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It's server hopping thats the real annoyance. You enter a building where noone is. You cleared it and all the doors are closed. Then, behind you, someone shoots and kills you. Someone just spawned in out of nowhere. It drives me crazy. When someone comes into a server they should have to wait 30 seconds to move. Is that what rocket means by queued loading? Waiting when entering a server?

Deffinately! Did they push a patch secretly?

I have one of those! haha.

I want to see them using some of that 5 mil to start hiring new talent and get this supposed 6 man team up to 50 or more. Hopefully then this game will be great. That has always been BIS problem. Their team size. They get too ambitious and don't have the amount of people they need. Happened with ARMA 3. DayZ can be a big money maker that could put this indie developer on the mainstream map.

I know its early still but I'd like to suggest and discuss the kind of stat system for the game. I feel that even just one statistic that we could see would add immense replay value to the game. Time alive with current character by Hours and Minutes played only! Not time outside the server. That would be cheating. Then, we could have longest time lived ever with a character. That way when you play you are always trying to beat your last best time. I feel like that alone would add a lot to the game. At least for me. Zombie kills, humans kills are all great too but being that this is a survival game I feel that that alone could hold its weight. That being said Id love to see an incredibly in depth statistics tracker. An in game statistics monitor/page that would allow you to see your current stats. Here are just some ideas. Id love to hear from one of the devs on this with what their future plans are or what the limitations or capabilities of this hive are in regards to stats. Time Alive (Current Character) Longest Time Survived Zombies Killed Humans Killed Animals Killed Animals Gutted Humanity Shots fired Accuracy Percentage Kilometers walked Bottles Drank Beans Eaten Fires Made Any thoughts??

I really wish we could get a devs word on this? This is the feature I want the most that I have heard the least about.

Any reports on this from the guys that have tried it?? Any changes to report?

This idea has probably been mentioned at some point in the last 2 years of this concepts existance but I wanted to bring it to the forefront again in case some devs never saw it or forgot about it. ::TLDR Below:: Assuming dogs are still in the development plan. Dogs are very attune to human emotions and intentions. They can sense adrenaline,fear aggression, all that. So my suggestions are a couple things to help alleviate kos, no consequence banditry, and promote good behavior. 1. Most people know that serial killers and people who would kill their fellow humans, especially in a drastic situations like a zombie outbreak where they should be grouping together to fight the hoard are usually not very kind to animals. In fact many serial killers start of killing, torturing and abusing animals. What if one of the consequences of banditry is that you CANNOT HAVE A LOYAL DOG accompany you. This is where it gets a bit gamey but still has some roots in realism. Don't think about you as the gamer, with no consequences or reason not to kill another human. Think about it in a realistic sense. You are a bad person who is indiscriminately in most cases killing human beings. Lets say that the dogs can sense that hatred, fear, whatever it is that drives you to kill in a murderous manner. Perhaps it goes on some sort of scale, where the more humanity you have the more loyal your dog follower is. Low humanity causes dogs to sometimes just up and leave. They sense the fear, hatred and lack of calmness, know you are not a pack leader or alpha and leave. Maybe something in the world can be found or built or gain that would allow bandits with low humanity to have dogs.. Maybe pit bulls or zombie infected dogs that they contain somehow. 2. For those of us with high humanity and loyal dog followers. What if our dogs help to alert us of bandit presence in some realistic way. Some script that can make the dog growl if certain realistic conditions are met. The bandit is close, the bandit has you in his/her cross hairs, the bandit is starved, low on blood, moving and being loud?? I have camped many times in the wilds with my dog and I wont hear a thing and he will be looking out into the woods growling. Kind of scary actually knowing he can sense something out there that I cant. I am not sure of the exact scripting commands available to the team but something like this could warrant some thought. Any other realistic and interesting benefits regarding dogs you guys can think of. ::TLDR:: Your a bandit, cant have dogs or dogs are not loyal and leave often. Your a good person, you can have dogs, they are loyal and can alert you of any violent aggressive intentions of bandits nearby.

Yes, please consider adding more sounds to the game devs. This is a game that greatly needs sounds from people walking on glass or opening doors etc.

