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This meme again? Tell me again why discussing problems with a game in alpha state is faggotry. WillyWonka.jpg (Apologies to whom I stole the meme tag from)

Praise for the sake of praise and the lack of any real point despite the contrary of what is going on with the in game mechanics does not help the state of the mod.

They really arent that bad. Sorry you cant sprint through town hitting every loot spot. Sorry you have to think and plan...and actually pass up shots on other players in fear of the zombie wave that will incur. We dont want to be selfish....let just make the game so that YOU can enjoy it. * [REVERT] Infected sight based on head not body direction (infected glace around alot' date=' this meant that they had super view directions. Now locked at body direction) [/quote'] what does that prove exactly? Some ppl take the challenge and continue playing, while you and your group of whiners come cry, and write prophetic posts about who to listen to and try to get it reverted? If it isnt zombies, its going to be players. You are going to die non stop. Quit being a pixel hugging douche bag, and play the game. You loose your fancy gun? So what.....dont tear up...theres another. What it proves, and what your post proves, is that you're wrong and aren't really the type of person who belongs in the alpha of a game. rocket seemed to have brought up Melee as a discussion point in one of the various threads about the effect of taking away guns. Here's hoping, right? Although how zombies act may need to be improved in order for it to have any real affect. Unless melee is meant to be ultra deadly for you, not for your target.

They really arent that bad. Sorry you cant sprint through town hitting every loot spot. Sorry you have to think and plan...and actually pass up shots on other players in fear of the zombie wave that will incur. We dont want to be selfish....let just make the game so that YOU can enjoy it. * [REVERT] Infected sight based on head not body direction (infected glace around alot, this meant that they had super view directions. Now locked at body direction)

A lot of you people saying the zombies are just fine should read the hotfix notes. They aren't.

Thanks Rocket.

Not sure if doesn't get alpha or is trolling.

My thread was closed and apparently I was told to post it here. Hopefully it will be a useful discussion piece in between people calling eachother carebears and telling everyone to go back to Cod. 1.7.1 playlog I am going to update this once the hotfix is made available. I am going to document my experiences and attempt to test the overall gameplay of the new patch. I am currently well geared, except I do not have NVG or silenced weapons. After some time in the non coastal regions of the map, I will die, give up my gear to the wilds, and start over on the beaches to continue documenting from there. What I have played of this patch so far: Logged in to find night was too dark to play without a source of light and I didn't want to give my position away. This morning, I moved up on a pack of zombies to test line of sight. In the first group, One saw me through the bushes and charged me. I managed to get far enough away to use my weapon. one hit caused me to start bleeding, I forget to document my starting blood level. The next pack I came across I tested distance. They weren't spotting me(they were facing right towards me, so they had to have seen me with their eyes) from half a mile away, so that is good. I got a fairly good distance to them, one where I'd expect to be shot at by a player if we were to round opposite ends of the block, and they didn't rush me. I will test this further once the hotfix is in place.

Well said, good sir. *slow clap*

I am going to update this once the hotfix is made available. I am going to document my experiences and attempt to test the overall gameplay of the new patch. I am currently well geared, except I do not have NVG or silenced weapons. After some time in the non coastal regions of the map, I will die, give up my gear to the wilds, and start over on the beaches to continue documenting from there. What I have played of this patch so far: Logged in to find night was too dark to play without a source of light and I didn't want to give my position away. This morning, I moved up on a pack of zombies to test line of sight. In the first group, One saw me through the bushes and charged me. I managed to get far enough away to use my weapon. one hit caused me to start bleeding, I forget to document my starting blood level. The next pack I came across I tested distance. They weren't spotting me(they were facing right towards me, so they had to have seen me with their eyes) from half a mile away, so that is good. I got a fairly good distance to them, one where I'd expect to be shot at by a player if we were to round opposite ends of the block, and they didn't rush me. I will test this further once the hotfix is in place.

You can tell this guy is british, or atleast learned english from an institute which taught the Queen's English because he calls the covered truck a Lorry. But I get what you mean. I've had a few fights where I wanted to talk to the guy because we ended up having a massive gunbattle for no apparent reason.

I probably have bandit status from shooting people who were set to "Shoot on site" I've gotten good at dodging the first shot, apparently.

In general there is only a handful of buildings you can enter, and you usually have to learn to spot them through trial and error. The Easiest way to tell is if you can see inside a window. guns usually spawn in barns(hay and cattle variants), warehouses, deer stands, and some houses. Doors that you can open, can be closed by using the scroll button command list. Zombies still pass/see through doors from what I heard, so it may be best not to bother with that for now. You also pick stuff up through the scroll button list. The best way to do it is to look at the gear, scroll with your mouse down to "gear" on the menu which shows up, click, and then manage your inventory through that. you can also hit g to open up the gear menu although I don't think it will show you what is on the ground if you go through that method.

This. The meme was cute when the hackers were getting banned, but since then it's been used inappropriately.

can't simultanously call it an alpha and then call people who post that there are things wrong with the patch "whiners"

The Makarov was not a defensive mechanism against players' date=' it simply was not. Its incredibly low damage coupled with atrocious accuracy meant that in order to down any non AFK player would require at least 4 magazines to be fired. Anybody who has a proper weapon and whose soul intent is to kill you is going to, and was going to, even in the last patch. The Makarov was only a defence against zombies. An incredible defence. I would even say the best defence, easily the best weapon for killing zombies in the entire game. Far too good, and it made zombies irrelevant. That is the issue that was being addressed. And it has been addressed. [/quote'] This being a complete 180 from the argument that "This game is tough! even a makarov bullet will take you down!"

The point is, when you roll out the red carpet for griefing, people are going to grief.

Exactly, at least BEFORE you had to be SOMEWHAT stealthy, because if a band of newcomers came running at your ass and got lucky with some Makrov rounds, you were down for the count. Now, you can pretty much walk around and lulz for the winz while gunning everyone down for shits and giggles without any kind of danger. The ONE balancing feature to that is the instant sight zombies...but when you have NVG and people who spawn with just a flashlight do not...

So I haven't gotten on to play since night time is nearly impossible when you don't have a working light source, but what it sounds like is that the "improved vision" was cranked up too high. In fact, what some of the people here have described is what ARMA had with it's AI: You could be MILES away and shoot a silenced weapon at someone, yet they'll know where you are instantly and start firing. With 100 percent accuracy. Or, at least that's what I remember from it. I know what to expect, here is hoping it's not as bad as it sounds. These are some legitimate complaints. This isn't a full game. It's an Alpha. Things are tried out. You wouldn't play a game where the only option upon joining the game was to die and respawn about 50 times, would you?

Within 5 seconds of jumping into a server I see "I didn't even have a gun you f*****" Anyways night time is far too dark to play once more. I slink to the shadows to wait to see how things are tomorrow!

I don't think Melee is going to help with bandits farming kills on the beaches. That being said I like the idea of melee being in the game. There are LOTS of videos out there about bashing in the heads of zombies. However, I feel that the zombies as is(I haven't seen them 1.7.1, still waiting for the files to download) moves too erratically for melee to be effective. So it depends. Is Melee for defense against early zombie attacks? Or for against other players?

Nah, I think that a combination of little to no gear and bandits being already geared is going to result in some sort of bloodbath.