I'd agree with that, i remember CS 1.6 also being a mod and when it came out, hackers were everywhere due to the open nature of the half-life engine (one of the first of its kind!) they were very much caught off guard with how to deal with it, mods will always be open to this sort of thing i guess. Thing about 1.6 is you came on, and if a hacker was present, you'd just find a new server. Unfortunately Day Z is different, you invest a lot of time in to it for it to be taken from you in a matter of moments by one of these hackers which is why im going to quit but i will definitely be making a return to the standalone version to see how that turns out! Hackers will definatley have a hard time exploiting a closed engine :).

Alright fair enough i have changed the post topic!

If you could tell me what those measures are i'd appritiate it :)

It kinda is, when you consider its an "MMORPG", although i use that term loosely, i dont think it'll be a proper MMORPG like other games of its kind. If the standalone Day Z fixes the hack issues and is more optomized, i dont think War Z can beat it, either way as you put it and are very much true, with more options out there the consumer can only benefit! There will be enough ways to get our zombie fix :D

Hey, yes i have I played the original OFP, Arma 1 and 2, what i mean by "Sluggish" is that even systems many years newer than this game have to run the settings relativley lower in a bid to play it smoothly, im not talking about the way they have designed the game and aiming etc to work. The engine needs more optimization imho.

Your post is somewhat flawed, at no point did i say "War Z will be better than Day Z", on the flip side as a game, it'll probably be worse, more comparable to CoD with its shooting style. I infact said War Z would most likely not be as compromised as Day Z is, which is a fairly legitimate estimation. Dont fanboi out on me and read the post.

I'll PM you a video of it, im sure i can find 1, im not going to post videos in public though.

It probably wont, but i make valid points and don't particularly whine or call the devs horrible names etc. The point im making is that cheats are a problem and have been for ages, i may come back on the stand alone version, i didn't reduce my post to "whaa i died this game sucks", instead of i praise the game and its idea, if the standalone version sorts these problems out believe me i'll be back quicker than my jeep fell off that cliff, but i don't think its a particularly radical move to quit a game that can be ended by exploiters that is of substantial timesync, im sure people of logic can agree with that :).

I love Day Z, i love its simplicity, i love the way the PVP adrenaline is the closest thing to Eve-Online i've come. I love the realism, the teamwork, the paranoia, no doubt its one of a kind. Unfortunatley you just picked the wrong game engine to base this amazing idea on. Its sluggish, the netcode is god-awful, and its flooded with hackers. I've been playing since early alpha, i've been killed due to terminator-immune hackers twice, i've been killed by a guy firing Shilka anti-air explosive rounds from his eyes, once, i've been killed 5 times by being teleported in front of a guy with an M249 and now, hence the reason for the post and the reason i officially quit: I've been teleported off a cliff, in my jeep that took me ages to repair, with my full camo, M4 with 7 mags, NV goggles, map gps and just about every great item you can invest a large amount of survival time in to getting. I've only ever got myself into a working Huey 1 time which was brought down by the AA cyborg. There are hacks out there which show every zombie on the map, the survivors, god mode, duplication hacks, there a crap tonn more but i wont give idiots ideas, just go check youtube to find out what your up against. For that reason im going to quit, call it whine call it whatever you like but i have stuck with these things for a loonnngg time, and today was the final straw and the reason for that is its fairly abundant at this point nothing is being done to fix the situation. I wish luck to all of you who continue to play and hope you are not affected by these people, and all i can say is roll on War Z, nothing can be as badly compromised as Day Z.