The real question with this server hopping is....How the hell do they expect to implement the base building and all that they talked up if you can server hop into someones base? Whats the point of barbed wirre etc if I can just log out, move forward an inch and log back to other server, in base. Annoying.

ditto

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Does anyone know if there is any publications or official words from rocket regarding this avenue?

Am I the only one that thinks the new animations are kind of lazy and weak? The standing animation is the absolute same from the mod, the walking slow is ok I guess. The running? Its like I am being chased by a Gorilla, not a zombie. The jumping attack? Thats ridiculous. I've played ARMA game long enough to know there are some SERIOUS limitations, especially in the anim department, but tell me how the ARMA 3 Mod Breaking Point has the best zombie animations for Dayz type variant to date? They look like rabid infected people. Jerking about in convulsive ways. They walk and and run like the infected from 28 days later. I really hope the animations aren't final.

Does no one read?!!?!!?!!! All of your reasons are bullshit! There is NO REASON for us to care about YOUR shitty internet, pink spikes, abusive admin issues, freak thunderstorms, barking dogs, family issues and any other outlandish and ridiculous excuses you people who are nothing but exploiters use for the sympathy vote. HIDE! Go PRONE! USE BUSHES! FIND SHADE! USE SOME FRIGGIN STEALTH SKILLS! GO READ THE US ARMY SURVIVAL/EVASION MANUAL! SO the hell what if you have to wait 20 seconds and you are soo unlucky that in the HUGE map that is chern you get killed. Start the hell over. Your scenarios are soo outlandish and uncommon. From now on every time I see a stupid ass post I will post my argument from a few pages back that has a legitimate counter for all your bitching. I wont even waste my time typing again.

There.....is.....no.....hope for these people......

Of course you do, because you dont want to have to walk to the nearest city like everyone else. Give it a rest all of you. You are so obvious with you pathetic examples and reasons for these game breaking mechanics to remain. Respawn till you find a "good spawn"? If that isnt explotation than I dont know what is. This game is not catered to you. It is a time consuming, frustrating, sometimes annoying experience. This is what I want, but thats not what makes it right. What makes it right is that THIS IS WHAT ROCKET WANTS. Its HIS game. NOT YOURS. Im just glad what he wants is also what I want. If it wasent, Id find another game instead of trying to derail a project thats goals (or lack thereof) where layed out from the get go. You guys need to think logically about entitlment. IN addition, a story for you all about the negatives of DC. And before you give me all your BS reasons why the "innocent people" will be effected, go back to page 37-40 and read my logical reasons why you ARE a DCer, http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/42806-pending-update-build-1724/page__st__720#entry413998 and please never post again. WHY DC/SERVER HOPPING IS THE CAUSE OF EXESSIVE KoS ____________________________________________________________ -You're sitting their in a house in Novy Sabor contimplating your next location. You move out and turn a corner and your heart stops. Here comes another survivor. Hes equipped with nicer gear than you have. A machine gun, you only a pistol but a large cayote. He only has a chech. He hasent seen you but you think its only a matter of time. You hold out on taking a shot. Zombies ARE EVERYWHERE. You've never seen so many spawn in one place. Its 1.7.2 and you know the zombies vision and hearing are much more realistic than before. You let your guard down for just a second and you are being shot at. The survivor walking down the street was not a survivor, he was a bandit. You die in a pool of your own blood and regrets at not taking HIM OUT first. Hes made a KoS out of you now. But what about the bandit?? Surely he would have considered the seriousness of opening fire in that shitstorm of zombies. No. Didnt even cross his mind because he knew all he had to do was kill you. DC. And spawn back in right where your dead body lies. He is chilling. Zombies spawn back not aggroed a few seconds later. MO GEAR, NO PROBLEMS. I rest my case......

