Obviously you didn't read the post. I never once complained about dying to game mechanics. I guarantee I have played more full loot PvP games than you have including but not limited to: Darkfall, Mortal Online, EvE Online as well as DayZ (I believe you can put it in that category). In my post, I expressed that every time I would die to a player or due to fault of my own I would get back up and go at it again. Happy as ever to try and correct my previous mistakes and improve at the game. I died many times to players as well as zombies and other game mechanics but not once was I discouraged, I had a blast doing it. The one and ONLY thing that has discouraged me and caused me to quit is Hackers. You go through so much sh*t just to survive the game mechanics, PvP, etc. (All of which I enjoy), and build up somewhat of a decent character only to have it taken away by something other than game mechanics (HACKERS). It really hurts the replayability of this game as well as overall enjoyment. Please don't come to me with your don't expect to die in a game like this as Sandbox Full Loot PvP Games are all I play and my bread and butter. I don't play CoD, BF, WoW or anything else along those lines. I play REAL games, with Risk Vs. Reward. And not once have I seen the amount of hackers this has. I do acknowledge it is a mod and not a standalone game, but still my reason stays the same for leaving. "QQ Hackers killed me before someone sniped me". - Obviously, unlike you I play this game very smart. I did so since the start as this is not my first walk in the park with games like this. As I stated before, Full Loot Sandbox Games are the only thing I play. My second character made it many days without dying and had very good items. I took many precautions including scouting for long periods with binocs before moving through new territory. Granted it's not 100% effective, but I didn't get sniped once in my time with the game and I always played on populated servers. So yes, us who play smart (unlike you according to your post), don't die every 5 minutes. -Twinturbo