AllDayZSimon

Just make it simple in the script - Make a "Disconnect From Day Z Server" option in the menu - That would be your characters checkpoint/save - If you just crash/close program, it doesn't save any of your data from the last time you clicked that option in the menu.

Lots of people get shot in the face at point blank range and survive nowadays.. Edit : Fuck, took Oswald two shots to take out Kennedy - And he had a rifle.

So why doesn't anyone get infected when attacked by The Infected? Seems like a realism must - And again if it's realism - Why doesn't everyone spawn as a civilian instead? But if they're supposed to be whats left of the military, I doubt they'd be at eachothers throats.

There's nothing "PVP" about sniping someone who probably won't ever know your location. And why does everyone say this like they're so sure about it? Wait for the real zombie apocalypse, then start talking about "How things are in the apocalypse".

The same goes for any "hacked in" guns/equipment. And people need to stop going "No because it wouldn't be realistic", especially when they say no to the idea of getting infected when getting attacked by zombies (Possibly the most realistic addition that could be made).

I love seeing posts like this, followed up by signatures like yours.. "I have to disconnect to get away from these zombies (That everyone says aren't a threat), but I feel just fine killing 10 real players".

That's your buddy - And that's also Call of Duty (lol). Most people hack because it's fun - Think of it like Grand Theft Auto, if it didn't have right-down-left-up-right-down(3x), left(3x), etc. to spawn fun things like tanks - You'd have to resort to hacking them in. I'd assume the reason people hack DayZ is to spawn items/vehicles that are not in the mod - And I'd assume the other reason would be because they're sick of shit like happening - And only getting responses from people like you going "Learn to play noob".Edit: And hell, it may even come down to just griefing the community- But they seriously aren't griefing any more than the people playing "Legit". (In other words, sitting on the edge of a town just killing everyone "Because pvp is the shit!" PVP is usually used on even terms, but in this game pvp means killing you from 300 yards where you can't even see my guys silhouette.

Grammar on the internet means jack shit. The true person lacking intelligence, is the person who can't understand what someone is trying to say because of spelling errors. What? Someone said "2" instead of to/too/two? And you really didn't understand what they were trying to say?

Not a finished product? Sorry but "It's not finished" is hardly an excuse. Incase you hadn't noticed, almost no games are "Finished" - Just the fact that they recieve patches and game updates attest to that.

I figured I'd throw in my own little thought since everyone loves to throw the "Rules" around all the time on what you can and can't do. (While also digging this mod deeper and deeper into its grave) Taken from http://dayzmod.com/f...ns-are-abuseing Now I will tell you why, in very many ways - This arguement is the stupidest thing you can throw out there. As you can see, there are many rules that are being "Laid down" - DCing not being one of them. Because of this, everyone seems to believe it's within their right to do so. Now let me go over the list of things that aren't on this list along with ghosting/battle disconnecting - I mean, it's not on the list so it must be fine right? Spawning Gear, Vehicles, Weaponry. Using ESP/Aimbots. Teleporting with .50 cals. Nuking Elektro/Cherno. Spawning Goats with .50 cals. Hacking a server and giving yourself server administrator powers. + Anything else that isn't on the list. Now that that little bit is done, let's go over the rules that are inplace and pick apart their meaning like everyone else does to validate their ability to battle-disconnect without punishment. BEWARE - The same restrictions apply to Non-Dev run servers! - IT MAY NEVER BE PASSWORDED - Forgot to add the "Except when updating/restarting for ping related issues" - NO OTHER KEYS OR MODS. NONE. PERIOD. - NO KICKING TO MAKE ROOM FOR 'FRIENDS' OR CLANMATES - Fair and is rarely being abused (And before you say everyone does it, realize that there are thousands of servers. - NO LOCKING THE SERVER - Again, forgot to add the "Except when Updating/restarting to resolve ping issues." - NO EDITING DAYZ/MISSION FILES - IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO UPDATE YOUR SERVER TO THE LATEST VERSION OF DAYZ -BATTLEYE MUST BE ENABLED - Love how this was added moment after the first report yet all the abusing/cheating players get one post three days down the road. - Minimum slot count of 40 (30 for countries where bandwidth is expensive i.e. developing countries) - Their are only two reasons why you, as a server owner, should ban a player on your server. Those two reasons are: Malicious talk, and racism. You may not ban a user for stealing your loot, killing you, spying on you, etc. - So Malicious ACTS don't count? So aslong as I don't type something racist/harrass anyone with text, I'm free to do it however I want - Just along as I don't type? - You may only kick for disruptive behavior (such as continued VOIP over side channel). But you may not kick due to race or language or because the person does something you do not like. - Battle Disconnecting is disruptive behavior, but people also go "Not on the rules so it doesn't count" And if not, IE; Now then, what I would like to see out of this thread? Not what I'm going to recieve I guarentee - But what I would like is a definitive response from anyone with the development team on what is freegame on cheating? What can we do to cheat but not be banned like is going on now? How much can we get away with because "It's not in the rules"? Because it seems like alot of people seem to have mixed emotions on the matter, why not clear it up here and now? Now that your mod is getting views, is the time to get professional and not leave these loop-holes in your rules - Especially if you're blacklisting people who pay to NOT have people go through your loop-holes.

The question isn't whether I'm upset or not - It's how flawed these "Rules" are and how they're being worked around -NOW-. The quote I took is from someone ranting on about how he's not in the wrong because there is no rule that explicitly mentions Battle Disconnecting. There are also no rules explicitly mentioning hacking servers/harrassing the HIVE - Don't hide behind "There is no rule about it", because the same can be said about anything I've mentioned in this thread.

I think any reports that have shit like; Should be thrown out immediately. Yes admins, learn to play a game that is described by these very same people as a "Play how you want" game..

