Rage VG

Cue the mindless hate. Though I think the answer is obvious.

But the desert's over there, and I'm over here. Effoooooort.

Good to know.

Or you could abort. :B

GAWSH MODS UR SO UNPROFESSIONAL I'M UNSUBBING.

You know, I was thinking of helping you, but then I counted the amount of exclamation marks you used, and I don't think there's enough to convince me it's that urgent. The three comments above are the general troubleshooting tricks.

Shaddap.

"Is that you?" "There's a hacker in here." "Do you think the car will be there?"

NO STFU SUTPID TIBETAN-CEREMONIAL-BALLSA-WOODY-ENTERTAINMENT-DRUMBS FANBOY WRISTWATCH FOR LIFE

I really don't feel this deserves its own thread. The post in the thread you linked was enough.

No. Besides the fact rocket has said in the past that he's going to go with what he feels would be interesting for the mod, in general, a change to the game, ANY game, should be agreeable to the majority of the community. This is what this thread is all about; finding out what that is and why. Of course, we are talking about DayZ however, and rocket has made it well aware that he's gonna add what he feels would work. And I've yet to find an issue with that; there's been no changes that I can't get behind to some degree. Exactly. So obviously they'd want to make the decision that satisfies the most people. Obviously the opinion of one would be illogical to follow over the opinion of many. This is why I disagreed with his reasoning over mine; he was saying how he played and how it never affected him, but I had my scope on everybody.

Can you give us an IP for the server? And, perhaps, the name of the admin in question?

Well, not so much since the crosshair is also subject to these systems and functions. It moves with gun sway, yada yada. However yes, it would really take away from a big part of the immersion. However, that is something that can be fixed with turning them off, and removing the feature would be unnecessary. The other point, about the hacks, is an example of why it should be removed completely. In other news, SO MANY NOTIFICATIONS AAAAAAAAAAAGH.

When you put it that way, I believe that's a better reason for removing it. I'd say that's enough of a reason to justify removing it, even if the option to turn it on would be more favorable. Again, if the whole HUD's going, then I'm all for that, too. My reply to that was simply that I didn't uderstand what made the crosshairs the more viable option (as far as a HUD in general went, ignoring other factors such as the aforementioned prevention of hacks).

There will still be tonnes of players from the mod who've played with crosshairs. Personally, (And I don't want you to take what I'm about to say the wrong way; even if I don't agree with you, your opinion cannot be incorrect) I don't agree with your reasoning simply because you're still only talking about you. You've never shot from the hip, you always aim down sights. I'm seriously going to sound like a broken record repeating this, and I apologize for that, but I think that when you consider why you should and shouldn't do something, you should not rely on personal choice. Instead think of the entire community at large. Does literally nobody shoot from the hip, and can you attest to that? Again, not saying you are wrong, only that I do not agree. If I HAD to choose between crosshairs or no crosshairs, it would be no crosshairs. I'm just hoping for good reasoning as to why it has to be one or the other.

My point exactly. Why permanently remove a feature simply to delay them? It will still get out there eventually, so it's not worth sacrificing anything to slow it; it's just delaying the inevitable.

If you are removing the entirety of the HUD, then it's a given the crosshairs go. But, whilst the HUD is still there, what makes the crosshair any more immersion-breaking than an ammo counter? or a hunger meter? They're all equally as viable for first choices. And as I've said a few times, when it's a case of multiple options, it's always best to try and compromise.

Yes, but should your personal preference dictate the options available to everyone? That's what I'm getting at. Like I said, my personal choice is no crosshairs, but that shouldn't be the be-all-end-all.

Well if it is still possible, I feel that they would do it eventually, then it'll just spread like hotcakes. And like you said, the improvement is extremely marginal, and personally I feel it won't improve performance enough to justify the complete removal of a feature many rely on. See rocket's quote.

I feel so far the only compelling argument made for removing them so far was by rocket himself, with regards to the ESP hacks.

You need to tell us details about the server. Otherwise, simply play on another server. It sucks, but it's not the end of the world, eh?

I believe it should stay. Even if it's off on public hives by default, there's literally no reason to give other players the ability to put it on their server should they so choose. Why please one or the other, when you could please both? Same goes for 3rd person, if you want your server to be ultra-realism, go right for it, disable every sort of "assist". But there's no reason not to allow people who disagree with that notion to change their settings. In short: Keep it, just disable it by default. P.S: I always play without crosshairs, on any game in which it gives me the option. My GMOD crosshair is even turned off. I like the fact that I can see and aim like I would in reality, and I feel that it's the best way to play. However, I don't feel that just because I think that, other players should be forced to do the same.

Defo gonna get the standalone on my wristwatch.

I doubt it was an intentional feature.