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Id say playable....but.. If you have a lot of time in the mod then it gets boring fast due to a lot of features not being in. If you want something with more depth wait, at the moment there's not much to do past gearing and PvP. But if you didn't play the mod then you could spend most of the alpha just exploring Chernarus :)

One lol We were both friendly at first then he tried to axe me, so I reciprocated and somehow won. But iv spent most of my 20 odd hours scouting new campsites, and exploring, up north. All three of my other encounters went well, no one wanted to trade but we both walked away every time :)

As others have said, if ya think the introduction of vehicles will mean you dont have to run for 30 mins,dont count on it lol. Remember they wont spawn working, they will spawn broken. Then you will have to run for parts, you might not find them and have to run somewhere else. Then when you do eventually find them, you probs wont be able to carry them all. So that's more running for how ever many trips it takes. All that's provided large groups haven't stashed most of the vehicles away from there spawns, and that no one finds the car your fixing and finishes the job while you are away looting parts. I think running has, and always will be, a big part of dayz :)

For some odd reason I can't paste lol... If you go to announcements section, then go to one called "Confirmed Upcoming Features for Dayz" (or something like that). That will give you a good idea of what's planned and how long they think its gonna take :) EDIT - Chrome ftw :) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/156129-confirmed-upcoming-features-for-dayz/

Luckily I haven't had to respawn since they changed them so iv not experienced it yet, but from all iv read I don't see why they don't just spread the spawns out down the east coast. As someone said in another thread "the west is the new north" because of balota/new big mill base and NWA. Running has always been a big part of dayz, but ATM its not too bad. With unlimited sprint we can cross the map inside of 30mins :)

Im with OP on this one. They just aren't a threat atm, and yeah I know there will be more, but even then what's the point. 20 zombies that can't catch you is no more scary than 5 that can't. I think once stamina is in and we have a limit to how much we can sprint, then they should be pegged right inbetween our run and sprint speed. That way we do have a chance to get away with sprint but if it runs out too early we would be screwed :)

I have indeed.... In 1st only you cannot be peeked on...in 3rd you can, therefore there is, maybe not a greater, but another challenge in playing 3rd on. A challenge 1st players will never have to deal with. Thats just one thing that can make 3rd harder. Another being that if you are within about 5m of a player you got about 2% chance of hitting them in 3rd due to the crosshair not reflecting where the bullet will hit. First players again never have to deal with it. That being said there are things that make 1st harder aswell, i wont dispute that. Like looking over your shoulder with a tall pack on or not being able to see over grass when prone. Im not trolling here, I honestly feel that not enough people openly support 3rd on the forum, here it seems way biast towards 1st, but the playerbase says otherwise . And if the dev team looked on the forums they would consider removal. I feel that i should continue to defend its remaining in the game. Why would you say to me "no valid points against 1st"...thats irrelivent if you know im not arguing against it. It seems as though you didnt read my posts fully to me. Then you told me im talking bulshit, but have yet to show me what you consider bullshit so i can elaborate (appart obviously from dean enjoying 3rd, it seems he dosent). Im here so the devs know there are a lot of people that like 3rd and would love it to stay in the game. And to stop wild generalisations about view choice relating to who a player is and the standards they have. Sure i repeat myself, but so do all the first crowd, go have a go at them for not bringing anything new to the table. Or do i just get the backlash because im on the wrong side of the fence? PS they can pick on me all they want lol :) i aint going anywhere :P

OMG "take it up with rocket"....."take it up with BIS".....carnt you see thats what im doing by posting my view here. What you want me do? jump on a plane and go tell them myself....this is what the forum exists for. Im not aruging against 1st...READ!!!!!!!!!!!! I know exaclty what im aguing for you just havent understood.....so in caps for some people.... I LOVE 1ST I AM NOT ARGUING AGAINST 1ST I AM ARGUING AGAINST THE COMPLETE REMOVAL OF 3RD FROM THE GAME AS PROPOSED BY SOME. AND TOOMES QUITE REDICULOUS CLAIM THAT PEOPLE WHO ENJOY 3RD HAVE LOWER STANDARDS.