Hey "bro", You're the exact reason why people are doing this - Because you're the type of person who goes "HO HO HO, THERE ARE NO RULES I CAN DO WHATEVER!" and abuse the shit out of these exploits - Then when action is taken you come on here "But..But, THE RULES!" :o That's the best example of this piss-poor community I've read yet. Thank you for making these bannings valid to everyone who's read your "NUH UH" post. The Devs told the players to take the matters into their own hands to prevent these things ingame - Which admins have done. But instead of actually handling the issues, they get idiots like you who spit on them for removing CHEATERS, yelling to blacklist because they said they can't ban your form of cheating - Guess what isn't on the rules? Anything regarding hackers - So does that mean it's free game? Because it was left out of the rules like Alt-f4? I guess so, so that must be a green light to nuke cherno for anyone aswell.

There are already admin abuse threads, it would change nothing on that scale except maybe someone would actually look into the abusing admins - Which it seems like they're already doing instead of looking into the exploiters themselves. But your last bit about them being dictators and not allowing anything they don't like - You just described the DayZ staff and rules. "Follow our rules or get blacklisted" - Sounds like black-MAIL to me. Now I'm not saying that all Dayz rules are garbage - But saying that admins go "Oh we don't like how you do things, BAN" - "Oh we don't like how you do things, Blacklist."

It shouldn't be forced into being disabled. It should be upto the server host on what vehicles are available - Afterall, you can't take that heli cross server with you, so there isn't any abuse to be had on that level.

Sorry, Hosting companies don't just decide to do something like this without some type of warning/request. That's like your ISP emailing you "We're taking away your intenet to make sure you don't do anything bad". They don't do it, now if the govenment said something like "This individual is looking up illegal material" something would be done - But again, not without some communication with someone incharge beforehand. You seem to think that the server hosting companies come on here and go "Oh they have rules on a forum, we better change our business style to play out in accordance..Just incase".

Can also expect the majority of Arma 3 pre-orders to be canceled if it happens.

And instead of talking to the hosts themselves about the issues, they go behind their back to their hosting companies and demand they don't let them do things. For a game that's about "not restricting your play type", there are alot of shady hinderances occuring.

Again, the rules they set. Not the ones they plan to set. If they plan to modify their rules, they should do it when the server lease is up - Giving players time to back out and say "No, I don't agree to these new terms" and not have to change their server mid-month just because of one sentence on the forums - Locking them into an already paid for server.

The DayZ team isn't the one providing you the game. The people paying their own money to provide the mod a server are. But people don't understand that, instead they spit on the admins with "Rocket said no rules!". Edit: Or better yet, "Rocket/Dayz Staff said ____". Giving them a feeling of lawlessness - And if that's the point, then why even enforce hackers if there isn't going to be anything but "THIS ADMIN ABUSES AND BANNED ME, BLACK LIST HIM" threads? Shit if that was the case, I'd invite hackers into my server because "Rocket and them say I can't do anything about it". Feel free to burn elektro/nuke all the players on the server - All I can do is write a ticket because I'm not getting blacklisted, etc.

Evidence of nukes, spawning, hacking, ESP, Disconnectors, no-tree/building modified files - The list goes on. But instead, their time seems to be more pushed towards "Don't let admins handle the problem and use the unban forum as it was ment to be used!" and moreso "We're working on it so don't do anything.." with no real progress to be shown. The fact that shit like this still goes on ingame is proof of that. And if the problem is "Oh admins abuse" Let those abusive admins be as exposed as the people currently cheating the system because there aren't rules regarding the cheat for the public like there are rules for admins in regards to handling the situation. Let me just say thing last bit, Edited in by the way - There are more rules that Admins have to follow, than the freebies that join their servers.

You appearantly don't look at youtube evidence of this happening either.

Yes, the rules they set - Not the ones they are going to come up with next friday. Posted May-01. So, it takes two months + to fix this issue - But inbetween you get a bunch of useless updates to battleye/server rules? You'd think a gamebreaking ability would take priority over having battle-eye enabled when it appearantly doesn't catch half the nuking/spawning that happens.

An agreement/terms don't really mean anything if they just quick-edit them in. (Again, IE: -Battle-eye must be enabled). Now I'm not saying that having battleye off is a good idea - But the whole "There are rules you agreed to" arguement flies out of the window when rules are made up after the fact. Now if a Dev were to just say one line of text; "If you are caught exploiting (Whether it be spawning gear, ESP or Disconnecting to cheat death, you will be banned. You may file your ban appeal in the ban appeal forum" I'd bet it lowers it's consistancy. But instead they've said "No, don't do anything about them because we'll fix it eventually". As far as I recall, since I joined these forums I've heard of disconnecting issues that -Still- haven't been resolved. What has happened? Hundreds of "ROCKET SAID" posts, however many patches including a beta patch for BE. Modifying of rules so that the people actually paying money have no seperate rights than a freebie. (Not saying they get all these super rights, but why should someone pay to run a server for you - When you're the only one who gets to admin it? And no I don't mean "Oh herp derp he killed me BAN!" I mean more on the; "Oh I killed that guy" *Makes way to corpse* "..Where the hell is he-" *Bang* Shot from a location they should have never made it to. What's the difference between Alt-F4 to avoid dying, and Alt-F4 to be a dick? That dick rejoins the same server he just quit instead of moving onto one of the other of thousands out there, just so he can kill his would-be killer.

What do you think is worse, admins banning people for exploiting? Or the people Exploiting? Because it would seem that the majority are on the exploiters side saying that the admins are breaking rules, but these people aren't because there is no "NO ALT-F4" rule like there is the only two kick reason rule.