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Hello!

I was wondering if any of you have any experience in learning to play the piano using online sources?

I have recently bought an electric piano with the intention of learning to play, but have neither the time, nor the money to take actual lessons. I know basic music theory, and I play the guitar and trumpet at beginner-indermediate level, but have no experience with other instruments and a horrible sense of rythm to boot. I've been checking this guy out:

as I think he has a pleasent way of teaching, but I would love to hear from someone who've been down the same route, or just happen to know about the subject.

Thanks,

Max

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<hope this is not boring or seems dumb>

I found that it's good to get this stuff (below) very straight in your head, then everything falls into place.
These are the only simple & important <technical> questions that the Max Plank himself would want to understand, and they are straightforward. (and maybe you know already?) The keyboard is the classic instrument to SHOW theory and music as one.
 
Then learn to physically play  (dexterity)

So:
Why are there 12 notes  in an even-toned chromatic scale? (13 notes if you include the octave)
Why is it called even-toned [= "even tempered"]

Suss that out (it's simple plucked-string length, wavelength & harmonics science) and the rest is human physical.

Any .. EVERY .. musical Key is a subset of 8 semitones taken from the range of 12 semitones. There is only ONE chromatic scale.
Blues (African origin) uses the chromatic scale differently to Euro music, but the difference is very simple (and constant).

The black and white keys are just arranged that way so you know where you are on the keyboard. No other reason.
 
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Know those few things, and you SEE it when you look at the keyboard. Then any teacher who suites you will show you how to move forward..go with what you feel.

enjoy

(you're probably way ahead of me)

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Hello, long time no see ôô

I can recommend a couple of learning sites. There are many more out there but these two have helped me the most.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZlOvB5LcAgJv3wwvWFOFLg

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_DmCvOP5Q_eBMRDvqqRXjg

 

I believe the best way is to know which tunes you want to learn and then work on them, it takes time and effort, don't get ahead of yourself or get too complicated, take it easy. With your experience of guitar and trumpet the learning curve should be reduced somewhat.

I have just mastered (in my own fashion) Waltzing Matilda, beautiful on the ear and not so difficult to learn.

A couple more names that merit a mention are MangoldProject & PianoPig and for a bit of inspiration Chilly Gonzales.

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Thanks guys.

@Brokenbones, I'll definitely check out those links. I mainly want to learn to play some Tom Waits songs, especially "The Piano has been drinking" and "Invitation to the Blues".

I really need to add at least +5 to my dexterity though, as them fat li'l stubbies won't do how I tells them to.

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2 hours ago, Max Planck said:

I really need to add at least +5 to my dexterity though, as them fat li'l stubbies won't do how I tells them to.

Watch any video of Thelonious Monk playing..  it can be proved that NOBODY can play like that, he does it ALL WRONG. (his big hands are flat on the keys half the time, for starters, and he plays 2- or three - notes at once with one ugly  finger sideways.. and .. nah, it will never work.. play like that in front of a serious tutor & you'll get your knuckles rapped with a ruler .. thrown out of the academy? )
Watch and take heart - you can see some of his bad illegal moves in this vid

you'll know a man can fly

                    it's a kind of demo that you CAN do what you feel..

 

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~ if what you play starts feeling good to you.. OK+
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Ah Tom Waits, you are gonna need your #'s, he is one of my prefered artists of all time, you should also check out the film Down by Law for good measure.

You must think, head, piano and then fat stubies, not in the reverse order, I sometimes close my eyes and it all flows out better than if I'm looking at the keyboard.

Takes time but if every session you note some progression then you are winning.

Never found much on The Piano Has Been Drinking (apart from personal experience !

But...

Another chap that does little how to's, sweet & simple...

Also...

Tom Traubert's Blues (aka Waltzing Matilda) but with the very Tom Waits touch...

 

Here is another guy worth following, he does an excellent version of Waltzing (Tom Traubert's Blues) unfortunately the sheet music is not available.

 

Also note that Freddy Mercury was an excellent musician / pianist...

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Thanks for the links. Something about Waltzing Mathilda rubs me the wrong way though, like a rash on the inner ear. Might have been caused by over exposure.

And Freddy Mercury was an excellent everything.

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(8 lessons ? )

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and looking around I also noticed someone else putting the moves together ..  get this far & you see how other players bring it together and make something, thread a melody through that ..
( ps - good thing about blues is you can sing it in any voice you have .. and you will feel some vocals coming on .. you don't need "a voice" at all , you just need your own self and the blues.  Hendrix was always embarrassed that he couldn't sing )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDMQEExCO7

Without blues semitone notes, in straight 'European' semitones instead = the traditional European Keys - the tunes are Euro/Irish/American Country and Western/Ballads .. i.e.  verse/ chorus..  = Tom Waits.. Peter Gabriel.. (all those people)..
Tom Waits cant sing either.. and it's not like anyone cares..

for "euro" (non-blues) ballads & songs this is one place to start making out the shapes ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf68y-uRXGQ

- anything from The Who to Dionne Warwick, ZZ Top, the Pogues, whoever   .. it's ALL euro/irish/american ballads (4 - 5 chords major/minor) & 3 chord euro/american rock ..
If you dont like a chord progression that starts in G, then write it on a bit of paper and convert it to C (or any progression you already know - and ain't too high or low for your voice or your band?)... Watch Keith Richards live on stage [eh.. back in the old days].. he just moves his capo up or down for each song and plays the same chords as last time... pretty much saves on your muscles.

ballads - we've been playing them for 1000 years .
Do good

 

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Not quite there yet. I can do that freaky thing with my hand though.

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