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You Get What You Pay For Survival Servers, Dayz.st, Hfbservers, Vilayer
thejackrabbit posted a topic in Mod Servers & Private Hives
Figured I would make this post for anybody who is looking for a decent server provider as I found some VERY interesting results. After I took the time to play on servers from the 4 companies I put in the title Survival Servers, Dayz.st, Hfb servers, And Vilayer I figured I would post my results. Survival Servers= $30 base package Servers felt a bit slugish to me, joining was a bit slow, had gear saving issues, small periods of desync, But over all felt playable at best. This test was done while there was 7 people on the 40 slot server I joined. Player for a period of 30 mins found i had a total of about 30 seconds of yellow chain and 5-6 seconds of Red chain. Loading time took about 15-20 seconds to get into server {from point of "loading"} lost my beans and hatchet on disconnect and reconnect at end of play session. Amount of servers per machine= 16 Dayz.St=$30 Base Package Servers felt very sluggish at peak had load time of 48 seconds. Had periods of red chain desync for more then 10 seconds at a time. Gear did all save successfully. Once again playable at best and would not call one of their servers home. Play time 46mins Players 12 Servers per machine=20 Hfb servers=$35 Base Package Servers felt very responsive, very short load times `5 seconds, gear saved correctly, Noticed yellow desync for about 2 seconds. Play time 48mins players at start 8 at end of play session 26 {not sure where everybody came from} but once again at end of session dissconnect and reconnected faced `5 second load time. number of servers per machine=5 Vilayer=$39.30 with front page coupon Servers felt very responsive, once again short loading times `5 seconds, `10 seonds of yellow desync and `3 seconds of red. Gear saved correctly, play time 1 hour 15mins {found a chopper and could not help myself} players consistant 15 Servers per machine=5 So after all that let me draw some conclusions here. It appears that the newwer companies to the dayz server hosting market are running a lot of servers per machine {most likely too many} where as the original companies are running a lot less Dates below are when the companies started hosting DayZ servers. Survival servers | started August 20th Dayz.st | started September 8th Hfb Servers | started May 23rd {worth noting was the largest dayz provider in the USA at one point} Vilayer | started May 25th {was the largest EU provider around the time Hfb was the Largest USA provider} Seems to me your best bet is going with the companies that have been around the longest, and the ones that are not overselling their servers. Companies like Vilayer and Hfb have been around since the beggining of dayz as we know it, and are still around for a reason. They know what they are doing which is something these new providers do not. Dayz.st and Survival servers you are setting your self up for failure by running sooooooo many servers per machine. Now its time for me to say some things that have been on my mind and I want the owners of these companies I named in the post to see. Survival Servers. Please for the love of god stop bumping your own posts and replying to every little post in the attempts to keep your thread at the top. And please stop using your post as a update and support section :/ its just annoying. Also your title please stop posting things that you are not the only one to have then act like you are like the current "bliss 3.6 latest" Hfb has this, vilayer has this, and im pretty sure dayz.st has this. Dayz.st Pleast stop acting like you are this big shot multi millionaire who has started fortune 500 companies. You make posts about vilayer and hfb being "microscopic" in compairison to what you have done. Well here is your time, tell us, what have you done that is sooooooo much bigger then a company like vilayer that has been in the gsp industry for several years and has thousands of game servers. You seem to talk a bunch of crap but never have the proof to back it. From what i have seen all your .st sites they are not very big or even successful so yea. I think you are just full of crap. Hfb servers glad to see you and vilayer are sort of friends but please for the love of god GET A REAL FUCKING SITE your site looks like crap very generic and plain like a person took a template and just renamed everything. You site is crap plain and simple, And also raise your prices so you dont blend in with these low price over selling hosts like survival and dayz.st Vilayer glad to see you are working with hfb but please SPAWN THEIR SERVERS VEHICLES, Since you are the company running this dayz planet thing and have access to the dayz planet hive why cant you spawn vehicles for their servers, my server with them has been vehicleless for far too long where as the server I have with you always has vehicles. Also please give us changelogs when you make an update to the maps, I see "new version of xx out" yet I have no idea what to expect. Hell the amazing fallujah update that added a fuck load of loot and an even bigger fuckload of zombies would have been nice to know.... So yea that is my post. All in all if you want a good server to play on or to rent go with hfb and vilayer {no particular order} if you want a cheap server then go with survival servers or dayz.st -
HFB, Vilayer, and DayZCommander need to knock this crap off..
