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I also submit a crafting idea. players, if lucky enough to come across an outback gunsmithing depot, could acquire some casings, gun powder, bullets, primers and possibly a hand-loading kit similar to this one below and maybe a hand-loader manual. In this way, they could begin fashioning their own ammo in small quantities. Naturally, hand-loaded ammo might not be as accurate, and may be prone to jamming the weapon, not firing at all, or damaging the weapon, so it would take some skill to improve your success. You'd also need to mount the kit securely on a sturdy bench, so it would require that you succeeded in setting up a temporary base of operations. The hand loader would also need to find the right manual as well as equipment for the cartridge that he/she wishes to craft. As for shells, they could possibly reuse the spent casings that were undamaged after firing. Comments? Beans?

Agreed. These could also be used as a signal that there might be a dead body somewhere for you to loot if you happen to spot one circling above... unless it is circling directly above you!

By all means. However, Hawks and Eagles by their very nature are isolationists. They do not hunt well in packs. At most, you would see two of these; male and female partners. They would also not pose as great a threat as a flock of over-eager crows, and could easily be taken out with a well placed shot. Once one of them is taken out, the other will usually give up. Crows, on the otherhand are some persistent nutters. They will harass you until you submit to their wishes, or shoot them.

Rumor is there will be bears... and large cats. I am advocating crows, since no one else made the suggestion. Crows would be a good thing for the game.

Fair enough. I just threw that number out there. 10-15 aggressive crows is still alot to handle. Especially if you are not properly equipped. And by equipped, I mean carrying a shotgun, body armor and possibly not by yourself with hopefully someplace to use as cover. Also, 10-15 crows flying into you at 30mph from the air in unison can easily knock you on your feet! After that, they'd simply pick you into submission with their beaks and talons while you were recovering. Modelling 10-15 crows might also be easier on the CPU as well.

Agreed. Hence the reason why shotguns would be a good thing to have over an M4 or Ak-47 in many cases, when faced against a flock of 30-40 or so persistent crows all looking to get a piece of you (literally). Especially if you were a survivalist. Not only that, but the instant you fire it, you'd then be dealing with a zombie herd as well as these flying beasts. ...and I wouldn't hold out much hope for the poor traveler with only an axe, a pair of jeans and a sweat-shirt! I'd be shit scared if I were in this poor sap's position if while I was walking through a city I heard that cawing sound! Fuck zombies... I'd be heads up looking out for crows! This feature adds another dimension of real, organic FEAR to the game!

The birds themselves are not infected. However, with a food shortage across Cherneruse, they would be more opportunistic and hence more aggressive, while learning to forage in large groups. It is not outside the realm of possibility that these birds would resort to eating the flesh of the dead (and the weaker of the undead). Organizing themselves in large groups would be a natural evolutionary tactic these birds would quickly adapt to if they wanted to take down larger prey. It is also not outside the realm of possibility that flocks of these birds may begin to attack those of us who they deem weak and defenseless; and because they may have been feeding on dead flesh and possibly feces, they would be the perfect delivery system for pestilence. Yes, it would be a random chance that you'd encounter an aggressive flock, and the greatest danger would be large unpopulated areas where there is little food, and where wooded regions meet large patches of clearing. Smaller groups of these birds may also exist within the city limits. As you walked through the city, you may see several of them perched in the roof tops, cawing at each other and assessing their possible victims for signs of weakness. Your best bet in these situations would be to move cautiously so as not to invite their attention. Bear in mind that studies show that crows are as intelligent as a seven year old, with the ability to use their environment to fashion basic tools to make their life easier. They are infact, the only non-primate group capable of doing this! In large groups, they could be a force to reckon with. Crows have been observed killing doves, pigeons, Finches, sparrows, Blue Jays, Oreos, hawks, and anything that flies or moves. They are ruthless yet intelligent. See this interesting short video at the bottom of the page here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590046/Crows-intelligent-CHILDREN-Study-reveals-birds-intelligence-seven-year-old.html

there's always one...

