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By realistic levels, I am assuming you mean superior to handguns? Also, ballistic/projectile experts might design rifle rounds with smaller calibers due to the high velocity and aerodynamics for longer range shooting. Just a thought. Maybe. Don’t even know where to start with this one. You do know that caliber does not have a direct linear correlation with mass of the projectile right? I can get 200gr .40s&w rounds and 180gr .45acp rounds. Are you telling me that the store is selling me rounds that can’t exist? Also a few words for you, flash retardant. Also powder type and burn rates, especially in regards to barrel length. You do know that most firearms when fired (excluding crew served) have a spl in the range of 140-170 or so with the majority of them (and the majority of ammo) hovering around 160db (this is somewhat dependant on the testing methodology, however the majority of spl for various firearms will be roughly be similar)? Anyone else see the contradiction in the TARD LOGICtm here? (answer in black below) Equal action and reaction =/= but most of that force goes back into the gun Yes there will be equal forces acting upon the gun and shooter that was applied to the projectile, however you’re not factoring in the differences in masses of the two objects the forces are applied to. Also could it not be that aerodynamic drag increases with cross-sectional area? That tricky physics is just as hard as maths. Um . . . yeah. . . no . . . I’ve shot a lot of suppressed pistols and suppressed rifles. When properly configured and using subsonic ammo, they are indeed very quiet, and would not be heard several blocks down. Hell the suppressed 10.5 ar15 (firing subsonic) with integral can on the end was quieter than us talking at the outdoor range. I get it, someone sprinkled some crack on your gluestick eating habit. Now it makes sense. While they might break your ideal of the laws of physics, I think you and me/rest of the world have a different understanding of physics (or is it just a more accurate understanding?). Could be the reason why only Tards refer to suppressors as silencers. Me thinks there hath been too much counter strike and movies used as research. And please . . .Please for the love of god . . . make it stop!

Post was too long for one, had to split into two. They’re called silencers dude. I saw it in movies and stuff! I agree with your points, however, Effective range is 100m give or take. Tom Given’s has the right idea, imagine your local megamart, how long is the isle? If you had to take a shot, you better well have practiced and become proficient at shooting distance. 100m handgun shots are difficult but not impossible; just don’t try it with a crappy handgun. And shoot “minute of badguy”. And replaced so eloquently by the OP with TARD (aka GLUESTICK EATING) LOGICTM Continuing on. Hydrostatic trauma as the main wounding mechanism has been discredited and fallen out of favor with those more knowledgeable than just about all of us 10-20 years ago. While a lot of PD’s were still using federal hydrashock (that were designed on this principle, if you couldn’t guess from the name) rounds back in the 90’s, even then there was a lot of controversy on their effectiveness, and have since been replaced with rounds that give a benefit over standard ball (which hydrashock acts like a lot of the time). You do know that the dragunov round, the akm round and the FAL/DMR/M14 etc . . . are actually three different rounds right? This is as stupid as saying the new round I created that shoots a 7.62mm bullet but only has 2grs of powder behind it is the same thing. Same goes for the 5.56 nato variants and the AK74’s. No, no. TARD LOGIC TM is making much more sense than VIDEOGAME LOGIC TM. Please continue. 5.56 nato rounds were covered by Uncle_Scrotor. .45acp rounds were not the manstoppers you were thinking of. First off most would argue that the nickname manstopped would be more appropriate for the .44mag. Secondly this myth of manstopping abilities originates with the .45lc or long colt or colt, not the .45 acp. And just for you, and to be clear, .45lc =/=.45acp. AS50 cannot be upchambered to hold explosive rounds. WTF upchambered. AS50 like other nato .50bmg rifles can utilize ap,api rounds etc . . . There is no need to upchamber the rifle as they are still .50bmg rounds. By Manstopper I’m assuming you mean the .45acp. Pistol rounds suck at killing people, plain and simple. Pistols primarily exist for only a few reasons. 1: they are easy to conceal, and while suck at killing people are better than throwing puppies at someone. 2: to provide the ability to return fire while attempting to retrieve your long arm. 3: last ditch effort when you have expended all your long arm rounds. 4: in very tight quarters where a long arm would not be able to be utilized, think tunnel rats. .45acp just like other major defensive pistol rounds suck at killing people. They work primarily by punching small neat little holes and making the bad person spill their kool-aid. No pistol round can reliably incapacitate or kill a target in 1-2 shots. And yes before you comeback with TARD LOGICtm about shooting someone in the head, there have been many documented cases where the bullet strikes the cranial vault and circles around it instead of penetrating (happens even with rifles). There have also been many document cases where people have been shot multiple times and lived, as well as being shot once and dying, hence unreliable. If you go to any good firearms training (.mil, lapd swat instructors, FBI HRT instructors etc. . . ) they will say don’t shoot once or twice and assume it’s all good, shoot to neutralize the target (either through incapacitation or killing) with as many rounds as is needed, admin reload as needed while threat scanning, only then should you potentially move up on the downed hostile.