THEGordonFreeman

Seems like it's still working as intended. And judging from BI's changelog for 1.15... it will continue to work as expected. I would suggest to anyone thinking about buying this game to consider the continued current state of vehicles and the amount (or lack thereof) attention they have been given them over the years.

I see no mention of vehicle physics, when will that be a priority?

I didn't stutter.

Working as intended......

@DefectiveWater Good thing you removed that part about telling me what to do. Nobody enjoys antagnostic asses. And I never said it was an exploit, i said it was a shady mechanic, and it is. No matter the justification, it is abused by PvPers consistently. If it's no problem for you. feel free to move on. I am simply informing players that it is being abused.

You're almost there, William. There are many popular servers out there that DON'T state they have P.A. enabled. There's nothing that tells the player if it's being used or not. Just the server admin's and their "friends" know it, UNLESS they spill it out in a recurring message, or something like Server Panel mod. But I know factually there are several popular servers that DO NOT SPELL that out for players. And the only way, you could know it is if you pay close attention to the queue numbers as you sit and wait. If you get pushed back, they are using P.A. It's a very shady mechanic, and whatever the "reasons" for it's existence, those that PvP know what advantages it brings on those servers and they use it. BI acting like it's no big deal does not change the fact that it is used and abused and players should KNOW about and determine if they want to be disadvantaged on a server or not. Seriously, are you not listening? Unless the admin states it being used on the server, then PLAYERS DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEING USED. There is nothing to tell them it's in use. That's why I say watch the queue, if you get pushed back in line, they are using priority access. They know how it's used and abused, but they get paid so they don't put a disclaimer out there.

I haven't played on a server with P.A. for years, but most players are oblivious to the advantages given to those who pay for P.A. and that's why I am using this forum to make sure they know they are at a disadvantage playing on those servers.

Yeah, this is balanced so well.

Planned restarts are META, and as an experienced PvP Player, I will use ANYTHING to get an advantage on another player, including restarts. My choice on an impending restart is simple, if we are down to the last minute and my opponent quits firing at me, it's time to push, chances are he is sitting down waiting on that 15 second timer for his body to disappear from the server, he is DEAD MEAT. Or if I know I am against a seasoned player, I may choose to stop firing in that last 60 seconds before the server restarts to allow my opponent to push me, I simply turn the volume up on my headphones and listen for those footsteps and pre-fire as necessary. That's what a planned restart gets you. It's super meta, but it's used to gain an advantage, just like P.A. I have won more fights than I have lost at restarts by utilizing that strategy, but many times you get lost in the moment of trying to stay alive all the way until the server boots you. And the enemy can use the same strategy prior to restart, so it's FAIR. P.A. is not fair. It's not my responsibility to say "OOOOHHHH! Here comes a restart, better go hide because it's possible the enemy can have P.A. of which I can't do anything about....," while the enemy is on my ass or I know they know about where I am located. That's the same thing players that subscribe to P.A. do, they pay for the advantage to get into the server before others so they can spot players FIRST. That is the truth, and nothing more. I've been running servers and taking donations from players without ever using P.A. for years. P.A. removes the ability to counter the opposing player's knowledge of your whereabouts, but what do I know, it's just an edge case anyway, like vehicles, I guess. Sounds like they are treating the flying vehicle issue with the same love and care as P.A. Cars flying? Nothing to see here, it's just an edge case... move along.

So your answer is you should pay attention to the server restart time while in PvP. And if it happens it's an edge case and it's very unlikely you will know if the player that killed you was actually a priority queue player. I like how make one very narrow argument to support a position that it's an edge case. What is the purpose of Priority Queue? Why does it exist? What's its INTENDED function?

Meanwhile, on console....

I like that qualifier "gameplay cannot be affected is a player is not on the server." So if you are in PvP, and a restart happens, and those you were PvPing have Priority Access and push ahead of you in the queue to get a better location on you or away from you while you sit in queue DEFINTELY gives those with P.A. A HUGE ADVANTAGE. It happens, it's happened to me and it happens to others regularly on some of the biggest servers out there. By getting that advantage, I would argue, P.A. has the real consequence of changing gameplay as it delivers an advantage to those that have it over those that don't if they are in a PvP fight. I'd gladly like to hear an argument that P.A. does not provide an advantage as it is currently implemented. How does the other player, with no P.A., overcome tactically being killed from behind when they EVENTUALLY get back in, as the enemy has had the opportunity (because they paid for it) to get behind them and kill them while they are logging in? Priority Access disenfranchises players that don't have it.