Turns out there is another reason why a shotgun could be a weapon of choice. In addition to the fun sport of duck hunting, here is something else to consider... If this is true, then I suggest that a shotgun with buckshot should be the weapon of choice for those less skilled at snipping. A shotgun might not put the undead down for good, but it could take them off their feet for long enough to make good your escape. I propose that weapon characteristics be made to fit with this model. For persons good at sniping, a head shot with some FMJ round for skull penetration is the way to go, but for those lacking in skill, it would be nice if we could take a leg off of a zombie with a 12 gauge, of fire some lead shot into the herd to slow them down. On the other hand, an FMJ to the chest or stomach would penetrate, enter and exit, but would not have much take down force to stop them permanently if not square in the rib cage, heart or skull. This would cause players to think more carefully about the weapon they choose to use... Should they discard that old Remington 1900 side-by-side 12 gauge with a charming Damascus barrel they found in a barn or above the fireplace, that offers little penetration but lots of spread and take-down force, or should they abandon that military grade M4 with armor penetrating rounds and a snipping scope in favor of a sawed off shotgun with ample slug and buckshot, lots of kick and splash damage? Or maybe, they could have the best of both worlds... an M4 for armor/skull piercing, and a .38 Saturday night special with hollow point rounds and moderate punch, but pathetic range. Decisions, decisions... Comments, Beans?

If this is true, then I suggest that a shotgun with buckshot should be the weapon of choice for those less skilled at snipping. A shotgun might not put the undead down for good, but it could take them off their feet for long enough to make good your escape. I propose that weapon characteristics be made to fit with this model. For persons good at sniping, a head shot with some FMJ round for skull penetration is the way to go, but for those lacking in skill, it would be nice if we could take a leg off of a zombie with a 12 gauge, of fire some lead shot into the herd to slow them down. On the other hand, an FMJ to the chest or stomach would penetrate, enter and exit, but would not have much take down force to stop them permanently if not square in the rib cage, heart or skull. This would cause players to think more carefully about the weapon they choose to use... Should they discard that old Remington 1900 side-by-side 12 gauge with a charming Damascus barrel they found in a barn or above the fireplace, that offers little penetration but lots of spread and take-down force, or should they abandon that military grade M4 with armor penetrating rounds and a snipping scope in favor of a sawed off shotgun with ample slug and buckshot, lots of kick and splash damage? Or maybe, they could have the best of both worlds... an M4 for armor/skull piercing, and a .38 Saturday night special with hollow point rounds and moderate punch, but pathetic range. Decisions, decisions... Comments, Beans?

With everything in the world going pear shaped, it likely that these birds would develop a more aggressive wolf-pack mentality. If they also preyed on corpses and do not get sick and die, then those that survive could possibly carry infected flesh on their beaks and talons. If these then come in contact with humans, they could pass disease this way, that would need to be treated with medication. Just hearing that chilling cawwing sound they make in the distance would immediately send chills down anyone's spine! Imagine hearing this when walking down a desolate abandoned city block at dawn...

Now here's a beautiful piece of craftsmanship for you civilians out there! The UTS 15 Shotgun hell yea!! Designed in Turkey, this could be an auxiliary weapon of choice for all you hunter-gathers-explorers out there. Perfect for Cherneruse, it could be placed in the game as one of the more rarer finds. Would be ideal for the police force, as this was its intended target user. Players could theoretically find these in abandoned police stations, abandoned vehicles, etc. It actually chambers multiple shot. e.g. birdshot, buckshot and slug. You could switch between different modes during firing! See this bad girl in action! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_o3YsUVAyQ

oops. How do I move this sad and lonely, lost post? sorry. Good post gone to waste :(

I found a nice home for this misplaced post. You can find it here: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/197761-crows-that-attack-players/

Yup. I feel your pain, man. And don't worry about what others might say. your boredome has nothing to do with the fact that the game is in alpha stage. Believe me, unless serious game changes are made before official release, the final game will be just as boring. This is for the simple reason that the game's success is hedge 100% COMPLETELY on player involvement and input. What this means is that if players choose not to participate in a concerted effort to provide interesting adventures and gameplay, then the game will not be enjoyable in the long run. What should be considered is a plan to decouple player enjoyment from MMO player involvement. Provide other quest like adventures for individuals to accomplish aside from having to rely on other people to play with them. Any game whose enjoyment is based 100% on player participation will only be fun in the very short term, or as long as it takes for these other players to decide not to not participate in the game anymore. It would be a game doomed to failure. Pity @rocket doesn't see it his way.