thejackrabbit replied to ersan's topic in DayZ Mod General Discussion
Sounds to me like a little host is getting mad at the big boys in the dayz hosting business because they are not sharing their cake with him. Have you ever thought that the reason why dayz commander released their version is because they have the servers backing it to warrant it being on commander? Before their release there was maybe 20 servers with panthera after their release almost 200, it only makes sense for the dayz commander author to back the people hosting almost all the servers on that list. Lets face it, the rest of the hosts might as well stand in line and follow as they rule the industry, I want to talk numbers of servers here to sort of validate my point, Survival Servers id estimate 200-300 servers, Host Altitude 200-300, Dayz.st 100-200, HFB 700-800, Vilayer 900-1000, rest of little hosts 100-150, self dedicateds 250-300. Now tell me, do you see an outlier there? Yea Thats right Vilayer and HFB now its only logical that the two biggest hosts partner up/work together on something, which leads me to my next point. Dayz Planet, notice how all the maps were re-branded with dayz planet? not Vilayer Not HFB but Dayz Planet. Now my only guess for that since the website is just a blank screen at the moment, is that they are trying to make a more unified private server place. The reason I say this is because I have a server with both Vilayer and HFB and I noticed that as soon as HFB started hosting fallujah I had the same player saves on my vilayer server and my HFB server. I contacted HFB asking what Hive this was connected to and they stated the DayZ Planet HIVE, which this was a shock to me as i have never heard of this before as this was over a week ago, well before the maps were released. Now this is where I get to the good parts, You are saying this is a bad thing, this is hurting the community, and a ton of random other stuff. Has it ever occurred to you that HFB and Vilayer are actually working to help unify the community and get everybody into the same boat? What I mean by that is at the moment, there is a like 3 different versions of takistan 3 different versions of fallujah 2 versions of panthera, and tons of other random map ports and mods floating around tunngle and these forums which is just confusing new people to dayz. It appears to me that Dayz Planet is their attempt to suck everything up into one place make a just one version of each map/mod, As for one, you are bitching saying Vilayer and HFB released maps and they are just attempting to make money off of them, But tell me, where on the dayz planet maps loading screen or mission details do you see VILAYER ONLY or HFBSERVERS ONLY, thats right you DONT see it. You know for sure vilayer would have made a lot more sales if they just left it takistan/fallujah/utes by vilayer.com and hfbservers.com but they did not they said "by dayzplanet.com" I personally think we will be seeing a new very good community and server group coming up as they already have the largest private hive out there, tons of servers to release things on, players to endorse it and much more. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe just maybe they made it whitelabel for a reason, and maybe just maybe they have plans on releasing server files in the future just give them time. All i have to say, is if dayz planet becomes as big as I think it can, it will be the best thing for dayz mod. That brings me to my next point. Have any of you actually Seriously talked to vilayer or hfb about dayz planet, not just said "can i haz maps plz". Im sure HFB built a trust with Vilayer as something like this would not be happening if they did not. People like you making posts flaming them about their attempt to HELP UNIFY the community because your not selling enough servers, or have not taken the time to use your words and talk to them, or what ever the reason is, You are all bitching and making HFB And Vilayer out to be the bad people, I know for sure that if the leading people who are doing these other maps and ports simply spoke to Vilayer or HFB and said "hey i want to help with dayz planet" instead of wasting their time reverse engineering dayz planet maps that they might, just might have been asked to join the dayz planet team. Now to the whole drama about them copying panthera and how their version is soooooo much worse, that is bullshit. The only thing I have heard people say was worse was a little bit of FLOATING FUCKING LOOT my god such a big deal :o [not sure if you can sense the sarcasm] And to that mrs... something guy who bitched about copied code, Tell me, where did your base code come from well I can tell you that a majority of the base code these people are using actually came from some one who tore apart vilayer's takistan when it first came out as they were pretty much the first [with the exception of lingor] to actually modify dayz extensively. I say this because I was semi interested in dayz modding and map porting for a little while and I know for a fact that there is certain bits of code that are NOT in standard dayz that made their first appearance in vilayer takistan which them just happen to make it into the takistan and fallujah ports and here is the kicker, even in the original panthera that was posted on tunngle XD thats what I find fucking funny as hell. Did you see pwnozor get mad at vilayer for releasing fallujah before he had his version 100% finished [but done] no you did not he simply moved on and made Emita City, did not bitch, did not complain just moved on. Now for you ersan, why in the world are you bitching at another host in a PUBLIC FORUM you have a problem with someone in your same area of server hosting you take it up with them personally, not bitch and moan on here. The only people who do that type of thing are children who cant fight there urges to bitch/ cant do anything to fix them and needs the assurance of others to keep them on their high horse and of course try to sell a few servers... Do you see any other server hosts bitching and complaining? no you dont because they know that childish behavior like that will give customers a bad taste when looking at you. TL:DR People need to stop bitching and complaining. It seems Vilayer and HFB are doing something a lot better for the community then anybody else.