds. Its like a split second lag that occurs every 2-3 seconds. My FPS seems to be all over the place. It jumps between an average of 20-60 FPS in seconds. Of course the closer I am to cities or towns the worse it gets jumping from 15-40 FPS. Any ideas? Are the two issues related maybe? Dont remember my exact graphics card but its a pretty good Gigabyte Raedon AMD one. 7850 GPU i think but not sure. I got an i5 proccessor. I will get back to you with more exact specs.

Disabled some start up programs and the game runs like new.