And mite I add, finding a good server for yourself shouldn't really require you to log in and log out. This only adds to my suspicion everyone bitching about this is an avid DCer. First you have the latency idicator which is usually fairly accurate. I have gone into servers that show green 70 and or less. Halfway through play through I get yellow, red, and broken red chains with no drop in FPS or DC. It comes and goes. Its normal. As for day night, thats not such a game breaking problem that we should consider letting people DC and server hop just because you got unlucky and found yourself in the dark. PLAY the game! Sometimes its dark. You start with a flashlight now. Its effective, albeit dangerous to use. But again that is the game. Anyway, this could be avoided by server owners either being true to the local time zone they are located in or by clearly marking on their server. And for the gamer its simple. FIND A SERVER THAT HAS AN ACTIVE ADMIN! Find one that is always updating their timezone, that is stable. There is no FREAKING WAY i am the only person that has 4 good servers available at any given time. There is just no freaking way. I live in the states. In most cases we have some of the shittiest internet in the world. Noone in Asia better complain, thats for sure, with their fiber to home and fiber NICs. So no, I don't think this, like all the other outlandish reasons all you avid DCers come up with is a valid reason. Like I said if you internet is such shit that you genuinely cannot find a good server, you need to sell your game, buy more bandwidth, or move if playing dayz is that important to you. Please SOMEONE argue this to me. Someone present me with a coherent and intelligent counter responce to this and I will drop it and advocate against anti DC mechanics.

We mite yet find common ground. I like the within 3 minutes thing for all those bitching about they cant find a good server, which personally I find beyond popostrous. I have found several servers that are good for me and that are always up. I have the choice between the 4 good servers. Usually stick to one for continuity and tent purposes. But either way thats fair. It however still leaves plenty of time for loot server hopping. Jump around from one super market to the next. 3 minutes is plenty of time to grab the good stuff. You only need 1 minute to find a day/night server. I still think however that once we have enough servers/server capacity/dedicated servers you should get one life on one server. PERIOD. DOT. Solves everything.

You....just...contradicted yourself. If things are more important than dayz than go take care of them and stop worrying about dayz! I agree that his daughter should be more important to him than whether he has to DC or not to keep his character from being killed or getting a bad mark. Thats what I have been saying all along. I have also been saying that while his daughter should be more important to him than dayz, it is not important to ME or the other thousands of gamers that would be affected in a negative manner by rocket taking sympathy on the minority uncommon issues that have NOTHING to do with the overall enjoyment of his game play experience. There are plenty of ways for him to do what he needs to do and not DC.

He said he is developing algorithms. If your power goes out and his algorithms just happen to be good enough to tell that 8 other players in the area sorrounding your neighborhood, done through IP addresses, also lost DC than you wont get a bad mark. Also if this happens your power will not be restored for some time in some cases. If its just a hiccup and comes back online quickly, its a freak occurence that probably wont happen again for a while, and so therefore, will not get a bad mark. If you are playing dayz in the middle of a lightning storm than well, you should change your keyboard to an all metal design and see if that helps. Game crashes, happens but again, not so often that it would show as negative marks with a well developed algorithm. If it is happening all the time, you should prob be focussing on fixing the obvious problem you have with your game/computer/OS than playing dayz. Intermentent signal is also another infrequent, although more frequent than previous, occurance scenario that DCer and server hoppers love to bring up. It happens sometimes sure, but again, if it is happening so often in a short time frame that you get a bad rep on the hive, you need to be on the phone with your ISP NOT playing dayz! And nuclear attack from Russia? I wont even go there cuz I know you were joking. See? I have a good explanation and solution for all of them folks. Keep em coming. See if you can stump me. This is nearing rediculous levels. The majority of people that are up in arms about this ARE your DCers, server hoppers, KoSers.

