chardwreck

Unfortunately it seems that the server admins have taken it upon themselves to set their own rules since it appears that Rocket and others aren't dinging the server admins for not following the UA. Not much you can do at this point. Oh and thesidetalker. The rules are the rules. And they are for everyone. You can get pissed all you want but if you don't like the rules then petition Rocket to change them or go private. If Rocket does change the rules on looting hacked gear then I'd be more than happy that I can change my sig.

Probably not but post it anyways.

Not against the rules to loot hacked in weapons.

Hanging out on US59 yesterday and this happened. Silly me thought that group channel was broadcast server wide when I was trying to warn everyone. Friday Sept. 20th. 7PM [uTC -8] I was playing under the name Darc.

Date/Time and Ingame name?

And he plays the last card in his hand.

Actually Rogue my signature is an effort to get Rocket to actually do something about it by purging the player database like they should have been doing from the start. But think whatever you want.

Hacked in weapons are on every public server out there. Having a hacked weapon isn't against the rules according to Rocket. But scripting them in is a no no. We have banned 30+ players for hacking in the last 2 days on US 843 (honey pots are still surprisingly effective). If you find a hacked weapon on the server it likely came from another server initially. Not to say we don't get our share of hackers but what server doesn't. But like I said. Having a hacked weapon isn't against the rules. It's the scripting that gets you in trouble.

Incorrect. It is not against the rules to use any weapon you have looted either from a corpse, tent or vehicle. If a server admin bans you just for having one then you have perfectly legitimate grounds to petition it and the server runs the risk of getting black listed.

Yeah because doing a Google search for Bosegelucke doesn't return a damn thing. Especially not ***.net on the first hit. LTG

You can use any weapon you find in a tent, spawn, vehicle etc...It's only against the rules if you script/hack it in yourself. If you need reassurance feel free to read the thread in my sig.

Apparently the big issue right now is with DayZ Navigator. They can see the location of every player, tent and vehicle on the map in nearly real time and it apparently isn't detected by BattleEye. At this rate I'm about done with public hives.

The funny part is Fatal was probably happy with just banning you from the server. Way to earn that Global there.

I love the hacker butt hurt in the game. Hack, get caught, post camp locations in retaliation.

wow. No wonder this guy got banned from the public hive.

http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/46844-hackers/#entry446536

What here in this list is "unlegit gear"? And still no log file.

Character location and inventory is not stored server side. It is stored on the public hive which they (Rocket and associated others) have direct access to. I believe even tents and vehicle inventory is stored on the hive as well (I could be wrong on this part but this is based on the admins inability to do a server wipe of tents and equipment). What this means is all they need is a simply monitoring script that runs through the database (or happens during specific events such as login, logout, inventory access of tents and vehicles) and removes any equipment that is not supposed to be there. While this doesn't directly address the hackers it does help protect innocent players from rampaging admins who think that just because you have a scripted in weapon you MUST be a hacker and deserve a ban. Which, is against the TOU according to Rocket himself.

"I find your lack of logs disturbing." You COULD clear the air with the community by just posting the log proof you say you have. Or you could sit there and look like a douchy douch face. B) Your call.

Yep and this is part of the problem. Rockets rule on hacked weapons is broken on so many levels. This with the 'eventually' time frame for ban petitions, real hacker reports and admin abuse reports means admins will continue to abuse and hackers will continue to hack. All Rocket has to do is run a monitoring script to check the player database for hacked gear and simply remove the weapons from the database and this whole issue with using hacked weapons would be moot. But in the mean time, admins are ignoring the rules they don't like (and I don't like myself) and players who are following the rules laid down by Rocket are paying the price. For the sake of transparency yes, I will use any weapon I find, hacked in or not, because it isn't against the rules. Liking the rules or not liking the rules is irrelevant. Like my signature says. Don't like it? Petition Rocket to change it and flush the database. It's a basic function of database maintenance and there is no excuse for not doing it.

Possessing hacked in weapons is not a banning offense.

Private Hive = Zero Justification to do whatever they want. Your lucky Cherno was bored enough to bother tossing his Wall-o-Text up here in the first place. TL;DR = Suck it Trebek.

No actually it is Rockets rule. Opinion has nothing to do with it.

And the banning server runs the risk of getting black listed. 99% of the hacked in weapons aren't any different, other than appearance, from the legit weapons already in the game. The TWS does push the envelope but is hardly a 'disruptive exploit' anymore than the DMR with NVGs is. As for petitioning Rocket to pay for the servers, it's the same old argument that is getting tired. If you host a server you agreed to the terms of use. I want the hackers and the hacked in gear gone as much as anyone but until Rocket decides to do something about it (rule change, database cleaning of hacked gear) just having a hacked in weapon is not a banning offense.

If a server bans/kicks you just for using a found weapon that was hacked in they are breaking the rules and can get black listed. http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/46844-hackers/#entry446536 In order for a server to ban you they must be able to provide proof that YOU were hacking. http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/46844-hackers/#entry446536 Yes I just posted the same link twice and I'll do it again too. http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/46844-hackers/#entry446536 Perhaps the server admins will get the hint. Using hacked in weapons is not against the rules. Hacking the weapons in is against the rules. Don't like it? Petition Rocket to change the rules and/or actually monitor the player database and remove the offending weapons from the database.