If Bohemia enforced it's monetization rules appropriately, I doubt there would be more than several hundred or so of community servers available. Many servers SELL priority Queue, which DOES affect gameplay, and DOES disenfranchise players waiting in the queue. If you've ever sat in a server and wonder why your queue number goes backwards, it's because you were moved back so a priority queue member could get in front of you. Whether they paid for it or not... who knows unless they explicitly state it.

Any server that offers players ANY type of advantage is trash. And yes, I would say if they pay to be put in the front of the line in the queue, that is also an advantage. People should donate to the server if they like it and want to see it continued to be updated, that is it, period. Any server that offers any of that crap is giving certain players an advantage... those servers should be avoided like the zombie plague. Many will disagree with me on the queue thing, but everyone should have the same shot, whether they donate to a server or not. Some will say, why donate, if you can't play? Then make the server private only donator's play on that server, now THAT is fine, but if it's open to the puiblic and only certain people get priority, that is crap because that means another player or players got bumped so you could play, we call that cutting in line, and whether you payed the bouncer checking people into the club or not, it's very dickish, reagrdless if some think it's acceptable because Bohemia allows it.

That video deserves awards as it is something I have been asking for a looong time as well. What exactly is Battleye good for? As prevalent as hackers are on official, one would think BI could get a handle on it. But then one also thinks about dwindling sales and how banning hackers also means more copies are sold as the ban waves hit. The problem with this game has always been ESP. If ESP could be negated for those other than server admins, 90% of hacking/scripting would go away.

Off topic, but this is also a major problem on official....

Have you played this game? I'm actually not salty at all. I have over 10,000 hours in this game and I run two servers and a gaming community founded around playing DayZ. I want the game to get better, but I also want the developer to fix the BIG ISSUES. And furthermore, I want prospective new players to know what they are getting into before purchasing the game. I said I guarantee it because I have witnessed it personally. I don't talk shit or BS. If you don't like what is said here feel free to put me on ignore.

There's NOTHING real about the physics in this game including the bullets. What in in the world are you talking about. I guarantee someone could shoot some else in the head with an FNX45 pistol at 5 meters and they would be graveyard dead, yet in DayZ, it's survivable. "If the physics were real in this game, the vehicle would be staying in that ditch." And my point is the physics are not real and are not really designed to be. But vehicle physics are even worse because of a bad decision by the development team... PERIOD. Even if you couldn't get that Olga out of the ditch, I doubt very highly you would pass out as many times as that guy did while sitting still because someone through a door onto it. I suppose that happens in real life as well.

You missed the point entirely about this video. Look what the players are doing to get the car out of a ditch that even a little girl's battery operated barbie jeep could get out of. What they are doing is dumb as hell, and shows just how silly car physics are. This has zero to do with server performance. The implementation of the car physics is just crap. Not to mention the fact the player gets knocked out when the car barely moves. It's so dumb. There's nothing miraculous about getting out of a ditch for a sedan like the Olga. If the banks were steeper... maybe, but this is a great example of why DayZ's car physics are crap other than just the flying into the stratosphere.

So these guys were just trying to follow WOBO's advice on getting a car unstuck. Look at how ridiculous this is. Does this really seem like an enjoyable player experience with vehicles? Taking the doors, trunk and hood off, throwing them on the vehicle to get it unstuck? What's so sad is that instead of building the car physic's correctly from the beginning, THIS IS WHAT PLAYER'S RESORT TO try and keep the game fluid for them. It's a very sad commentary on the current state of vehicles. Does it make any sense that a guy sitting in the vehicle gets knocked out several times basically sitting still?

Maybe there is some method to this madness that we all have never thought of.... maybe, the devs just love to enact Karma onto the players. Take this guy.... seems he just wants to run over a player, and of course, the INEVITABLE happens....

Can't EVEN DRIVE SLOW and not get screwed

And you have toxic zones, but no vehicles stable enough to carry away all that sweet toxic loot...

Driving PERIOD, on a clean server on an I7 processor with no mods and only 1 player, Gigabit connection to Internet, you will have vehicle issues, that is a fact. Lag is only part of the problem.

Well as being both a player and server owner, it is true.