What dumb ass shit......quotes plz. I need to know what "dumb ass shit" im saying so i can explain it better. And im not reading....humph.....iv already said i love 1st and 3rd....removing either would hurt the game.

This is an issue that really strikes a nerve for me, fighting the 3rd corner on the forums is the best i can do as regards "take it up with rocket". Most people dont loot in 3rd, its awfull and clips through walls regularly, if anything it slows you down. Appart from what i said about rocket, which i concede was wrong what is rubbish... The fact that 3rd is used is a story telling tool in many games That it can add great immersion That it isnt exploited half as much as the 1st crew claims That you feel safer on a 1st person server ( so calling it hardcore dosent fly for me) You carnt take one thing i said, that was wrong, and say all of what im saying is rubbish. What else is rubbish? Toomes.... I get your arguments....i just think you can only see the game as one thing....competitive online fps. Third adds so much to this game from a non combat perspective. Not everyone just wants a gun and a balanced shooting game....we have litterally thousands of those already. Why not let this one have RPG elements, as its closer to that than an FPS.

Well ok, i didnt know he played 1st only....all the old dev blogs had 3rd. But i still think its people running from a challenge, and i know for a fact i feel a lot safer on a first person server.....shouldnt i feel more vunerable on a "harder" mode?

Realistic yes....hardcore no. Hardcore would be changes to the core gamplay, not just something that has been a server setting since arma. Its only taking you longer because you are cautious, thats a player choice wether to be cautious or not, and dosent relate to a 1st or 3rd choice. You can scan just as quick in 1st as 3rd but its up to you in both views wether you do a detailed scan of the area, or a less in depth one. My point was that the only real reason people go to first is because they dont like that people can peek. So they remove that challenge by migrating to a supposedly "hardcore" server where they dont have to worry about it. IMO it should just be called 3rd off. And hardcore should be reserved for a set of servers that have major gameplay changes like low loot, harder hitting zeds, less guns ect.

Now you are bringing up hive issues.....so simply put....it dosent effect you. All you do is cry.....and paint a picture that every person who uses 3rd is exploiting it.....you are simply wrong. I hear a gunshot in a town i approach....i instantly swap to 1st so i can fire if needed....i dont pan round in 3rd behind a wall trying to spot....thats no fun. Im therfore not using it as an aid....im using it to immerse myself i the world and have a chance to see my toon interact with said world. The problem IMO with loosing 3rd is that it pushes the game in the direction of cometitive deathmatch fps.....not a social experiment where interacting with people is a main feature. This is not a FPS....First Person Shooter.....its a hell of a lot more even if some carnt see that. What? why exactly would we shed the biggest tears.....i know for sure id be just as pissed off if 1st was removed as if 3rd was. Either would take a lot away from the game. We arent bad at making arguments....you are either bad at remembering what you said or cannont understand..... Il make it clear what that last point was.....you say people who enjoy 3rd have low standards.....rocket obviously enjoys 3rd....for whatever reason....he climbed everest....so therefor eveyone that likes 3rd does not have low standards.....was that enough hand holding trough a simple metaphor?