I can speak several dozen sentences in german actually. Rosetta stone is awseome as is deployment and temporary duty at Ramstien. But I digress, I posted an end all style post about the anti DC mechanic argument. YOu dont like it becuase you feel I was rude, or dont agree. I understand that for a European it may be difficult to understand or agree with non socialist Utopian ideals. And before you all flag me for being ignorant i understand there are conservatives in Europe, but leftist everyone should cater to my disadvantage types are the majority. At least in many germanic/nordic countries anyway. Well Im sorry for our cultural difference but all my points where valid. Perhaps having it in a bullet format will help? - Have to tend to work? Family? Dog? Important matters? = Its more important than Dayz! Go take care of it. - Dont want to die or DC while you tend to the more inportant issue? = Hide! In a forest, your golden. Chances are slim anyone will come up on you. In a field? Find a hedgrow. Chances are still slim? In a city? Hide in a bush, alley, building, outskirt building. Chances are better someone will come up on you but thats a risk you'll need to take. - Important matter is going to take a while? = Log the hell out. Its more inportant. Except that now was not your time to play. By the time said issue is resolved the limit or minimum time for bad rep has expired. - Have crappy internet? = Buy more bandwidth you cheapskape. - Live in a rural area? =Move or sell your copy of Dayz if you can. You shouldent have bought something you should have known youd have a hard time playing. Its not that posters or his daughters fault that she has medical issues. But guess what? Its not mine either or the other 100s of thousands of dayz players. Couple that with all of the perfectly reasonable solutions I posted above and bringing it up in the first place smells of desired sympathy votes from the community for a game mechanic.

English isn't your first language huh? I couldent even decipher what you said. I wasn't talking about pointless responses in forums. I was talking about how anti DC mechanic posters have no real argument.

No they do not. Im sorry if you daughter really does have medical issues, but that has NOTHING to do with me, or the game or the devs. This is not a building or employer that needs to cater to the disabled by federal law. Its a video game. A handicapped parking space, a wheelchair ramp isnt a real inconvienience to anyone. But to say that just because your daughter has medical issues and you have to DC to "take care of it" is bullshit. And than to say that anyone who has to DC for ANY friggin reason is a valid point to not implement this system is bull. I call bull on all this I hate DC because of this or that. Go prone, hide, and deal with it. Dayz is not being played in a 2km X 2km map. Its huge. If you are in elektro you can still safely hide for a little while and do whatever you need to do without someone coming up on you. Sorry if I sound like a dick, but I hate people feeling entitled to something like game mechanics being completely reveresed to cater to people with bad connections, disabilities or real life situations. I have a real life, an important job where I can be called in a moments notice to fix critical things. I am not going to bitch about the DC thing because of it. If I get a call from work or my dog has to piss I will go prone and hide for 5 minutes. If I know im going to be gone for a while than just DC and come back in an hour or however friggin long it takes to not get bad rep. Children are a choice, as are pets and wives. If they get in the way of you playing your game, sorry. I didn't want a wife or kids to nag me if I am playing a game. And if I had them and had to do something for them I wouldent be up in arms that the DC mechanic didnt allow me to take care of MORE INPORTANT THINGS. (To you, not me or any other person that dosent know you or your family. It all comes down to you and your life inconviencing other people in a game) Its so rediculous it makes me cry bullshit that anyone would even mention it as a valid reason. The solutions are so obvious and simple is comical to me when ANYONE suggests reasons why DC timers, DC banns are a bad idea. Its almost so obvious you are an avid DCer, server hopper. And I dont mean the the poster I quoted but rather all of the people that bitch about the DC thing. You internet sucks? Maybe you shouldent be playing dayz? When I lived in the dorms on base the internet DID suck. I was paying more than it was worth. I couldent play games, period. I didnt call up rockstar and bitch about they should change RDR network code so I could be able to play and it screw up others. If your internet is so bad that DC bans and such are a serious risk to your enjoying the game, than you probably arent enjoying the game ANYWAY because your internet sucks. You are screwing everyone else with your high latency and expect us to cater to your internet speed disability. I WOULD LOVE to have 100 acres in the middle of montana where no fiber cables exist but if I choose to live there I am not going to bitch at company A because I cant play video games online. Bottom line is, do not expect or feel entitled to anything, especially in a mod. If you spend 80000 dollars on a corvette and the city you live in has no paved roads, are you gonna bitch at the city goverment to build paved roads just for your corvette, NO! You shouldent have bought a corvette in the boondocks. Same way you shouldent have bout an MMO if you live in the sticks. Welfare babies ugh.

even if I downgrade to the beta patch before the latest I am still getting stuck at waiting for character to create.