Seems to me like this is the fellow who was responsible for that massive syphilis, gonorrhea and Clap outbreak that mysteriously surfaced in he 60's...

so is there a way that this can be fixed without people exploiting it to cheat? What this means is that without a scope, I can also see a person lying own in grass at a distance.

I don't get it... how is this a good thing? You should NOT be able to see a player hiding in the bushes from 1000m. Isn't this cheating. Isn't this what we all don't want? I am genuinely confused :(

As you know, we are a few days shy of this glorious holiday celebration! On this occasion, let us not give in to all the commercialization on television, but rather, remember its true purpose; It is a celebration of love, in remembrance of that three-day period when female corpses rose from the dead to give gifts and treats to good little boys and girls, while haunting, tormenting, tricking and hiding their eggs from sinful adults. In celebration of this, we plan to hold a mass ceremonial crucifixion of female rabbits, where we will shoot them in the heart with arrows, and nail them to wooden crosses, while having sex with 25 virgins under a mistletoe tree. This is in the hope of saving mankind from all their sins by allowing a new King to be born. Hope to see you there!! PM me if you are interested.

u in?

I don't know why this is a surprise. The devil finds work for idle hands to do. So... let's see hat we have to keep the average gamer busy... zombies who present no challenge whatsoever and the vastness of Cherneruse. So there you are, rambling on for miles and miles without guidance, rhyme or reason, bored out of your mind because you are packing all sorts of heat, but nothing to shoot at or give you challenge. Then finally, you spot in the distance the one thing that has a chance of offering you any kind of challenge or excitement...another player With a gun!!! What luck! What with you just dying to try out this new weapon you just found and all... Sadly, this other person is thinking the exact same thing! So what do you think is going to happen next if you were on the business end of this other players scope? You guessed it. KOS. duh. Statistically, this is the most likely outcome of an average encounter with another player for the simple fact that the average player in a first person shooter is there simply because he likes to shoot guns! And if you don't put something infront of him that gives him a challenge to shoot, well guess what!! He will shoot at your ass instead. The primary reason why there is KOS is not because too many players are a-holes. It is because too many players are average online gamers who like first person shooters. In a first person shooter where they get to shoot at things! How is this an abnormality? The question posted by the OP though well intentioned, does not hit the nail on the head in this case. The real question to be asked is: "Why the f*ck doesn't the dev team provide sufficient challenge to keep the average player occupied enough that the have little time to shoot at other players to cure their boredom". If you give the player something decent to shoot at, or something more exciting (other than shooting) to do like maybe a mystery quest or some such, then they wouldn'tshoot at you as often (notice I did not say at all). You argue NO to events or mission quests and such. "Let the DayZ players' define the missions through their actions." you say. Well fine then. Given that we are dealing with the average online gamer here, their mission will most likely be to put a cap in your ass when they spot you, 'cause that just how they roll. This is not going to suddenly change. What's more, you are delusional if you think that it will just because the game is finally released to the public. It will only get worse; more players, more shootum, killum.

I would have shot the little bastard just cause he was twelve and should be in bed sleeping or doing his homework! Doesn't he have school? What were you thinking???

You forgot the most obvious thing; Th ability to craft your own ammunition. In a survival game, the ability to hand load your own ammo would be invaluable. Players might come across a crate of empty shells, gunpowder, bullets, primers, reloading maual and handloading kits similar to the one in the link. They could then manufacture small quantities of rounds. Penalties may be suffered if they are new to the skill that might include gun jams, etc. duh!

Because the younger generation are right bastards, and are technically not humans at all. All that coca cola, red bull and Mc Donalds crispy fried chicken has permanently metamorphed their genetic structure into the ungodly mess that the rest of god's holy creation are trying to cope with the best we can. This is a proven scientific fact. White Jesus (or insert your favorite deity here), please save us all...

So will there be easter egg type missions or what?