How about giving us an answer to some of the quetions the first crowd coviniently ignores every time. AKA... How does any 3rd exploit effect you while you enjoy your 1st person server? How exactly do we present ourselfs as low? We are all equal....the fact that you need something to see me as a level peer, and dont, by default, treat everyone as such, again enfoces your elitest views. We do not try to force our playstyle as the best, we never try to say that 1st should be removed entirely, because we know others prefer it and ....heres the kicker.....respect how others want to play the game. And btw....comparing 3rd to a easier difficulty is a flawed comparison. Playing in 1st only makes you safer and bypasses something that is a challenge within the game. You have basically made playing easier by making it less likely to be spotted. And this is my point entirely, you assume that 3rd players are the type to not adjust game difficulty to high, thats just false. Id much rather play l4d on expert if im going to do a campain for the challenge. I would play dayz on a real "hardcore" mode with limited loot and harder hitting zombies....but i would still want 3rd. To sum up what i mean..... Dean chose an engine with 3rd perspective He then chose to list it as a feature He then chose not to remove it Yet people that like 3rd have low standards.... The man just climbed Everest......yeah low standards indeed.

Not yet but, yes it will be fixed, it was (to a degree) in the mod. For speculating on how to fix it, id go to one of the thousands of threads about it ;)

I see what OP means, and sure 1 is scary now. But for me its just because there is so few that makes one scary. When theres loads 1 may loose its danger a bit, but just imagine... Your sat on a hill starving You can see the town that will have that precious can of tuna But instead of 6 zombies you can see loads all over the place And you know shooting them is futile because they will just respawn Its gonna get good and scary later on i think :)

3rd users use first for combat all the time, so we choose to have both at our disposal. That completely negates your argument that we are unwilling to try. 1st has a lot of advantages, so does 3rd (outside of combat, for both immersion and story building). Some are great in 1st, but why should that mean when running alone in the woods they carnt enjoy a bit of 3rd, see that gear they worked hours for, connect with the character , tell....there story. You now trying to bait 3rd users by insinuating that they have lower standards is comical. You have no real reasons why the hive split is a bad thing, and the good far outweighs the bad. And thats why you now resort to this bs attempt at smearing 3rd users, by questioning who we are as people.....really just get over it and enjoy the 1st person servers that the devs kindly enabled. Maybe even thank them for doing it.....but no i bet you will just keep on trying to propose that we are lesser people.....most of your posts only enforce the elitest view of most 1st only advocates.. You attempting to cast judgement on others based on such a trivial yardstick, and the attempt to smear 3rd users, speaks more to your true nature than anything anyone could ever say.

I carnt find a view distance slider anymore....but i was also under the impression that the view distance was set by the server. Was always that way in Dayz mod and A2 MP missions. Like even if i had it set to 10k for editing, when i joined Dayz/domination/cti whatever...its what the server stipulates. Does changing it in player profile actually make any difference?

Its threads like this that make the wait for SA all worth it....i love how it even ties into steam now, so ingame name change wont help them lol :)

Get rid of maps completely...then the only way to get one is draw it yourself! We could become cartographers, and sell our maps for beans :D

I dont see why they did this, surely they can just give server owners the chance to pick a timezone at some point. Maybe restrict the function to once a week it can be changed or something. Then if they want to tweak the cycle they can, but they wont be able to just set daytime every restart :)

Those little white things were in the mod aswell ;)

Yep i get the same thing all the time, would love to know why lol

Im all for lower weapon spawns, and i think that once there are say 20 guns in the game, it wont be a problem finding one, but finding the correct ammo to match it could be :) Also i had quote button stop working in internet explorer ages ago, switched to chrome for the forums and its been fine since :)

I agree with the OP on this one. I feel that adding more mill camps has sort of made the game more about finding a weapon than before. In the mod people sometimes just made do with a crappy weapon and went to try and fix a car, knowing they could avoid hotspots and just scavenge parts. Or go in search of tents to set up a base, before trying for the beast itself....NWA. Now there are so many mill loot places, and not just basic like the mod tents, but soooo many barracks. Its like getting a gun will now always be what people want to do first, with so many options why wait. Im sure we will see balancing towards the end when more items are in, and maybe some buildings will be altered or replaced. But atm i feel like its gone towards one of those mods of mods like overwatch, when i was expecting it to lean more towards a vanilla z but better. Dont get me wrong those mods were popular, and if it will attract players thats good. Just surprised me a bit :)